DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

[Corona]

T.T I couldn't have acted on that intent any earlier than next Tuesday, and
the dynasty will definitely be over by then.

~Corona

On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 3:24 PM, Cuddle Beam  wrote:

> I object to Corona’s attempt, because the dynasty isn’t over just yet (will
> be soon though).
>
> On Fri, 15 Jun 2018 at 06:35, Corona  wrote:
>
> > Without objection I intend to retract every pledge I own. (the BlogNomic
> > one is no longer useful, too)
> >
> > ~Corona
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 1:02 AM, Ned Strange 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Without objection I intend to retract each pledge I own.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 8:20 AM, Kerim Aydin 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The below pledge list from the June 3 Referee Report self-ratified
> > prior
> > > > to Proposal 8050 taking effect.  The pledge dates (date tracking now
> > > > required by the Notary) don't self-ratify, but I did go back and
> > confirm.
> > > > Searching for 'pledge' in public archives back to March revealed no
> > other
> > > > recent pledges.  Pledges older than 60 days no longer require
> tracking.
> > > >
> > > > =the Referee, whose next report will be shorter=
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > PLEDGES (self-ratifying list of assets)
> > > >
> > > > == Trigon - Created 01 Jun 2018 07:35:31
> > > > I pledge to use as much integrity as is possible whenever I generate
> > > > random numbers.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > == Corona - Created 27 May 2018 17:29:28
> > > > I pledge to do all of the following in Blognomic's current dynasty:
> > > >
> > > > -always ahoy
> > > > Gams
> > > >
> > > > -call hunts most of the time
> > > > -not change derrick’s or Cuddlebeam’s position if they perform their
> > > duties
> > > > adequately (scrubbing, joining hunts if healthy…)
> > > > -scrub the decks whenever I
> > > > am online and can do so
> > > >
> > > > -generally work toward the preservation of the ship and the lives of
> > > > sailors, and maximizing profits
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > == G. - Created 10 May 2018 15:39:57
> > > > I pledge that I will not make any bids on behalf of zombies in the
> May
> > > > 2018 zombie auction.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ===(below pledges were created prior to 01 Apr 2018)===
> > > >
> > > > Quazie -
> > > > I pledge to give 1 Shiny to the first person who can,
> > > > correctly, with e-mail citations, explain what I did wrong on
> > > > Jan 20th 2009 that has since led to me being a fugitive. For
> > > > the explanation to be valid for this pledge, it should be fully
> > > > self contained, I should not have to go look up past rules in
> > > > order to understand the explanation (So please, include all
> > > > source info in the explanation).
> > > >
> > > > V.J Rada -
> > > > I pledge not to make any thread titles completely unrelated to
> > > > the email's content, nor use any agency or other mechanism to
> > > > attempt to gain control of any player at the exclusion of all
> > > > other players.
> > > >
> > > > Gaelan (14 Sep 2017) -
> > > > I pledge to, for at least the next month, vote AGAINST any
> > > > proposal that amends rules by providing new text in full unless
> > > > the text of the rule is nearly entirely changed.
> > > >
> > > > nichdel -
> > > > I pledge to vote AGAINST on all proposals created or pended by
> > > > Cuddle Beam.
> > > >
> > > > nichdel -
> > > > I pledge to Object to all intentions by Cuddle Beam that I can
> > > > object to.
> > > >
> > > > nichdel -
> > > > I pledge to give a trust token and 5 shinies (as soon as
> > > > possible) to any other player who also performs the above three
> > > > pledges, except Cuddle Beam.
> > > >
> > > > nichdel -
> > > > I pledge to not refer to 天火狐 as Josh or Josh T.
> > > >
> > > > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus -
> > > > I too pledge to not refer to 天火狐 as Josh or Josh T.
> > > >
> > > > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus -
> > > > I...pledge to fix the margins, if the issue is explained to me.
> > > >
> > > > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus -
> > > > I pledge to deputize for the rulekeepor on October 19, 2017, if it is
> > > > still possible.
> > > >
> > > > Cuddlebeam -
> > > > I pledge to hook people up in a reasonable amount of time, according
> > > > to the message above, during what's left of the current month and
> > > > November.
> > > > [Referee's note: This pledge refers to the message listed
> > > > athttps://www.mail-archive.com/agora
> > > > business at agoranomic.org/msg30230.html]
> > > >
> > > > V.J. Rada -
> > > > I pledge to give a win and a black ribbon to everyone who votes for
> > > > "hopefully you guys all vote for this" if that passes.
> > > >
> > > > o - (Nov 7, '17)
> > > > I pledge to pay 5 sh. to the first person to publicly identify the
> > > > specific bug I fixed in the Surveyor’s report this week, provided
> > > > their answer includes either the word, some synonym for the word, or
> > > > some observation related to the word, whose sha256 hash is
> > > > e2c2bf1fdea49d1d90f7e17ac158016862f213b42f88b760aee47f697205d83a

DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

[Ørjan Johansen]

On Mon, 25 Jun 2018, Rebecca wrote:


I do so.


You were too late as proposal 8050 passed, and pledges are no longer 
retractable.


Fortunately that doesn't matter, as all your pledges were older than 60 
days.


Greetings,
Ørjan.


On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 9:02 AM, Ned Strange  wrote:

Without objection I intend to retract each pledge I own.

On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 8:20 AM, Kerim Aydin  wrote:



The below pledge list from the June 3 Referee Report self-ratified prior
to Proposal 8050 taking effect.  The pledge dates (date tracking now
required by the Notary) don't self-ratify, but I did go back and confirm.
Searching for 'pledge' in public archives back to March revealed no other
recent pledges.  Pledges older than 60 days no longer require tracking.

=the Referee, whose next report will be shorter=


PLEDGES (self-ratifying list of assets)

== Trigon - Created 01 Jun 2018 07:35:31
I pledge to use as much integrity as is possible whenever I generate
random numbers.


== Corona - Created 27 May 2018 17:29:28
I pledge to do all of the following in Blognomic's current dynasty:

-always ahoy
Gams

-call hunts most of the time
-not change derrick’s or Cuddlebeam’s position if they perform their duties
adequately (scrubbing, joining hunts if healthy…)
-scrub the decks whenever I
am online and can do so

-generally work toward the preservation of the ship and the lives of
sailors, and maximizing profits


== G. - Created 10 May 2018 15:39:57
I pledge that I will not make any bids on behalf of zombies in the May
2018 zombie auction.


===(below pledges were created prior to 01 Apr 2018)===

Quazie -
I pledge to give 1 Shiny to the first person who can,
correctly, with e-mail citations, explain what I did wrong on
Jan 20th 2009 that has since led to me being a fugitive. For
the explanation to be valid for this pledge, it should be fully
self contained, I should not have to go look up past rules in
order to understand the explanation (So please, include all
source info in the explanation).

V.J Rada -
I pledge not to make any thread titles completely unrelated to
the email's content, nor use any agency or other mechanism to
attempt to gain control of any player at the exclusion of all
other players.

Gaelan (14 Sep 2017) -
I pledge to, for at least the next month, vote AGAINST any
proposal that amends rules by providing new text in full unless
the text of the rule is nearly entirely changed.

nichdel -
I pledge to vote AGAINST on all proposals created or pended by
Cuddle Beam.

nichdel -
I pledge to Object to all intentions by Cuddle Beam that I can
object to.

nichdel -
I pledge to give a trust token and 5 shinies (as soon as
possible) to any other player who also performs the above three
pledges, except Cuddle Beam.

nichdel -
I pledge to not refer to 天火狐 as Josh or Josh T.

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus -
I too pledge to not refer to 天火狐 as Josh or Josh T.

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus -
I...pledge to fix the margins, if the issue is explained to me.

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus -
I pledge to deputize for the rulekeepor on October 19, 2017, if it is
still possible.

Cuddlebeam -
I pledge to hook people up in a reasonable amount of time, according
to the message above, during what's left of the current month and
November.
[Referee's note: This pledge refers to the message listed
athttps://www.mail-archive.com/agora
business at agoranomic.org/msg30230.html]

V.J. Rada -
I pledge to give a win and a black ribbon to everyone who votes for
"hopefully you guys all vote for this" if that passes.

o - (Nov 7, '17)
I pledge to pay 5 sh. to the first person to publicly identify the
specific bug I fixed in the Surveyor’s report this week, provided
their answer includes either the word, some synonym for the word, or
some observation related to the word, whose sha256 hash is
e2c2bf1fdea49d1d90f7e17ac158016862f213b42f88b760aee47f697205d83a, and
that I will disclose the word as part of the reward if it is collected.

o -
I pledge to distribute the payment in a timely fashion if the CFJ
finds that CuddleBeam’s payment did, in fact, occur.
[Referee's note: e's referring to a payment made by Cuddlebeam in
accordance with the rule "Poetry Duel Challenge Writ", which is the
subject of a currently unnassigned CFJ. I would appreciate it if you
guys created pledges with the context included in them.]

Trigon -
I pledge that if I do not win the election for Rulekeepor, I will put
myself up as a candidate for this election.
[Referee's note: E's referring to the Fearmongor election on 6 Nov 2017]

V.J. Rada -
I pledge to, weekly, if I am Referee, publish a document called
"Pledges you should withdraw", listing pledges that have already been
completed or are impossible.

V.J. Rada -
I pledge not to point any fingers

Alexis -
I pledge to transfer 5 shinies to the author of the first proposal that
gives the Rulekeepor authority, under Cleanup Time, to additionally
correct, at least: missing periods at the end of sentences, inc

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

[Kerim Aydin]

You couldn't have anyway because PLEDGES CAN NO LONGER BE DESTROYED, 
WITHOUT OBJECTION OR OTHERWISE.

They can't be destroyed at all because they're no longer assets.  Please read 
Proposal 8050 - the only way for a pledge to end is to time out (and that
doesn't outright "destroy" it, it just makes it untracked and non-punishable).

On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Corona wrote:
> T.T I couldn't have acted on that intent any earlier than next Tuesday, and
> the dynasty will definitely be over by then.
> 
> ~Corona
> 
> On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 3:24 PM, Cuddle Beam  wrote:
> 
> > I object to Corona’s attempt, because the dynasty isn’t over just yet (will
> > be soon though).
> >
> > On Fri, 15 Jun 2018 at 06:35, Corona  wrote:
> >
> > > Without objection I intend to retract every pledge I own. (the BlogNomic
> > > one is no longer useful, too)
> > >
> > > ~Corona
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 1:02 AM, Ned Strange 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Without objection I intend to retract each pledge I own.
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 8:20 AM, Kerim Aydin 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The below pledge list from the June 3 Referee Report self-ratified
> > > prior
> > > > > to Proposal 8050 taking effect.  The pledge dates (date tracking now
> > > > > required by the Notary) don't self-ratify, but I did go back and
> > > confirm.
> > > > > Searching for 'pledge' in public archives back to March revealed no
> > > other
> > > > > recent pledges.  Pledges older than 60 days no longer require
> > tracking.
> > > > >
> > > > > =the Referee, whose next report will be shorter=
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > PLEDGES (self-ratifying list of assets)
> > > > >
> > > > > == Trigon - Created 01 Jun 2018 07:35:31
> > > > > I pledge to use as much integrity as is possible whenever I generate
> > > > > random numbers.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > == Corona - Created 27 May 2018 17:29:28
> > > > > I pledge to do all of the following in Blognomic's current dynasty:
> > > > >
> > > > > -always ahoy
> > > > > Gams
> > > > >
> > > > > -call hunts most of the time
> > > > > -not change derrick’s or Cuddlebeam’s position if they perform their
> > > > duties
> > > > > adequately (scrubbing, joining hunts if healthy…)
> > > > > -scrub the decks whenever I
> > > > > am online and can do so
> > > > >
> > > > > -generally work toward the preservation of the ship and the lives of
> > > > > sailors, and maximizing profits
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > == G. - Created 10 May 2018 15:39:57
> > > > > I pledge that I will not make any bids on behalf of zombies in the
> > May
> > > > > 2018 zombie auction.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ===(below pledges were created prior to 01 Apr 2018)===
> > > > >
> > > > > Quazie -
> > > > > I pledge to give 1 Shiny to the first person who can,
> > > > > correctly, with e-mail citations, explain what I did wrong on
> > > > > Jan 20th 2009 that has since led to me being a fugitive. For
> > > > > the explanation to be valid for this pledge, it should be fully
> > > > > self contained, I should not have to go look up past rules in
> > > > > order to understand the explanation (So please, include all
> > > > > source info in the explanation).
> > > > >
> > > > > V.J Rada -
> > > > > I pledge not to make any thread titles completely unrelated to
> > > > > the email's content, nor use any agency or other mechanism to
> > > > > attempt to gain control of any player at the exclusion of all
> > > > > other players.
> > > > >
> > > > > Gaelan (14 Sep 2017) -
> > > > > I pledge to, for at least the next month, vote AGAINST any
> > > > > proposal that amends rules by providing new text in full unless
> > > > > the text of the rule is nearly entirely changed.
> > > > >
> > > > > nichdel -
> > > > > I pledge to vote AGAINST on all proposals created or pended by
> > > > > Cuddle Beam.
> > > > >
> > > > > nichdel -
> > > > > I pledge to Object to all intentions by Cuddle Beam that I can
> > > > > object to.
> > > > >
> > > > > nichdel -
> > > > > I pledge to give a trust token and 5 shinies (as soon as
> > > > > possible) to any other player who also performs the above three
> > > > > pledges, except Cuddle Beam.
> > > > >
> > > > > nichdel -
> > > > > I pledge to not refer to 天火狐 as Josh or Josh T.
> > > > >
> > > > > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus -
> > > > > I too pledge to not refer to 天火狐 as Josh or Josh T.
> > > > >
> > > > > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus -
> > > > > I...pledge to fix the margins, if the issue is explained to me.
> > > > >
> > > > > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus -
> > > > > I pledge to deputize for the rulekeepor on October 19, 2017, if it is
> > > > > still possible.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cuddlebeam -
> > > > > I pledge to hook people up in a reasonable amount of time, according
> > > > > to the message above, during what's left of the current month and
> > > > > November.
> > > > > [Referee's note: This pledge refers to the message listed
> > > > > athttps://www.mail-archive.com/a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

[Aris Merchant]

Did you ever resolve proposal 8050? I certainly can't find a resolution...

-Aris

On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 9:09 AM Kerim Aydin  wrote:

>
>
> You couldn't have anyway because PLEDGES CAN NO LONGER BE DESTROYED,
> WITHOUT OBJECTION OR OTHERWISE.
>
> They can't be destroyed at all because they're no longer assets.  Please
> read
> Proposal 8050 - the only way for a pledge to end is to time out (and that
> doesn't outright "destroy" it, it just makes it untracked and
> non-punishable).
>
> On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Corona wrote:
> > T.T I couldn't have acted on that intent any earlier than next Tuesday,
> and
> > the dynasty will definitely be over by then.
> >
> > ~Corona
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 3:24 PM, Cuddle Beam 
> wrote:
> >
> > > I object to Corona’s attempt, because the dynasty isn’t over just yet
> (will
> > > be soon though).
> > >
> > > On Fri, 15 Jun 2018 at 06:35, Corona 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Without objection I intend to retract every pledge I own. (the
> BlogNomic
> > > > one is no longer useful, too)
> > > >
> > > > ‾Corona
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 1:02 AM, Ned Strange <
> edwardostra...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Without objection I intend to retract each pledge I own.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 8:20 AM, Kerim Aydin <
> ke...@u.washington.edu>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The below pledge list from the June 3 Referee Report
> self-ratified
> > > > prior
> > > > > > to Proposal 8050 taking effect.  The pledge dates (date tracking
> now
> > > > > > required by the Notary) don't self-ratify, but I did go back and
> > > > confirm.
> > > > > > Searching for 'pledge' in public archives back to March revealed
> no
> > > > other
> > > > > > recent pledges.  Pledges older than 60 days no longer require
> > > tracking.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > =the Referee, whose next report will be shorter=
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > PLEDGES (self-ratifying list of assets)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > == Trigon - Created 01 Jun 2018 07:35:31
> > > > > > I pledge to use as much integrity as is possible whenever I
> generate
> > > > > > random numbers.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > == Corona - Created 27 May 2018 17:29:28
> > > > > > I pledge to do all of the following in Blognomic's current
> dynasty:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -always ahoy
> > > > > > Gams
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -call hunts most of the time
> > > > > > -not change derrick’s or Cuddlebeam’s position if they perform
> their
> > > > > duties
> > > > > > adequately (scrubbing, joining hunts if healthy…)
> > > > > > -scrub the decks whenever I
> > > > > > am online and can do so
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -generally work toward the preservation of the ship and the
> lives of
> > > > > > sailors, and maximizing profits
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > == G. - Created 10 May 2018 15:39:57
> > > > > > I pledge that I will not make any bids on behalf of zombies in
> the
> > > May
> > > > > > 2018 zombie auction.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ===(below pledges were created prior to 01 Apr 2018)===
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Quazie -
> > > > > > I pledge to give 1 Shiny to the first person who can,
> > > > > > correctly, with e-mail citations, explain what I did wrong on
> > > > > > Jan 20th 2009 that has since led to me being a fugitive. For
> > > > > > the explanation to be valid for this pledge, it should be fully
> > > > > > self contained, I should not have to go look up past rules in
> > > > > > order to understand the explanation (So please, include all
> > > > > > source info in the explanation).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > V.J Rada -
> > > > > > I pledge not to make any thread titles completely unrelated to
> > > > > > the email's content, nor use any agency or other mechanism to
> > > > > > attempt to gain control of any player at the exclusion of all
> > > > > > other players.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gaelan (14 Sep 2017) -
> > > > > > I pledge to, for at least the next month, vote AGAINST any
> > > > > > proposal that amends rules by providing new text in full unless
> > > > > > the text of the rule is nearly entirely changed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > nichdel -
> > > > > > I pledge to vote AGAINST on all proposals created or pended by
> > > > > > Cuddle Beam.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > nichdel -
> > > > > > I pledge to Object to all intentions by Cuddle Beam that I can
> > > > > > object to.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > nichdel -
> > > > > > I pledge to give a trust token and 5 shinies (as soon as
> > > > > > possible) to any other player who also performs the above three
> > > > > > pledges, except Cuddle Beam.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > nichdel -
> > > > > > I pledge to not refer to 天火狐 as Josh or Josh T.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus -
> > > > > > I too pledge to not refer to 天火狐 as Josh or Josh T.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus -
> > > > > > I...pledge to fix the margins, if the issue is explained to me.
> > > > > >
> > > > > 

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

[Kerim Aydin]

Er, might want to check the Proposal # in the CFJ statement...

I'll re-send the resolution to converge the gamestate in case it failed
before.  I think the only things I did for zombies were announcements-of-
intent so I don't think the time difference breaks anything (yet!)


On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Aris Merchant wrote:
> Just checked the unofficial OFF mail archive. The message got eaten on its
> way to me, and maybe some other people, but definitely went to, which is
> super scary.
> 
> I CFJ "Proposal 1905 has been resolved."
> Arguments:
> 
> Per CFJ 1905, non-receipt of a message by those who have arraigned to
> receive messages via the forum is grounds to regard actions taken therein
> as invalid. My spam filter didn't eat it (I've checked, and it's also set
> never to eat Agora stuff) so it probably never entered my technical domain
> of control.
> ---
> 
> We really need to figure out these server problems ASAP.
> -Aris
> 
> On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 12:06 PM Aris Merchant <
> thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Did you ever resolve proposal 8050? I certainly can't find a resolution...
> >
> > -Aris
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 9:09 AM Kerim Aydin 
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> You couldn't have anyway because PLEDGES CAN NO LONGER BE DESTROYED,
> >> WITHOUT OBJECTION OR OTHERWISE.
> >>
> >> They can't be destroyed at all because they're no longer assets.  Please
> >> read
> >> Proposal 8050 - the only way for a pledge to end is to time out (and that
> >> doesn't outright "destroy" it, it just makes it untracked and
> >> non-punishable).
> >>
> >> On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Corona wrote:
> >> > T.T I couldn't have acted on that intent any earlier than next Tuesday,
> >> and
> >> > the dynasty will definitely be over by then.
> >> >
> >> > ~Corona
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 3:24 PM, Cuddle Beam 
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > I object to Corona’s attempt, because the dynasty isn’t over just yet
> >> (will
> >> > > be soon though).
> >> > >
> >> > > On Fri, 15 Jun 2018 at 06:35, Corona 
> >> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Without objection I intend to retract every pledge I own. (the
> >> BlogNomic
> >> > > > one is no longer useful, too)
> >> > > >
> >> > > > ¯Corona
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 1:02 AM, Ned Strange <
> >> edwardostra...@gmail.com>
> >> > > > wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > Without objection I intend to retract each pledge I own.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 8:20 AM, Kerim Aydin <
> >> ke...@u.washington.edu>
> >> > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > The below pledge list from the June 3 Referee Report
> >> self-ratified
> >> > > > prior
> >> > > > > > to Proposal 8050 taking effect.  The pledge dates (date
> >> tracking now
> >> > > > > > required by the Notary) don't self-ratify, but I did go back and
> >> > > > confirm.
> >> > > > > > Searching for 'pledge' in public archives back to March
> >> revealed no
> >> > > > other
> >> > > > > > recent pledges.  Pledges older than 60 days no longer require
> >> > > tracking.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > =the Referee, whose next report will be shorter=
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > PLEDGES (self-ratifying list of assets)
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > == Trigon - Created 01 Jun 2018 07:35:31
> >> > > > > > I pledge to use as much integrity as is possible whenever I
> >> generate
> >> > > > > > random numbers.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > == Corona - Created 27 May 2018 17:29:28
> >> > > > > > I pledge to do all of the following in Blognomic's current
> >> dynasty:
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > -always ahoy
> >> > > > > > Gams
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > -call hunts most of the time
> >> > > > > > -not change derrick’s or Cuddlebeam’s position if they perform
> >> their
> >> > > > > duties
> >> > > > > > adequately (scrubbing, joining hunts if healthy…)
> >> > > > > > -scrub the decks whenever I
> >> > > > > > am online and can do so
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > -generally work toward the preservation of the ship and the
> >> lives of
> >> > > > > > sailors, and maximizing profits
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > == G. - Created 10 May 2018 15:39:57
> >> > > > > > I pledge that I will not make any bids on behalf of zombies in
> >> the
> >> > > May
> >> > > > > > 2018 zombie auction.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > ===(below pledges were created prior to 01 Apr 2018)===
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Quazie -
> >> > > > > > I pledge to give 1 Shiny to the first person who can,
> >> > > > > > correctly, with e-mail citations, explain what I did wrong on
> >> > > > > > Jan 20th 2009 that has since led to me being a fugitive. For
> >> > > > > > the explanation to be valid for this pledge, it should be fully
> >> > > > > > self contained, I should not have to go look up past rules in
> >> > > > > > order to understand the explanation (So please, include all
> >> > > > > > source info in the explanation).
> >> > > 

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

[Cuddle Beam]

I'm paranoid.

*adjusts tinfoil hat*

On Fri, 15 Jun 2018 at 17:40, Corona  wrote:

> T.T I couldn't have acted on that intent any earlier than next Tuesday, and
> the dynasty will definitely be over by then.
>
> ~Corona
>
> On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 3:24 PM, Cuddle Beam  wrote:
>
> > I object to Corona’s attempt, because the dynasty isn’t over just yet
> (will
> > be soon though).
> >
> > On Fri, 15 Jun 2018 at 06:35, Corona 
> wrote:
> >
> > > Without objection I intend to retract every pledge I own. (the
> BlogNomic
> > > one is no longer useful, too)
> > >
> > > ~Corona
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 1:02 AM, Ned Strange  >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Without objection I intend to retract each pledge I own.
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 8:20 AM, Kerim Aydin  >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The below pledge list from the June 3 Referee Report self-ratified
> > > prior
> > > > > to Proposal 8050 taking effect.  The pledge dates (date tracking
> now
> > > > > required by the Notary) don't self-ratify, but I did go back and
> > > confirm.
> > > > > Searching for 'pledge' in public archives back to March revealed no
> > > other
> > > > > recent pledges.  Pledges older than 60 days no longer require
> > tracking.
> > > > >
> > > > > =the Referee, whose next report will be shorter=
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > PLEDGES (self-ratifying list of assets)
> > > > >
> > > > > == Trigon - Created 01 Jun 2018 07:35:31
> > > > > I pledge to use as much integrity as is possible whenever I
> generate
> > > > > random numbers.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > == Corona - Created 27 May 2018 17:29:28
> > > > > I pledge to do all of the following in Blognomic's current dynasty:
> > > > >
> > > > > -always ahoy
> > > > > Gams
> > > > >
> > > > > -call hunts most of the time
> > > > > -not change derrick’s or Cuddlebeam’s position if they perform
> their
> > > > duties
> > > > > adequately (scrubbing, joining hunts if healthy…)
> > > > > -scrub the decks whenever I
> > > > > am online and can do so
> > > > >
> > > > > -generally work toward the preservation of the ship and the lives
> of
> > > > > sailors, and maximizing profits
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > == G. - Created 10 May 2018 15:39:57
> > > > > I pledge that I will not make any bids on behalf of zombies in the
> > May
> > > > > 2018 zombie auction.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ===(below pledges were created prior to 01 Apr 2018)===
> > > > >
> > > > > Quazie -
> > > > > I pledge to give 1 Shiny to the first person who can,
> > > > > correctly, with e-mail citations, explain what I did wrong on
> > > > > Jan 20th 2009 that has since led to me being a fugitive. For
> > > > > the explanation to be valid for this pledge, it should be fully
> > > > > self contained, I should not have to go look up past rules in
> > > > > order to understand the explanation (So please, include all
> > > > > source info in the explanation).
> > > > >
> > > > > V.J Rada -
> > > > > I pledge not to make any thread titles completely unrelated to
> > > > > the email's content, nor use any agency or other mechanism to
> > > > > attempt to gain control of any player at the exclusion of all
> > > > > other players.
> > > > >
> > > > > Gaelan (14 Sep 2017) -
> > > > > I pledge to, for at least the next month, vote AGAINST any
> > > > > proposal that amends rules by providing new text in full unless
> > > > > the text of the rule is nearly entirely changed.
> > > > >
> > > > > nichdel -
> > > > > I pledge to vote AGAINST on all proposals created or pended by
> > > > > Cuddle Beam.
> > > > >
> > > > > nichdel -
> > > > > I pledge to Object to all intentions by Cuddle Beam that I can
> > > > > object to.
> > > > >
> > > > > nichdel -
> > > > > I pledge to give a trust token and 5 shinies (as soon as
> > > > > possible) to any other player who also performs the above three
> > > > > pledges, except Cuddle Beam.
> > > > >
> > > > > nichdel -
> > > > > I pledge to not refer to 天火狐 as Josh or Josh T.
> > > > >
> > > > > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus -
> > > > > I too pledge to not refer to 天火狐 as Josh or Josh T.
> > > > >
> > > > > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus -
> > > > > I...pledge to fix the margins, if the issue is explained to me.
> > > > >
> > > > > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus -
> > > > > I pledge to deputize for the rulekeepor on October 19, 2017, if it
> is
> > > > > still possible.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cuddlebeam -
> > > > > I pledge to hook people up in a reasonable amount of time,
> according
> > > > > to the message above, during what's left of the current month and
> > > > > November.
> > > > > [Referee's note: This pledge refers to the message listed
> > > > > athttps://www.mail-archive.com/agora
> > > > > business at agoranomic.org/msg30230.html]
> > > > >
> > > > > V.J. Rada -
> > > > > I pledge to give a win and a black ribbon to everyone who votes for
> > > > > "hopefully you guys all vote for this" if that passes.
> > > > >
> > > > > o - (Nov 7, '17)
> 

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

[Aris Merchant]

Poll: Who has and hasn't received the email? Please reply, and we'll use
the honor system.

-Aris

On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 1:43 PM Kerim Aydin  wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Aris Merchant wrote:
> > Oops. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that one has been resolved. I retract my
> prior
> > CFJ, and CFJ "Proposal 8050 has been resolved."
>
> Gratuitous:  The email in question was delivered to my own inbox via the
> list
> reasonably quickly after I sent it.  I'm including the full headers below
> in
> case it helps interpret anything:
>
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> I resolve the Agoran Decisions to adopt Proposals 8050-8052 as follows.
> Quorum is 6 for all of these proposals.
>
> [Remainder of message cut]
>
>
> > On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 1:34 PM Kerim Aydin 
> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Er, might want to check the Proposal # in the CFJ statement...
> > >
> > > I'll re-send the resolution to converge the gamestate in case it failed
> > >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

[Cuddle Beam]

https://i.gyazo.com/bf99d85e20f8a18ef447acdb3b4339ae.png

For some reason it's hitting my spam inbox.

On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 10:45 PM, Aris Merchant <
thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Poll: Who has and hasn't received the email? Please reply, and we'll use
> the honor system.
>
> -Aris
>
> On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 1:43 PM Kerim Aydin 
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Aris Merchant wrote:
> > > Oops. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that one has been resolved. I retract my
> > prior
> > > CFJ, and CFJ "Proposal 8050 has been resolved."
> >
> > Gratuitous:  The email in question was delivered to my own inbox via the
> > list
> > reasonably quickly after I sent it.  I'm including the full headers below
> > in
> > case it helps interpret anything:
> >
> > Return-Path: 
> > Received: via tmail-2007f.22 (invoked by user kerim) for
> kerim+mail/agora;
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Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

[Kerim Aydin]

On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Aris Merchant wrote:
> Oops. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that one has been resolved. I retract my prior
> CFJ, and CFJ "Proposal 8050 has been resolved."

Except now - haha - I made a second, hopefully successful attempt to resolve a
few moments *before* this second CFJ came in, so this would now be true if
that second attempt succeeded - sorry about that...

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

[Timon Walshe-Grey]

Sorry, was about to get around to responding to this chain.

I have NOT received the email resolving proposals 8050-8052. It's not in my 
spam folder either.

-twg
​​

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐

On June 15, 2018 8:45 PM, Aris Merchant  
wrote:

> ​​
> 
> Poll: Who has and hasn't received the email? Please reply, and we'll use
> 
> the honor system.
> 
> -Aris
> 
> On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 1:43 PM Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Aris Merchant wrote:
> > 
> > > Oops. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that one has been resolved. I retract my
> > > 
> > > prior
> > > 
> > > CFJ, and CFJ "Proposal 8050 has been resolved."
> > 
> > Gratuitous: The email in question was delivered to my own inbox via the
> > 
> > list
> > 
> > reasonably quickly after I sent it. I'm including the full headers below
> > 
> > in
> > 
> > case it helps interpret anything:
> > 
> > Return-Path: agora-official-boun...@agoranomic.org
> > 
> > Received: via tmail-2007f.22 (invoked by user kerim) for kerim+mail/agora;
> > 
> > Thu, 14 Jun 2018 11:48:17 -0700 (PDT)
> > 
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Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

[Timon Walshe-Grey]

I don't believe I've received this second attempt either.

-twg
​​

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐

On June 15, 2018 8:45 PM, Kerim Aydin  wrote:

> ​​
> 
> On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Aris Merchant wrote:
> 
> > Oops. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that one has been resolved. I retract my prior
> > 
> > CFJ, and CFJ "Proposal 8050 has been resolved."
> 
> Except now - haha - I made a second, hopefully successful attempt to resolve a
> 
> few moments before this second CFJ came in, so this would now be true if
> 
> that second attempt succeeded - sorry about that...

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

[Kerim Aydin]

Ugh.  I'll send it to Business and BAK.

OFF is still the one where the mailman archive is broken, too.

On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote:
> I don't believe I've received this second attempt either.
> 
> -twg
> ​​
> 
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> 
> On June 15, 2018 8:45 PM, Kerim Aydin  wrote:
> 
> > ​​
> > 
> > On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Aris Merchant wrote:
> > 
> > > Oops. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that one has been resolved. I retract my prior
> > > 
> > > CFJ, and CFJ "Proposal 8050 has been resolved."
> > 
> > Except now - haha - I made a second, hopefully successful attempt to 
> > resolve a
> > 
> > few moments before this second CFJ came in, so this would now be true if
> > 
> > that second attempt succeeded - sorry about that...
> 
> 
>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

[Aris Merchant]

Okay, I'm starting to develop a theory here. The agora-official list
is configured differently than the other two. It's owner is listed as
"taralx at gmail.com" whereas the others are owned by "owner-spamfilt
at agoranomic.org". I think we need to send a "something weird is
happening" report to omd.

-Aris
On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 1:54 PM Timon Walshe-Grey  wrote:
>
> I don't believe I've received this second attempt either.
>
> -twg
>
>
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
>
> On June 15, 2018 8:45 PM, Kerim Aydin  wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Aris Merchant wrote:
> >
> > > Oops. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that one has been resolved. I retract my prior
> > >
> > > CFJ, and CFJ "Proposal 8050 has been resolved."
> >
> > Except now - haha - I made a second, hopefully successful attempt to 
> > resolve a
> >
> > few moments before this second CFJ came in, so this would now be true if
> >
> > that second attempt succeeded - sorry about that...
>
>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

[Kerim Aydin]

oh my, taral was the distributor before omd.  I think the change was around 
2006.


On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Aris Merchant wrote:
> Okay, I'm starting to develop a theory here. The agora-official list
> is configured differently than the other two. It's owner is listed as
> "taralx at gmail.com" whereas the others are owned by "owner-spamfilt
> at agoranomic.org". I think we need to send a "something weird is
> happening" report to omd.
> 
> -Aris
> On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 1:54 PM Timon Walshe-Grey  wrote:
> >
> > I don't believe I've received this second attempt either.
> >
> > -twg
> >
> >
> > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> >
> > On June 15, 2018 8:45 PM, Kerim Aydin  wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Aris Merchant wrote:
> > >
> > > > Oops. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that one has been resolved. I retract my 
> > > > prior
> > > >
> > > > CFJ, and CFJ "Proposal 8050 has been resolved."
> > >
> > > Except now - haha - I made a second, hopefully successful attempt to 
> > > resolve a
> > >
> > > few moments before this second CFJ came in, so this would now be true if
> > >
> > > that second attempt succeeded - sorry about that...
> >
> >
>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

[Corona]

I'm in the same situation.

~Corona

On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 10:53 PM, Aris Merchant <
thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 1:48 PM Kerim Aydin 
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Aris Merchant wrote:
> > > Oops. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that one has been resolved. I retract my
> > prior
> > > CFJ, and CFJ "Proposal 8050 has been resolved."
> >
> > Except now - haha - I made a second, hopefully successful attempt to
> > resolve a
> > few moments *before* this second CFJ came in, so this would now be true
> if
> > that second attempt succeeded - sorry about that...
>
>
> I haven't received any OFF traffic since this [1] report. Is anyone else in
> the same situation? Frankly, this is rather terrifying.
>
> [1] https://www.mail-archive.com/agora-official@agoranomic.org/
> msg08914.html
>
> -Aris
>
> >
> >
>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

[Aris Merchant]

How is your email set up?

-Aris

On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 1:54 PM Timon Walshe-Grey  wrote:

> I don't believe I've received this second attempt either.
>
> -twg
> ​​
>
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
>
> On June 15, 2018 8:45 PM, Kerim Aydin  wrote:
>
> > ​​
> >
> > On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Aris Merchant wrote:
> >
> > > Oops. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that one has been resolved. I retract my
> prior
> > >
> > > CFJ, and CFJ "Proposal 8050 has been resolved."
> >
> > Except now - haha - I made a second, hopefully successful attempt to
> resolve a
> >
> > few moments before this second CFJ came in, so this would now be true if
> >
> > that second attempt succeeded - sorry about that...
>
>
>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

[Publius Scribonius Scholasticus]

I favor this CFJ.

On 06/15/2018 04:36 PM, Aris Merchant wrote:
> Oops. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that one has been resolved. I retract my prior
> CFJ, and CFJ "Proposal 8050 has been resolved."
>
> -Aris
>
> On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 1:34 PM Kerim Aydin  wrote:
>
>>
>> Er, might want to check the Proposal # in the CFJ statement...
>>
>> I'll re-send the resolution to converge the gamestate in case it failed
>> before.  I think the only things I did for zombies were announcements-of-
>> intent so I don't think the time difference breaks anything (yet!)
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Aris Merchant wrote:
>>> Just checked the unofficial OFF mail archive. The message got eaten on
>> its
>>> way to me, and maybe some other people, but definitely went to, which is
>>> super scary.
>>>
>>> I CFJ "Proposal 1905 has been resolved."
>>> Arguments:
>>>
>>> Per CFJ 1905, non-receipt of a message by those who have arraigned to
>>> receive messages via the forum is grounds to regard actions taken therein
>>> as invalid. My spam filter didn't eat it (I've checked, and it's also set
>>> never to eat Agora stuff) so it probably never entered my technical
>> domain
>>> of control.
>>> ---
>>>
>>> We really need to figure out these server problems ASAP.
>>> -Aris
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 12:06 PM Aris Merchant <
>>> thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Did you ever resolve proposal 8050? I certainly can't find a
>> resolution...
 -Aris

 On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 9:09 AM Kerim Aydin 
 wrote:

>
> You couldn't have anyway because PLEDGES CAN NO LONGER BE DESTROYED,
> WITHOUT OBJECTION OR OTHERWISE.
>
> They can't be destroyed at all because they're no longer assets.
>> Please
> read
> Proposal 8050 - the only way for a pledge to end is to time out (and
>> that
> doesn't outright "destroy" it, it just makes it untracked and
> non-punishable).
>
> On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Corona wrote:
>> T.T I couldn't have acted on that intent any earlier than next
>> Tuesday,
> and
>> the dynasty will definitely be over by then.
>>
>> ~Corona
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 3:24 PM, Cuddle Beam 
> wrote:
>>> I object to Corona’s attempt, because the dynasty isn’t over just
>> yet
> (will
>>> be soon though).
>>>
>>> On Fri, 15 Jun 2018 at 06:35, Corona  wrote:
 Without objection I intend to retract every pledge I own. (the
> BlogNomic
 one is no longer useful, too)

 ¯Corona

 On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 1:02 AM, Ned Strange <
> edwardostra...@gmail.com>
 wrote:

> Without objection I intend to retract each pledge I own.
>
> On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 8:20 AM, Kerim Aydin <
> ke...@u.washington.edu>
> wrote:
>>
>> The below pledge list from the June 3 Referee Report
> self-ratified
 prior
>> to Proposal 8050 taking effect.  The pledge dates (date
> tracking now
>> required by the Notary) don't self-ratify, but I did go
>> back and
 confirm.
>> Searching for 'pledge' in public archives back to March
> revealed no
 other
>> recent pledges.  Pledges older than 60 days no longer
>> require
>>> tracking.
>> =the Referee, whose next report will be shorter=
>>
>>
>> PLEDGES (self-ratifying list of assets)
>>
>> == Trigon - Created 01 Jun 2018 07:35:31
>> I pledge to use as much integrity as is possible whenever I
> generate
>> random numbers.
>>
>>
>> == Corona - Created 27 May 2018 17:29:28
>> I pledge to do all of the following in Blognomic's current
> dynasty:
>> -always ahoy
>> Gams
>>
>> -call hunts most of the time
>> -not change derrick’s or Cuddlebeam’s position if they
>> perform
> their
> duties
>> adequately (scrubbing, joining hunts if healthy…)
>> -scrub the decks whenever I
>> am online and can do so
>>
>> -generally work toward the preservation of the ship and the
> lives of
>> sailors, and maximizing profits
>>
>>
>> == G. - Created 10 May 2018 15:39:57
>> I pledge that I will not make any bids on behalf of zombies
>> in
> the
>>> May
>> 2018 zombie auction.
>>
>>
>> ===(below pledges were created prior to 01 Apr 2018)===
>>
>> Quazie -
>> I pledge to give 1 Shiny to the first person who can,
>> correctly, with e-mail citations, explain what I did wrong
>> on
>> Jan 20th 2009 that has since led to me being a fugitive. For
>> the explanation to be valid for this pledge, it should be
>> fully
>> self contained, I should not have to go look up past rules
>> in
>> order to understand the 

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

[Publius Scribonius Scholasticus]

I am in the same boat. From now until this is resolved, I would request
that all messages be sent to BAK or BUS, as opposed to OFF.

On 06/15/2018 04:53 PM, Aris Merchant wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 1:48 PM Kerim Aydin  wrote:
>
>>
>> On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Aris Merchant wrote:
>>> Oops. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that one has been resolved. I retract my
>> prior
>>> CFJ, and CFJ "Proposal 8050 has been resolved."
>> Except now - haha - I made a second, hopefully successful attempt to
>> resolve a
>> few moments *before* this second CFJ came in, so this would now be true if
>> that second attempt succeeded - sorry about that...
>
> I haven't received any OFF traffic since this [1] report. Is anyone else in
> the same situation? Frankly, this is rather terrifying.
>
> [1] https://www.mail-archive.com/agora-official@agoranomic.org/msg08914.html
>
> -Aris
>
>>

-- 

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

[Ørjan Johansen]

On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Cuddle Beam wrote:


I'm paranoid.

*adjusts tinfoil hat*


Are you sure that's genuine tin, and not the aluminum substitute the world 
government has stealthily fooled nearly everyone into using?


Greetings,
Ørjan.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

[Ørjan Johansen]

I don't seem to have it.

Greetings,
Ørjan.

On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Aris Merchant wrote:


Poll: Who has and hasn't received the email? Please reply, and we'll use
the honor system.

-Aris

On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 1:43 PM Kerim Aydin  wrote:




On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Aris Merchant wrote:

Oops. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that one has been resolved. I retract my

prior

CFJ, and CFJ "Proposal 8050 has been resolved."


Gratuitous:  The email in question was delivered to my own inbox via the
list
reasonably quickly after I sent it.  I'm including the full headers below
in
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I resolve the Agoran Decisions to adopt Proposals 8050-8052 as follows.
Quorum is 6 for all of these proposals.

[Remainder of message cut]



On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 1:34 PM Kerim Aydin 

wrote:





Er, might want to check the Proposal # in the CFJ statement...

I'll re-send the resolution to converge the gamestate in case it failed
before.  I think the only things I did for zombies were

announcements-of-

intent so I don't think the time difference breaks anything (yet!)

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

[Ørjan Johansen]

Me too.

Greetings,
Ørjan.

On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Corona wrote:


I'm in the same situation.

~Corona

On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 10:53 PM, Aris Merchant <
thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:


On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 1:48 PM Kerim Aydin 
wrote:




On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Aris Merchant wrote:

Oops. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that one has been resolved. I retract my

prior

CFJ, and CFJ "Proposal 8050 has been resolved."


Except now - haha - I made a second, hopefully successful attempt to
resolve a
few moments *before* this second CFJ came in, so this would now be true

if

that second attempt succeeded - sorry about that...



I haven't received any OFF traffic since this [1] report. Is anyone else in
the same situation? Frankly, this is rather terrifying.

[1] https://www.mail-archive.com/agora-official@agoranomic.org/
msg08914.html

-Aris

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

[ATMunn]

The original message? No, I haven't received it.

On 6/15/2018 4:45 PM, Aris Merchant wrote:

Poll: Who has and hasn't received the email? Please reply, and we'll use
the honor system.

-Aris

On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 1:43 PM Kerim Aydin  wrote:




On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Aris Merchant wrote:

Oops. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that one has been resolved. I retract my

prior

CFJ, and CFJ "Proposal 8050 has been resolved."


Gratuitous:  The email in question was delivered to my own inbox via the
list
reasonably quickly after I sent it.  I'm including the full headers below
in
case it helps interpret anything:

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I resolve the Agoran Decisions to adopt Proposals 8050-8052 as follows.
Quorum is 6 for all of these proposals.

[Remainder of message cut]



On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 1:34 PM Kerim Aydin 

wrote:





Er, might want to check the Proposal # in the CFJ statement...

I'll re-send the resolution to converge the gamestate in case it failed
before.  I think the only things I did for zombies were

announcements-of-

intent so I don't think the time diffe

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

[Ned Strange]

same

On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 12:41 AM, ATMunn  wrote:
> The original message? No, I haven't received it.
>
> On 6/15/2018 4:45 PM, Aris Merchant wrote:
>>
>> Poll: Who has and hasn't received the email? Please reply, and we'll use
>> the honor system.
>>
>> -Aris
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 1:43 PM Kerim Aydin 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Aris Merchant wrote:

 Oops. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that one has been resolved. I retract my
>>>
>>> prior

 CFJ, and CFJ "Proposal 8050 has been resolved."
>>>
>>>
>>> Gratuitous:  The email in question was delivered to my own inbox via the
>>> list
>>> reasonably quickly after I sent it.  I'm including the full headers below
>>> in
>>> case it helps interpret anything:
>>>
>>> Return-Path: 
>>> Received: via tmail-2007f.22 (invoked by user kerim) for
>>> kerim+mail/agora;
>>> Thu, 14 Jun 2018 11:48:17 -0700 (PDT)
>>> Received: from mxe29.s.uw.edu (mxe29.s.uw.edu [173.250.227.18])
>>>   by cg04.u.washington.edu (8.14.4+UW14.03/8.14.4+UW16.03) with ESMTP
>>> id w5EImGAx024904
>>>   for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2018
>>> 11:48:16
>>> -0700
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>>>w5EIlNUY013073
>>>(version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256
>>> verify=OK)
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>>> To: Agora Official 
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Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

[Aris Merchant]

Okay, anyone using gmail didn't receive it. However, this can't just be
gmail's fault, because plenty of people who aren't using gmail also haven't
received it. I'm quite confused. It would be great if those who have
received the messages could look at the headers and see if anything looks
different from pre-problem OFF and the other lists, because this is just
weird.

-Aris

On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 4:17 PM Ned Strange 
wrote:

> same
>
> On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 12:41 AM, ATMunn  wrote:
> > The original message? No, I haven't received it.
> >
> > On 6/15/2018 4:45 PM, Aris Merchant wrote:
> >>
> >> Poll: Who has and hasn't received the email? Please reply, and we'll use
> >> the honor system.
> >>
> >> -Aris
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 1:43 PM Kerim Aydin 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Aris Merchant wrote:
> 
>  Oops. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that one has been resolved. I retract my
> >>>
> >>> prior
> 
>  CFJ, and CFJ "Proposal 8050 has been resolved."
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Gratuitous:  The email in question was delivered to my own inbox via
> the
> >>> list
> >>> reasonably quickly after I sent it.  I'm including the full headers
> below
> >>> in
> >>> case it helps interpret anything:
> >>>
> >>> Return-Path: 
> >>> Received: via tmail-2007f.22 (invoked by user kerim) for
> >>> kerim+mail/agora;
> >>> Thu, 14 Jun 2018 11:48:17 -0700 (PDT)
> >>> Received: from mxe29.s.uw.edu (mxe29.s.uw.edu [173.250.227.18])
> >>>   by cg04.u.washington.edu (8.14.4+UW14.03/8.14.4+UW16.03) with
> ESMTP
> >>> id w5EImGAx024904
> >>>   for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2018
> >>> 11:48:16
> >>> -0700
> >>> Received: from vps.qoid.us ([71.19.146.223])
> >>>   by mxe29.s.uw.edu (8.14.4+UW14.03/8.14.4+UW16.03) with SMTP id
> >>> w5EIm5nl013556
> >>>   for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2018 11:48:05 -0700
> >>> Received: (qmail 25986 invoked from network); 14 Jun 2018 18:48:04
> -
> >>> Received: from vps.qoid.us (127.0.0.1)
> >>> by vps.qoid.us with SMTP; 14 Jun 2018 18:48:04 -
> >>> Delivered-To: agn-agora-offic...@agoranomic.org
> >>> Received: (qmail 25977 invoked from network); 14 Jun 2018 18:48:02
> -
> >>> Received: from mxout21.s.uw.edu (140.142.32.139)
> >>>by vps.qoid.us with SMTP; 14 Jun 2018 18:48:02 -
> >>> Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu
> >>> [140.142.234.163])
> >>>by mxout21.s.uw.edu (8.14.4+UW14.03/8.14.4+UW16.03) with ESMTP id
> >>>w5EIlNUY013073
> >>>(version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256
> >>> verify=OK)
> >>>for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2018 11:47:23
> -0700
> >>> X-Auth-Received: from hymn01.u.washington.edu (hymn01.u.washington.edu
> >>>[140.142.9.110]) (authenticated authid=mailadm)
> >>>by smtp.washington.edu (8.14.4+UW14.03/8.14.4+UW16.03) with ESMTP
> id
> >>>w5EIlNOo032150
> >>>(version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT)
> >>>for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2018 11:47:23
> -0700
> >>> X-UW-Orig-Sender: mail...@smtp.washington.edu
> >>> X-Auth-Received: from [161.55.36.23] by hymn01.u.washington.edu via
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> >>>Thu, 14 Jun 2018 11:47:23 PDT
> >>> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 11:47:23 -0700 (PDT)
> >>> From: Kerim Aydin 
> >>> To: Agora Official 
> >>> Message-ID: <
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> >>> User-Agent: Web Alpine 2.01 (LRH 1302 2010-07-20)
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> >>> Antispam-Data: 2018.6.14.183916, AntiVirus-Engine: 5.49.1,
> >>> AntiVirus-Data:
> >>> 2018.4.20.5491003
> >>> X-PMX-Server: mxe29.s.uw.edu
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> __HAS_FROM
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> >>> __HAS_LIST_SUBSCRIBE 0,
> >>>   __HAS_LIST_UNSUBSCRIBE 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __HAS_REPLYTO 0,
> >>> __INVOICE_MULTILINGUAL 0, __LINES_OF_YELLING 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0,
> >>> __MIME_TEXT_P 0, __MIME_TEXT_P1 0,
> >>>   __MIME_VERSION 0, __NO_HTML_TAG_RAW 0, __SANE_MSGID 0,
> >>> __STOCK_PHRASE_24 0, __SUBJ_ALPHA_NEGATE 0, __TO_MALFORMED_2 0,
> __TO_NAME
> >>> 0, __TO_NAME_DIFF_FROM_ACC 0,
> >>>   __TO_REAL_NAMES 0, __USER_AGENT 0
> >>> Subject: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 8050-8052
> >>> X-BeenThere: agora-offic...@agoranomic.org
> >>> X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22
> >>> Precedence: list
> >>> List-Id: "Agora Nomic reports, etc. \(PF\)"
> >>>  
> 
> >>> List-Unsubsc

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

[Timon Walshe-Grey]

Not sure if this helps, but I sent a test email to Official on Friday to try 
and narrow down the problem. It hasn't even showed up in the list at 
mail-archive.com, let alone been delivered to anybody.

-twg
​​

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐

On June 16, 2018 11:22 PM, Aris Merchant  
wrote:

> ​​
> 
> Okay, anyone using gmail didn't receive it. However, this can't just be
> 
> gmail's fault, because plenty of people who aren't using gmail also haven't
> 
> received it. I'm quite confused. It would be great if those who have
> 
> received the messages could look at the headers and see if anything looks
> 
> different from pre-problem OFF and the other lists, because this is just
> 
> weird.
> 
> -Aris
> 
> On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 4:17 PM Ned Strange edwardostra...@gmail.com
> 
> wrote:
> 
> > same
> > 
> > On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 12:41 AM, ATMunn iamingodsa...@gmail.com wrote:
> > 
> > > The original message? No, I haven't received it.
> > > 
> > > On 6/15/2018 4:45 PM, Aris Merchant wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Poll: Who has and hasn't received the email? Please reply, and we'll use
> > > > 
> > > > the honor system.
> > > > 
> > > > -Aris
> > > > 
> > > > On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 1:43 PM Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu
> > > > 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Aris Merchant wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Oops. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that one has been resolved. I retract my
> > > > > 
> > > > > prior
> > > > > 
> > > > > > CFJ, and CFJ "Proposal 8050 has been resolved."
> > > > > 
> > > > > Gratuitous: The email in question was delivered to my own inbox via
> > > > > 
> > > > > the
> > > 
> > > > > list
> > > > > 
> > > > > reasonably quickly after I sent it. I'm including the full headers
> > > > > 
> > > > > below
> > > 
> > > > > in
> > > > > 
> > > > > case it helps interpret anything:
> > > > > 
> > > > > Return-Path: agora-official-boun...@agoranomic.org
> > > > > 
> > > > > Received: via tmail-2007f.22 (invoked by user kerim) for
> > > > > 
> > > > > kerim+mail/agora;
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thu, 14 Jun 2018 11:48:17 -0700 (PDT)
> > > > > 
> > > > > Received: from mxe29.s.uw.edu (mxe29.s.uw.edu [173.250.227.18])
> > > > > 
> > > > > by cg04.u.washington.edu (8.14.4+UW14.03/8.14.4+UW16.03) with
> > > > > 
> > > > > ESMTP
> > > 
> > > > > id w5EImGAx024904
> > > > > 
> > > > > for ke...@kerim.deskmail.washington.edu; Thu, 14 Jun 2018
> > > > > 
> > > > > 11:48:16
> > > > > 
> > > > > -0700
> > > > > 
> > > > > Received: from vps.qoid.us ([71.19.146.223])
> > > > > 
> > > > > by mxe29.s.uw.edu (8.14.4+UW14.03/8.14.4+UW16.03) with SMTP id
> > > > > 
> > > > > w5EIm5nl013556
> > > > > 
> > > > > for ke...@u.washington.edu; Thu, 14 Jun 2018 11:48:05 -0700
> > > > > 
> > > > > Received: (qmail 25986 invoked from network); 14 Jun 2018 18:48:04
> > > > > 
> > > > > -
> > > 
> > > > > Received: from vps.qoid.us (127.0.0.1)
> > > > > 
> > > > > by vps.qoid.us with SMTP; 14 Jun 2018 18:48:04 -
> > > > > 
> > > > > Delivered-To: agn-agora-offic...@agoranomic.org
> > > > > 
> > > > > Received: (qmail 25977 invoked from network); 14 Jun 2018 18:48:02
> > > > > 
> > > > > -
> > > 
> > > > > Received: from mxout21.s.uw.edu (140.142.32.139)
> > > > > 
> > > > > by vps.qoid.us with SMTP; 14 Jun 2018 18:48:02 -
> > > > > 
> > > > > Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu
> > > > > 
> > > > > [140.142.234.163])
> > > > > 
> > > > > by mxout21.s.uw.edu (8.14.4+UW14.03/8.14.4+UW16.03) with ESMTP id
> > > > > 
> > > > > w5EIlNUY013073
> > > > > 
> > > > > (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256
> > > > > 
> > > > > verify=OK)
> > > > > 
> > > > > for agora-offic...@agoranomic.org; Thu, 14 Jun 2018 11:47:23
> > > > > 
> > > > > -0700
> > > 
> > > > > X-Auth-Received: from hymn01.u.washington.edu (hymn01.u.washington.edu
> > > > > 
> > > > > [140.142.9.110]) (authenticated authid=mailadm)
> > > > > 
> > > > > by smtp.washington.edu (8.14.4+UW14.03/8.14.4+UW16.03) with ESMTP
> > > > > 
> > > > > id
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Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

[ATMunn]

Well, my email address is a gmail one, but I'm using Thunderbird to view 
the emails. If it's a problem with Gmail, then it's a problem with 
Google's servers, not the client.


On 6/16/2018 7:22 PM, Aris Merchant wrote:

Okay, anyone using gmail didn't receive it. However, this can't just be
gmail's fault, because plenty of people who aren't using gmail also haven't
received it. I'm quite confused. It would be great if those who have
received the messages could look at the headers and see if anything looks
different from pre-problem OFF and the other lists, because this is just
weird.

-Aris

On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 4:17 PM Ned Strange 
wrote:


same

On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 12:41 AM, ATMunn  wrote:

The original message? No, I haven't received it.

On 6/15/2018 4:45 PM, Aris Merchant wrote:


Poll: Who has and hasn't received the email? Please reply, and we'll use
the honor system.

-Aris

On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 1:43 PM Kerim Aydin 
wrote:




On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Aris Merchant wrote:


Oops. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that one has been resolved. I retract my


prior


CFJ, and CFJ "Proposal 8050 has been resolved."



Gratuitous:  The email in question was delivered to my own inbox via

the

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Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

[ATMunn]

I did the same. I asked for people to respond if it was received, and 
there were no responses. In fact, I normally receive a copy of my own 
messages, and I didn't with this one.


On 6/17/2018 3:09 AM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote:

Not sure if this helps, but I sent a test email to Official on Friday to try 
and narrow down the problem. It hasn't even showed up in the list at 
mail-archive.com, let alone been delivered to anybody.

-twg
​​

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐

On June 16, 2018 11:22 PM, Aris Merchant  
wrote:


​​

Okay, anyone using gmail didn't receive it. However, this can't just be

gmail's fault, because plenty of people who aren't using gmail also haven't

received it. I'm quite confused. It would be great if those who have

received the messages could look at the headers and see if anything looks

different from pre-problem OFF and the other lists, because this is just

weird.

-Aris

On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 4:17 PM Ned Strange edwardostra...@gmail.com

wrote:


same

On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 12:41 AM, ATMunn iamingodsa...@gmail.com wrote:


The original message? No, I haven't received it.

On 6/15/2018 4:45 PM, Aris Merchant wrote:


Poll: Who has and hasn't received the email? Please reply, and we'll use

the honor system.

-Aris

On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 1:43 PM Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu

wrote:


On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Aris Merchant wrote:


Oops. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that one has been resolved. I retract my


prior


CFJ, and CFJ "Proposal 8050 has been resolved."


Gratuitous: The email in question was delivered to my own inbox via

the



list

reasonably quickly after I sent it. I'm including the full headers

below



in

case it helps interpret anything:

Return-Path: agora-official-boun...@agoranomic.org

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kerim+mail/agora;

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Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge handoff to Notary

[Reuben Staley]

I'm assuming this is the location to complain about a-o being messed up. 
I've been out of town and haven't read through this thread really well.


I cannot log into the a-o private archives. Every time I try to, it just 
takes me to the login screen again. It works with a-b and a-d though.


On 6/17/2018 7:30 AM, ATMunn wrote:
I did the same. I asked for people to respond if it was received, and 
there were no responses. In fact, I normally receive a copy of my own 
messages, and I didn't with this one.


On 6/17/2018 3:09 AM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote:
Not sure if this helps, but I sent a test email to Official on Friday 
to try and narrow down the problem. It hasn't even showed up in the 
list at mail-archive.com, let alone been delivered to anybody.


-twg
​​

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐

On June 16, 2018 11:22 PM, Aris Merchant 
 wrote:



​​

Okay, anyone using gmail didn't receive it. However, this can't just be

gmail's fault, because plenty of people who aren't using gmail also 
haven't


received it. I'm quite confused. It would be great if those who have

received the messages could look at the headers and see if anything 
looks


different from pre-problem OFF and the other lists, because this is just

weird.

-Aris

On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 4:17 PM Ned Strange edwardostra...@gmail.com

wrote:


same

On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 12:41 AM, ATMunn iamingodsa...@gmail.com wrote:


The original message? No, I haven't received it.

On 6/15/2018 4:45 PM, Aris Merchant wrote:

Poll: Who has and hasn't received the email? Please reply, and 
we'll use


the honor system.

-Aris

On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 1:43 PM Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu

wrote:


On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Aris Merchant wrote:

Oops. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that one has been resolved. I 
retract my


prior


CFJ, and CFJ "Proposal 8050 has been resolved."


Gratuitous: The email in question was delivered to my own inbox via

the



list

reasonably quickly after I sent it. I'm including the full headers

below



in

case it helps interpret anything:

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