Re: DIS: Re: [Proto] Justice for All

2021-01-20 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 9:05 AM Falsifian via agora-discussion
 wrote:
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> >   The Referee is by default the investigator for all Finger
> >   Pointing. When the Referee's Finger is Pointed or the Referee
> >   is the perp, the Arbitor is the investigator.
> >
> >   The Referee CANNOT Point eir Finger at the Arbitor, and the Arbitor
> >   CANNOT point eir finger the Referee.
>
> "eir finger the Referee"

Fixed.

> >   A high crime is any crime specified as being class 4 or greater.
> >   The Referee CANNOT levy the Cold Hand of Justice to punish a high crime,
> >   notwithstanding the other provisions of this rule.
>
> Other than that, looks good, except I don't think I'm ever going to get
> used to the backward meaning of the word "notwithstanding".

You're right, it's weird as all hell, even if it works. Also fixed.

Thanks for the comments!

-Aris


Re: DIS: Re: [Proto] Justice for All

2021-01-20 Thread Falsifian via agora-discussion
>   The Referee is by default the investigator for all Finger
>   Pointing. When the Referee's Finger is Pointed or the Referee
>   is the perp, the Arbitor is the investigator.
> 
>   The Referee CANNOT Point eir Finger at the Arbitor, and the Arbitor
>   CANNOT point eir finger the Referee.

"eir finger the Referee"

>   A high crime is any crime specified as being class 4 or greater.
>   The Referee CANNOT levy the Cold Hand of Justice to punish a high crime,
>   notwithstanding the other provisions of this rule.

Other than that, looks good, except I don't think I'm ever going to get
used to the backward meaning of the word "notwithstanding".

-- 
Falsifian


DIS: Re: [Proto] Justice for All

2021-01-19 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 9:51 PM Aris Merchant
 wrote:
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> Here's a proto to get rid of Summary Judgement and tweak the finger
> pointing rules to match. There's a longer comment in the proto itself.
>
> -Aris
>
> ---
> Title: Justice for All
> Adoption index: 1.7
> Author: Aris
> Co-authors:


Here's a new proto. The only real difference is that I've restored the
provisions that stopped anyone from ever ending up as a judge in their
own case.

-Aris

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Title: Justice for All
Adoption index: 1.7
Author: Aris
Co-authors: G., Jason

[This is OP and was only used twice in the whole of last year. We could
reform it so that the Referee could only use it for just reasons,
but honestly I don't think that's a priority — this feels like
a waste of space on something that's dangerous and almost unused.]

Repeal Rule 2479, "Official Injustice".

Amend Rule 2478, "Vigilante Justice", by replacing:

  The Referee is by default the investigator for all Finger
  Pointing. If the Referee is the perp, then the Arbitor CAN
  become the investigator of that Finger Pointing by announcement.

  The Referee CANNOT Point eir Finger. The Arbitor CANNOT Point eir
  Finger at the Referee. A high crime is any crime specified as
  being class 4 or greater. The Referee CANNOT levy the Cold Hand of
  Justice to punish a high crime, notwithstanding Rule 2478.

with:

  The Referee is by default the investigator for all Finger
  Pointing. When the Referee's Finger is Pointed or the Referee
  is the perp, the Arbitor is the investigator.

  The Referee CANNOT Point eir Finger at the Arbitor, and the Arbitor
  CANNOT point eir finger the Referee.

  A high crime is any crime specified as being class 4 or greater.
  The Referee CANNOT levy the Cold Hand of Justice to punish a high crime,
  notwithstanding the other provisions of this rule.