DIS: Re: BUS: Banking/farming
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 5:15 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: > If any of the above harvesting actions failed, I do those actions > again using Xs where needed. This isn't necessary; X crop usage is now implied if necessary.
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Banking/Farming
On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 3:15 AM, Roger Hicks wrote: > The PBA didn't have a 4 crop, but I'm considering your harvesting of > 2314 a success as 231X - so the above conditional action fails. He specified exact crops of X314... -- Taral "Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you." -- Unknown
DIS: Re: BUS: Banking/Farming
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 15:19, Charles Reiss wrote: > I PBA-withdraw an 8 crop. > > On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 14:09, Charles Reiss wrote: > [snip] >> I harvest 2314 (using X314; recent CFJ number) for 2 WRV. > > If the above failed (likely due to the PBA not having a 4 crop for me > to withdraw), I harvest 2318 (using X318; recent CFJ number) for 2 > WRV. > The PBA didn't have a 4 crop, but I'm considering your harvesting of 2314 a success as 231X - so the above conditional action fails. BobTHJ
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Banking, farming
On 29 Oct 2008, at 20:48, Roger Hicks wrote: ehird, you missed this Thanks. -- ehird
DIS: Re: BUS: Banking, farming
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 06:43, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I PBA-withdraw as many 1 crops as I can (I think nine for ^117). > ehird, you missed this BobTHJ
DIS: Re: BUS: Banking/Farming
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 15:52, Charles Reiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I PBA-withdraw 2 4 crop. > I PBA-withdraw 2 7 crops. I missed these, and therefore goofed up this transaction. > > I mill 4 * 8 = X. > > I mill 4 / 7 = X. > > I mill 4 / 7 = X. > > I mill 3 - 4 = X. > > I mill 3 + 7 = X. So this last milling would have succeeded then. However, your later attempt to fix my error by milling again then fails because your mill is In Production. BobTHJ
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Banking/Farming
On 27 Oct 2008, at 19:54, Roger Hicks wrote: comex seems to have way too many coins after buying all eir assets back (1468?). Since Warrigal potentially deposited as many as 23 VP in the PBA (a transaction that is missing from your report) prior to comex's withdrawing as many as possible, it is possible comex may have withdrawn more than 7. I also have discrepancies as to the number of crops owned by the PBA for 4, 6, and 9 crops. Since I haven't published an AAA report yet for you I'll try and work these out. In addition, the RBOA should still have only 260 coins. We differ by an amount of 168...you say ais523 deposited 719 coins in the bank across the various "bank run" scam messages, but I only show 551 coins. IMHO, we need to work everything out so asset holdings are in agreement for all contracts and then ratify it all. I also don't think it works well to have multiple recordkeepers for contracts whose currencies are traded around a bit. Perhaps we should amend all the contracts to make the Accountor be the recordkeepor. If we did so I would be happy to write automation to keep track of all the various transactions that occur. Please see my recent a-d thread. I f*cked up. Majorly. -- ehird
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On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 12:41, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Processed, new proto-PBA report online. Is it correct? Does the RBoA still > have too > many coins? is the comex stuff right? > comex seems to have way too many coins after buying all eir assets back (1468?). Since Warrigal potentially deposited as many as 23 VP in the PBA (a transaction that is missing from your report) prior to comex's withdrawing as many as possible, it is possible comex may have withdrawn more than 7. I also have discrepancies as to the number of crops owned by the PBA for 4, 6, and 9 crops. Since I haven't published an AAA report yet for you I'll try and work these out. In addition, the RBOA should still have only 260 coins. We differ by an amount of 168...you say ais523 deposited 719 coins in the bank across the various "bank run" scam messages, but I only show 551 coins. IMHO, we need to work everything out so asset holdings are in agreement for all contracts and then ratify it all. I also don't think it works well to have multiple recordkeepers for contracts whose currencies are traded around a bit. Perhaps we should amend all the contracts to make the Accountor be the recordkeepor. If we did so I would be happy to write automation to keep track of all the various transactions that occur. BobTHJ
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Banking/Farming
On 27 Oct 2008, at 18:26, Roger Hicks wrote: On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 12:23, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 22 Oct 2008, at 23:40, Ian Kelly wrote: I withdrew ^250 from the RBoA, withdrew 2 1-crops for ^23, withdrew 6 VP for ^63, deposited several note credits for ^168, withdrew 2 5-crops for ^39, withdrew 7 1-crops for ^112, and finally withdrew a 2-crop for ^27. That adds up to ^154. BobTHJ... this was posted to a-d, it's a clarification of previous actions. Oops...you are right. However, e got the number of 250 coins because that's as many as e could afford to withdraw at that point. BobTHJ Processed, new proto-PBA report online. Is it correct? Does the RBoA still have too many coins? is the comex stuff right? -- ehird
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Banking/Farming
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 12:23, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 22 Oct 2008, at 23:40, Ian Kelly wrote: > >> I withdrew ^250 from the RBoA, withdrew 2 1-crops for ^23, withdrew 6 >> VP for ^63, deposited several note credits for ^168, withdrew 2 >> 5-crops for ^39, withdrew 7 1-crops for ^112, and finally withdrew a >> 2-crop for ^27. That adds up to ^154. > > > BobTHJ... this was posted to a-d, it's a clarification of previous actions. > Oops...you are right. However, e got the number of 250 coins because that's as many as e could afford to withdraw at that point. BobTHJ
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Banking/Farming
On 22 Oct 2008, at 23:40, Ian Kelly wrote: I withdrew ^250 from the RBoA, withdrew 2 1-crops for ^23, withdrew 6 VP for ^63, deposited several note credits for ^168, withdrew 2 5-crops for ^39, withdrew 7 1-crops for ^112, and finally withdrew a 2-crop for ^27. That adds up to ^154. BobTHJ... this was posted to a-d, it's a clarification of previous actions. -- ehird
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On 27 Oct 2008, at 18:17, Roger Hicks wrote: ehird, this is the message of root's I am referring to. OK. Will process On 27 Oct 2008, at 01:34, warrigal wrote: I do this 30 times: if I have more than 50 VP, I deposit 1 VP for at least 15 coins. bobthj, please tell me how many vp warrigal had before this transaction. -- ehird
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Banking/Farming
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 16:40, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I withdrew ^250 from the RBoA, withdrew 2 1-crops for ^23, withdrew 6 > VP for ^63, deposited several note credits for ^168, withdrew 2 > 5-crops for ^39, withdrew 7 1-crops for ^112, and finally withdrew a > 2-crop for ^27. That adds up to ^154. > ehird, this is the message of root's I am referring to. BobTHJ
DIS: Re: BUS: Banking/Farming
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 15:52, Charles Reiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I mill 4 * 8 = X. > > I mill 4 / 7 = X. > > I mill 4 / 7 = X. > > I mill 3 - 4 = X. > > I mill 3 + 7 = X. > The last of these fails as you are short a 7 crop. BobTHJ
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Banking/Farming
On 22 Oct 2008, at 23:40, Ian Kelly wrote: I withdrew ^250 from the RBoA, withdrew 2 1-crops for ^23, withdrew 6 VP for ^63, deposited several note credits for ^168, withdrew 2 5-crops for ^39, withdrew 7 1-crops for ^112, and finally withdrew a 2-crop for ^27. That adds up to ^154. Hmm, ok then. fixed. -- ehird
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On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 4:33 PM, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 22 Oct 2008, at 23:21, Ian Kelly wrote: > >> I PBA-withdraw a 2 crop for 27 coins (and could somebody verify that >> my coin holdings are now 153? the web report claims I only have 93 >> before this transaction). > > > Why would you have that many? > > You now have ^66. I withdrew ^250 from the RBoA, withdrew 2 1-crops for ^23, withdrew 6 VP for ^63, deposited several note credits for ^168, withdrew 2 5-crops for ^39, withdrew 7 1-crops for ^112, and finally withdrew a 2-crop for ^27. That adds up to ^154. -root
DIS: Re: BUS: Banking/Farming
On 22 Oct 2008, at 23:21, Ian Kelly wrote: I PBA-withdraw a 2 crop for 27 coins (and could somebody verify that my coin holdings are now 153? the web report claims I only have 93 before this transaction). Why would you have that many? You now have ^66. -- ehird
DIS: Re: BUS: Banking/Farming
On 16 Oct 2008, at 23:02, Charles Reiss wrote: I mill 4 / 7 = X. I mill 4 / 7 = X. I mill 3 - 4 = X. I RBoA-withdraw an 8 crop for 61 chits. I mill 4 * 8 = X. I mill 4 + 6 = X. I PBA-deposit a 3 crop. I PBA-deposit a 6 crop. I RBoA-withdraw a 7 crop for 72 chits. I RBoA-withdraw a 1 crop for 66 chits. I PBA-withdraw a 0 crop. I harvest 2150, the number of a recently amended rule (using X for 2), for (I believe) 9 random crops. I harvest 2170, the number of a recently amended rule (using X for 2), for (I believe) 9 random crops. -woggle You have 47 coins. -- ehird
DIS: Re: BUS: Banking, Farming, and RBoA amendment
On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 8:40 PM, Charles Reiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I withdraw an 8 crop for 98 chits. (I should have 50 now.) > > I deposit a 5 crop for 77 chits. (I should have 137 now.) Bad math here. > > I deposit 3 0 crops for 120 chits. (197 now.) and here. > > > If I calculated things right, there are 7187 chits in existence, and I > hold 792 of them. > You are at 842 chits of a total of 7237 chits. All your actions are still successful. BobTHJ
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Banking, Farming, and RBoA amendment
On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 10:16 AM, Charles Reiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 07:17, Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 10:40 PM, Charles Reiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> X crops - 135 chits (no previous rate) >> >> This should probably be higher > > What would you suggest? > > - woggle > The price of an X crop should always be 1.x times the most expensive crop. 1.1 times might be good, but i'm not sure.
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Banking, Farming, and RBoA amendment
On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 07:17, Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 10:40 PM, Charles Reiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> X crops - 135 chits (no previous rate) > > This should probably be higher What would you suggest? - woggle
DIS: Re: BUS: Banking, Farming, and RBoA amendment
On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 10:40 PM, Charles Reiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > X crops - 135 chits (no previous rate) This should probably be higher
DIS: Re: BUS: Banking, farming
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 11:09 PM, ihope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > With the consent of all Bankers, I intend to modify the Bank of Agora > contract by replacing "Bankers shall act in good faith, keeping in > mind that the Bank of Agora's holdings belong to those people who have > pens, not the Bankers." with "Bankers SHALL NOT deposit a currency > within 7 days after increasing its deposit rate, or withdraw a > currency within 7 days after decreasing its withdrawal rate." I consent
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On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 9:54 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Quazie wrote: > >> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> BobTHJ wrote: >>> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:44 AM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I rename land #75 to Union Train Depot Fails. A land already exists with that name. >>> I rename land #75 to The Courthouse. >>> >>> >> >> This fails as the last one didn't. > > ? > The first attempt to change the name of land #75 was successful unless proven otherwise,. land isn't a rule defined entity, so nothing forbids lands from having the same name. As a result the second attempt to change the name of land #75 failed because no land was named land #75.
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Quazie wrote: > On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> BobTHJ wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:44 AM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I rename land #75 to Union Train Depot >>> Fails. A land already exists with that name. >> I rename land #75 to The Courthouse. >> >> > > This fails as the last one didn't. ?
DIS: Re: BUS: Banking, farming
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > BobTHJ wrote: > >> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:44 AM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> I rename land #75 to Union Train Depot >> >> Fails. A land already exists with that name. > > I rename land #75 to The Courthouse. > > This fails as the last one didn't.
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On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 2:28 PM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 4:54 PM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> I mill 5547, 5548, and 5549 (using X crops as 5s), Democratic >>> proposals, for a total of 12 points. >> >> BobTHJ, did you forget to process this? >> > Just haven't got there yet. Sorry, it looked like you had processed all the other actions, so I thought you might have forgotten. You see, I want to spend my points ;).
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On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 2:28 PM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 4:54 PM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I mill 5547, 5548, and 5549 (using X crops as 5s), Democratic >> proposals, for a total of 12 points. > > BobTHJ, did you forget to process this? > Just haven't got there yet.
DIS: Re: BUS: Banking, farming
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 4:54 PM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I mill 5547, 5548, and 5549 (using X crops as 5s), Democratic > proposals, for a total of 12 points. BobTHJ, did you forget to process this?
DIS: Re: BUS: Banking, farming
Just to say so, when I wrote the Bank of Agora contract, I intended the announcements for depositing and withdrawing to include both what's deposited and withdrawn and the number of pens. --Ivan Hope CXXVII
