DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Protect Assets

2011-08-01 Thread Charles Walker
On 31 July 2011 23:54, Charles Reiss  wrote:
> Set the power of rule 2166 (Assets) to 3.
>
> [Rationale: promises are assets at Power 3, so the defining rule needs
> to be, too.]

Why?

-- 
Charles Walker


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Protect Assets

2011-08-01 Thread Charles Reiss
On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 08:18, Charles Walker  wrote:
> On 31 July 2011 23:54, Charles Reiss  wrote:
>> Set the power of rule 2166 (Assets) to 3.
>>
>> [Rationale: promises are assets at Power 3, so the defining rule needs
>> to be, too.]
>
> Why?

Many of the asset properties of promises don't fall naturally from the
natural-language definition, and the asset rule defines many
non-natural properties (such as sometimes-implicit transfers to the
Lost and Found Department) of promises that substantially effect their
operation. If any modification to the Asset rules would be effective
at changing the properties of Promises, then clearly that gives a
escalation scam at Power 2. If not, then the question is where that
line is -- and it probably is ambiguous (perhaps even as to how much
the generic asset rules apply now to promises), which is not so good
for the stability of the rules.

- woggle


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Protect Assets

2011-08-01 Thread omd
On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Charles Reiss  wrote:
> If any modification to the Asset rules would be effective
> at changing the properties of Promises, then clearly that gives a
> escalation scam at Power 2.

The way it's supposed to work now is a compromise: a power-2 scam
could transfer existing Promises to unintended entities, but not
fabricate them outright.  Now that I look at it, though, I think it's
buggy-- a power-2 scam could modify the text of a promise, like the
old scam with proposal text.