Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [ADoP] Initiating Elections Again (Referee, ADoP, Registrar)

[Publius Scribonius Scholasticus]

Sorry about this, my email reader displayed things in a weird order.

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
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> On Jun 2, 2017, at 6:40 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus 
>  wrote:
> 
> Still NttPF.
> 
> Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
> p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 1, 2017, at 9:44 PM, Owen Jacobson  wrote:
>> 
>> I vote as follows:
>>> I initiate an election for Referee, as there has been no election since the
>>> last win. I initiate the Agoran decision to determine the new Referee. For
>>> this decision, the vote collector is the ADoP and the valid options are the
>>> players (PRESENT is also a valid vote).
>> o.
>>> I initiate an election for Associate Director of Personnel, as there has
>>> been no election since the last win. I initiate the Agoran decision to
>>> determine the new Associate Director of Personnel. For this decision, the
>>> vote collector is the ADoP and the valid options are the players
>>> (PRESENT is also a valid vote).
>> nichdel.
>>> I initiate an election for Registrar, as there has been no election since 
>>> the
>>> last win. I initiate the Agoran decision to determine the new Registrar. For
>>> this decision, the vote collector is the ADoP and the valid options are the
>>> players (PRESENT is also a valid vote).
>> Quazie, followed by Publius Scribonius Scholasticus.
>> 
>> -o
>> 
> 

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [ADoP] Initiating Elections Again (Referee, ADoP, Registrar)

[Publius Scribonius Scholasticus]

Still NttPF.

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com



> On Jun 1, 2017, at 9:44 PM, Owen Jacobson  wrote:
> 
> I vote as follows:
>> I initiate an election for Referee, as there has been no election since the
>> last win. I initiate the Agoran decision to determine the new Referee. For
>> this decision, the vote collector is the ADoP and the valid options are the
>> players (PRESENT is also a valid vote).
> o.
>> I initiate an election for Associate Director of Personnel, as there has
>> been no election since the last win. I initiate the Agoran decision to
>> determine the new Associate Director of Personnel. For this decision, the
>> vote collector is the ADoP and the valid options are the players
>> (PRESENT is also a valid vote).
> nichdel.
>> I initiate an election for Registrar, as there has been no election since the
>> last win. I initiate the Agoran decision to determine the new Registrar. For
>> this decision, the vote collector is the ADoP and the valid options are the
>> players (PRESENT is also a valid vote).
> Quazie, followed by Publius Scribonius Scholasticus.
> 
> -o
> 

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [ADoP] Initiating Elections Again (Referee, ADoP, Registrar)

[Owen Jacobson]

> On Jun 1, 2017, at 9:56 PM, Aris Merchant 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 6:45 PM Owen Jacobson  > wrote:
> I vote as follows:
> > I initiate an election for Referee, as there has been no election since the
> > last win. I initiate the Agoran decision to determine the new Referee. For
> > this decision, the vote collector is the ADoP and the valid options are the
> > players (PRESENT is also a valid vote).
> o.
> > I initiate an election for Associate Director of Personnel, as there has
> > been no election since the last win. I initiate the Agoran decision to
> > determine the new Associate Director of Personnel. For this decision, the
> > vote collector is the ADoP and the valid options are the players
> > (PRESENT is also a valid vote).
> nichdel.
> > I initiate an election for Registrar, as there has been no election since 
> > the
> > last win. I initiate the Agoran decision to determine the new Registrar. For
> > this decision, the vote collector is the ADoP and the valid options are the
> > players (PRESENT is also a valid vote).
> Quazie, followed by Publius Scribonius Scholasticus.
> 
> -o
> 
> NttPF. Also, nichdel deregistered.

You can tell that I’m reading this oldest-first and responding as I go.

And also,

Holy moly. What _happened_?

-o




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Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [ADoP] Initiating Elections Again (Referee, ADoP, Registrar)

[Aris Merchant]

In that case, this bit of Rule 2154 (Election Procedure) applies:
"Upon the resolution of this decision, its outcome, if a player, is
installed into office, and the election ends."

-Aris

On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 6:59 PM Quazie  wrote:
>
> G. Noted this in eir CFJ about the victory election, but: I am uncertain if 
> the valid options can change once voting begins.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [ADoP] Initiating Elections Again (Referee, ADoP, Registrar)

[Quazie]

G. Noted this in eir CFJ about the victory election, but: I am uncertain if
the valid options can change once voting begins.
On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 18:58 Aris Merchant <
thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 6:47 PM Quazie  wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 18:44 Owen Jacobson  wrote:
>>
>>> I vote as follows:
>>
>>
>>> > I initiate an election for Associate Director of Personnel, as there
>>> has
>>> > been no election since the last win. I initiate the Agoran decision to
>>> > determine the new Associate Director of Personnel. For this decision,
>>> the
>>> > vote collector is the ADoP and the valid options are the players
>>> > (PRESENT is also a valid vote).
>>> nichdel.
>>
>>
>> Given that nichdel deregistered - I wonder what would happen if e won?
>>
>>> E couldn't. It isn't a valid ballot. Note that "the valid options are
> the players".
>
> -Aris
>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [ADoP] Initiating Elections Again (Referee, ADoP, Registrar)

[Aris Merchant]

On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 6:47 PM Quazie  wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 18:44 Owen Jacobson  wrote:
>
>> I vote as follows:
>
>
>> > I initiate an election for Associate Director of Personnel, as there has
>> > been no election since the last win. I initiate the Agoran decision to
>> > determine the new Associate Director of Personnel. For this decision,
>> the
>> > vote collector is the ADoP and the valid options are the players
>> > (PRESENT is also a valid vote).
>> nichdel.
>
>
> Given that nichdel deregistered - I wonder what would happen if e won?
>
>> E couldn't. It isn't a valid ballot. Note that "the valid options are the
players".

-Aris

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [ADoP] Initiating Elections Again (Referee, ADoP, Registrar)

[Aris Merchant]

On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 6:45 PM Owen Jacobson  wrote:

> I vote as follows:
> > I initiate an election for Referee, as there has been no election since
> the
> > last win. I initiate the Agoran decision to determine the new Referee.
> For
> > this decision, the vote collector is the ADoP and the valid options are
> the
> > players (PRESENT is also a valid vote).
> o.
> > I initiate an election for Associate Director of Personnel, as there has
> > been no election since the last win. I initiate the Agoran decision to
> > determine the new Associate Director of Personnel. For this decision, the
> > vote collector is the ADoP and the valid options are the players
> > (PRESENT is also a valid vote).
> nichdel.
> > I initiate an election for Registrar, as there has been no election
> since the
> > last win. I initiate the Agoran decision to determine the new Registrar.
> For
> > this decision, the vote collector is the ADoP and the valid options are
> the
> > players (PRESENT is also a valid vote).
> Quazie, followed by Publius Scribonius Scholasticus.
>
> -o
>
> NttPF. Also, nichdel deregistered.

-Aris

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [ADoP] Initiating Elections Again (Referee, ADoP, Registrar)

[Quazie]

On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 18:44 Owen Jacobson  wrote:

> I vote as follows:
> > I initiate an election for Associate Director of Personnel, as there has
> > been no election since the last win. I initiate the Agoran decision to
> > determine the new Associate Director of Personnel. For this decision, the
> > vote collector is the ADoP and the valid options are the players
> > (PRESENT is also a valid vote).
> nichdel.


Given that nichdel deregistered - I wonder what would happen if e won?

>

DIS: Re: BUS: [ADoP] Initiating Elections Again (Referee, ADoP, Registrar)

[Owen Jacobson]

I vote as follows:
> I initiate an election for Referee, as there has been no election since the
> last win. I initiate the Agoran decision to determine the new Referee. For
> this decision, the vote collector is the ADoP and the valid options are the
> players (PRESENT is also a valid vote).
o.
> I initiate an election for Associate Director of Personnel, as there has
> been no election since the last win. I initiate the Agoran decision to
> determine the new Associate Director of Personnel. For this decision, the
> vote collector is the ADoP and the valid options are the players
> (PRESENT is also a valid vote).
nichdel.
> I initiate an election for Registrar, as there has been no election since the
> last win. I initiate the Agoran decision to determine the new Registrar. For
> this decision, the vote collector is the ADoP and the valid options are the
> players (PRESENT is also a valid vote).
Quazie, followed by Publius Scribonius Scholasticus.

-o



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Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [ADoP] Initiating Elections Again (Referee, ADoP, Registrar)

[Josh T]

If the incumbent thinks that someone else is better suited for the job, I
think they have the experience to make that decision.

天火狐

On 27 May 2017 at 21:43, Ørjan Johansen  wrote:

> On Sun, 28 May 2017, Aris Merchant wrote:
>
> On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 6:13 PM Ørjan Johansen  wrote:
>>
>> I have recently started wondering if all the new players using "endorse"
>>> know what it customarily means in Agora.  Especially since the term is no
>>> longer defined in the Rules.  (Although one rule still _uses_ the term.)
>>>
>>
>> It's defined by rule 2127.
>>
>
> Oh duh, I searched for "endorse", missing "endorsing".
>
> Greetings,
> Ørjan.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [ADoP] Initiating Elections Again (Referee, ADoP, Registrar)

[Ørjan Johansen]

On Sun, 28 May 2017, Aris Merchant wrote:


On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 6:13 PM Ørjan Johansen  wrote:


I have recently started wondering if all the new players using "endorse"
know what it customarily means in Agora.  Especially since the term is no
longer defined in the Rules.  (Although one rule still _uses_ the term.)


It's defined by rule 2127.


Oh duh, I searched for "endorse", missing "endorsing".

Greetings,
Ørjan.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [ADoP] Initiating Elections Again (Referee, ADoP, Registrar)

[Aris Merchant]

On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 6:13 PM Ørjan Johansen  wrote:

> On Sat, 27 May 2017, Josh T wrote:
>
> > For all elections which the voting period has yet to close, I endorse the
> > incumbent, if any; should the office be vacant, I vote PRESENT.
>
> I have recently started wondering if all the new players using "endorse"
> know what it customarily means in Agora.  Especially since the term is no
> longer defined in the Rules.  (Although one rule still _uses_ the term.)


It's defined by rule 2127.

-Aris

>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [ADoP] Initiating Elections Again (Referee, ADoP, Registrar)

[Publius Scribonius Scholasticus]

I know what endorse means, but I don't know about others.


Publius Scribonius Scholasticus

On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 9:12 PM, Ørjan Johansen  wrote:

> On Sat, 27 May 2017, Josh T wrote:
>
> For all elections which the voting period has yet to close, I endorse the
>> incumbent, if any; should the office be vacant, I vote PRESENT.
>>
>
> I have recently started wondering if all the new players using "endorse"
> know what it customarily means in Agora.  Especially since the term is no
> longer defined in the Rules.  (Although one rule still _uses_ the term.)
>
> (Hint: It does _not_ necessarily mean to vote for that player.)
>
> Greetings,
> Ørjan.

DIS: Re: BUS: [ADoP] Initiating Elections Again (Referee, ADoP, Registrar)

[Ørjan Johansen]

On Sat, 27 May 2017, Josh T wrote:


For all elections which the voting period has yet to close, I endorse the
incumbent, if any; should the office be vacant, I vote PRESENT.


I have recently started wondering if all the new players using "endorse" 
know what it customarily means in Agora.  Especially since the term is no 
longer defined in the Rules.  (Although one rule still _uses_ the term.)


(Hint: It does _not_ necessarily mean to vote for that player.)

Greetings,
Ørjan.