Re: DIS: Re: BUS: @Promotor [proposal] Getting Stoned

2021-08-24 Thread Sarah S. via agora-discussion
On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 11:32 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:

>
> On 8/24/2021 1:52 AM, Sarah S. via agora-business wrote:
> > - Hot Potato Stone (Weekly, 100%): You must transfer this stone to a
> player
> > of your choice
> > who has never owned this stone since the last time agora has owned it.
> Then
> > the original wielder gains 8 boatloads of coins.
> > SPECIAL RULE: Other rules notwithstanding, this stone never escapes as
> long
> > as at least three players have owned it in the last Agoran month
>
> The link between wielding and "must transfer" is really unclear.  It's not
> clear that the transfer is "wielding" or that there ever is an "original
> wielder".  This could be the first person who ever wields it?
>
> There's also no time limit on the must, and there's nothing stopping you
> from transferring it to someone who doesn't meet the criterion.
>
> -G.
>

The must transfer seems to be clearly on wielding, as all of the stones are
formatted that  way, with the wielding effect directly after the colon.

True enough on the part about must transfer, but the stone clearly says
that the original wielder only gets the coins "then", aka after the stone
is transferred. So there's no benefit in wielding and not transferring it -
you can keep the stone for the whole month but obviously it will be
collected.

Overall I think these objections are meritless, although it could have been
clearer. Proposal can be passed as is imo.
--
R. Lee


DIS: Re: BUS: @Promotor [proposal] Getting Stoned

2021-08-24 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion


On 8/24/2021 1:52 AM, Sarah S. via agora-business wrote:
> - Hot Potato Stone (Weekly, 100%): You must transfer this stone to a player
> of your choice
> who has never owned this stone since the last time agora has owned it. Then
> the original wielder gains 8 boatloads of coins.
> SPECIAL RULE: Other rules notwithstanding, this stone never escapes as long
> as at least three players have owned it in the last Agoran month

The link between wielding and "must transfer" is really unclear.  It's not
clear that the transfer is "wielding" or that there ever is an "original
wielder".  This could be the first person who ever wields it?

There's also no time limit on the must, and there's nothing stopping you
from transferring it to someone who doesn't meet the criterion.

-G.