DIS: Re: BUS: Kindness
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 12:08 PM, ais523 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gratuitous arguments: tusho forgot e was a member of the AAA, and therefore is unlikely to have created the CFJs for the putpose of harvesting the ID numbers assigned. I argue that tusho created the CFJs so that /someone else/ could harvest the ID numbers assigned, which is not a breach of the contract the way that it's currently written. (tusho does not have sufficient crops to harvest the resulting ID numbers anyway.) So I recommend a null judgement. I would disagree. The contract reads: 15. Creating proposals or CFJs for the clear and primary purpose of Harvesting the ID numbers assigned is a breach of this contract. It doesn't specify who will be doing the harvesting, only that the CFJs are created for the purpose of harvesting (which they were). BobTHJ
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Kindness
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 11:12 AM, Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would disagree. The contract reads: 15. Creating proposals or CFJs for the clear and primary purpose of Harvesting the ID numbers assigned is a breach of this contract. It doesn't specify who will be doing the harvesting, only that the CFJs are created for the purpose of harvesting (which they were). I agree with ais523's reading. Driving the car for the clear and primary purpose of going shopping isn't satisfied if we're driving someone else to the store. -- Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you. -- Unknown
DIS: Re: BUS: Kindness
Goethe wrote: I'd better switch myself to hemming and hawing. I do so. -Goethe This was a no-op, you already were h-and-h.
DIS: Re: BUS: Kindness
2008/9/3 Ben Caplan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: As a matter of fact, I don't think violating AAA paragraph 15 is prop-worthy. I transfer one prop from myself (because the situation ihope anticipated isn't occurring; effectively, from tusho because e is spamming CFJs) to H. CotC Murphy (because tusho is spamming CFJs). I'm not a party to the AAA. Hooray.
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Kindness
On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 2:35 PM, Elliott Hird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/9/3 Ben Caplan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: As a matter of fact, I don't think violating AAA paragraph 15 is prop-worthy. I transfer one prop from myself (because the situation ihope anticipated isn't occurring; effectively, from tusho because e is spamming CFJs) to H. CotC Murphy (because tusho is spamming CFJs). I'm not a party to the AAA. Hooray. Yes, you are. BobTHJ
DIS: Re: BUS: Kindness
2008/9/3 comex [EMAIL PROTECTED]: So: I initiate an equity case with respect to the AAA. The state of affairs by which events have not proceeded as envisioned by the contract is that tusho has violated section 15 of the AAA agreement: 15. Creating proposals or CFJs for the clear and primary purpose of Harvesting the ID numbers assigned is a breach of this contract. (Parties: BobTHJ, Murphy, Wooble, comex, root, Taral, OscarMeyr, the AFO, Quazie, Pavitra, ais523, Teh Cltohed Mna, woggle, Ivan Hope CXXVII, tusho, The PerlNomic Partnership, avpx) what? Since when am I an AAA party?
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Kindness
2008/9/3 Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yes, you are. BobTHJ Wtf. I explicitly didn't care about the AAA and didn't want part in its shenanigans. If this was a criminal CFJ I imagine it'd be UNAWARE.
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Kindness
On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 2:35 PM, Elliott Hird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/9/3 Ben Caplan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: As a matter of fact, I don't think violating AAA paragraph 15 is prop-worthy. I transfer one prop from myself (because the situation ihope anticipated isn't occurring; effectively, from tusho because e is spamming CFJs) to H. CotC Murphy (because tusho is spamming CFJs). I'm not a party to the AAA. Hooray. The Notary's report lists you as a party. -root
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Kindness
On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 2:39 PM, Elliott Hird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what? Since when am I an AAA party? Here it is: On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Elliott Hird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/6/12 ihope [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 12:53 PM, Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I intend without three objections to amend the AAA agreement as follows: { In section 16 replace: I object. ehird objects. Teh Cltohed Mna objects. (Oh, wait, those last two fail.) I join the AAA. ehird joins the AAA. Teh Cltohed Mna joins the AAA. (Hmp, the last two fail again. Darn it.) --Ivan Hope CXXVII I object. I join the AAA. ehird
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Kindness
2008/9/3 Ian Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 2:39 PM, Elliott Hird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what? Since when am I an AAA party? Here it is: Psht. Why on earth did I do that.
DIS: Re: BUS: Kindness
On Wednesday 03 September 2008 03:36:00 pm comex wrote: I initiate an equity case with respect to the AAA. The state of affairs by which events have not proceeded as envisioned by the contract is that tusho has violated section 15 of the AAA agreement: 15. Creating proposals or CFJs for the clear and primary purpose of Harvesting the ID numbers assigned is a breach of this contract. To be honest, I'm not sure this creates an inequity in itself. If someone then tried to harvest the CFJs, then equity should take away their WRVs, but as it is I don't see what should be done equity-wise to fix the situation. Pavitra
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Kindness
On Wed, 3 Sep 2008, Ben Caplan wrote: On Wednesday 03 September 2008 03:36:00 pm comex wrote: I initiate an equity case with respect to the AAA. The state of affairs by which events have not proceeded as envisioned by the contract is that tusho has violated section 15 of the AAA agreement: 15. Creating proposals or CFJs for the clear and primary purpose of Harvesting the ID numbers assigned is a breach of this contract. To be honest, I'm not sure this creates an inequity in itself. If someone then tried to harvest the CFJs, then equity should take away their WRVs, but as it is I don't see what should be done equity-wise to fix the situation. 1. What if someone was working towards harvesting these CFJs naturally when they came up later on, but now its too early? What if the caller anticipated that and was doing this to prevent harvesting? 2. CotC and judges have to deal with these. Takes nonzero effort. Some are members, but might not be if the contest tended to make more work for themselves. That being said, the Plaintiff would be better served to at least suggest the severity of the inequity to make these more than hypotheticals. -Goethe