Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolving proposals 7859-7864

2017-06-27 Thread Kerim Aydin


On Mon, 26 Jun 2017, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Jun 2017, Aris Merchant wrote:
> > This rule last
> > appeared in the FLR here [1] and was repealed by proposal 7629,
> > distributed here [2]. I'd give you the date it was assessed, but I
> > can't find the assessment, even after much searching. I could be in
> > error, or it could be that the proposal only took effect because of
> > the ratification of the SLR (which I think was published on the
> > supposed date of its assessment)? I would appreciate some help in
> > understanding this, as it's really freaking me out.
> 
> Assessment was sent to business, not official, and had a misleading 
> subject line and was adopted out-of-order:
> 
> https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2014-April/032776.html

Oh, for completeness, the SLR published two hours after that assessment
(and containing the 7629 changes) was ratified on 1-May-14 by proposal 7638
with the following text:

> Ratify the body of the message published on 2014-04-07 titled "OFF:
> [Rulekeepor] Short Logical Ruleset".
>
> [Last one was about 8 months ago.]

So that's just coincidence.





Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolving proposals 7859-7864

2017-06-26 Thread Kerim Aydin


On Mon, 26 Jun 2017, Aris Merchant wrote:
> This rule last
> appeared in the FLR here [1] and was repealed by proposal 7629,
> distributed here [2]. I'd give you the date it was assessed, but I
> can't find the assessment, even after much searching. I could be in
> error, or it could be that the proposal only took effect because of
> the ratification of the SLR (which I think was published on the
> supposed date of its assessment)? I would appreciate some help in
> understanding this, as it's really freaking me out.

Assessment was sent to business, not official, and had a misleading 
subject line and was adopted out-of-order:

https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2014-April/032776.html





DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolving proposals 7859-7864

2017-06-26 Thread Aris Merchant
On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 8:40 PM, Gaelan Steele  wrote:
>
>> On Jun 26, 2017, at 6:34 PM, Quazie  wrote:
>>
>>
>> I resolve the decision(s) to adopt proposal(s) 7864, 7859, 7860, 7861, 7862, 
>> and 7863 as below.
>>
>> 
>>
>> [This notice resolves the Agoran decisions of whether to adopt the
>>  following proposals.  For each decision, the options available to
>>  Agora are ADOPTED (*), REJECTED (x), and FAILED QUORUM (!). If a
>>  decision's voting period is still ongoing, I end it immediately
>>  before resolving it and after resolving the previous decision.]
>>
>> ID Author(s)   AI   Title
>> 
>> *7864  Aris3.0  Assets v7
>
> Aris: do you have the history of this rule handy? As it is a reenaction, I 
> believe I am required to list the history of this rule prior to its appeal.

I dug it up for you. While I like the idea of reenactment, it might be
more fair to make the proposal's author dig up the last version of the
FLR it appeared in and the proposal that repealed it. This rule last
appeared in the FLR here [1] and was repealed by proposal 7629,
distributed here [2]. I'd give you the date it was assessed, but I
can't find the assessment, even after much searching. I could be in
error, or it could be that the proposal only took effect because of
the ratification of the SLR (which I think was published on the
supposed date of its assessment)? I would appreciate some help in
understanding this, as it's really freaking me out. In any case, the
date given in the current FLR is "Proposal 7629 (scshunt), 7 April
2014".

[1] 
https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-official/2014-February/010621.html
[2] 
https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-official/2014-March/010655.html


-Aris


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolving proposals 7859-7864

2017-06-26 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
Could you clarify this message?

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com



> On Jun 26, 2017, at 8:48 PM, Quazie  wrote:
> 
> I am sorry for formating I properly.  I'll confronted to the ruleset next 
> time.
> 
> On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 20:41 Gaelan Steele  wrote:
> 
> > On Jun 26, 2017, at 6:34 PM, Quazie  wrote:
> >
> >
> > I resolve the decision(s) to adopt proposal(s) 7864, 7859, 7860, 7861, 
> > 7862, and 7863 as below.
> >
> > 
> >
> > [This notice resolves the Agoran decisions of whether to adopt the
> >  following proposals.  For each decision, the options available to
> >  Agora are ADOPTED (*), REJECTED (x), and FAILED QUORUM (!). If a
> >  decision's voting period is still ongoing, I end it immediately
> >  before resolving it and after resolving the previous decision.]
> >
> > ID Author(s)   AI   Title
> > 
> > *7864  Aris3.0  Assets v7
> 
> Aris: do you have the history of this rule handy? As it is a reenaction, I 
> believe I am required to list the history of this rule prior to its appeal.
> 
> > *7859  Quazie  1.7  Gentle Judicial Updates
> 
> I intend to, without Objection, cause “Cleanup Time” to replace “1 -“ with 
> “1.” and so on in the rule “Recusal.”
> 
> > *7860  Quazie  1.7  Cards are power 1.7
> > x7861  Quazie  3.0  Trivia(l)
> > *7862  Quazie  1.7  Betterer Pledges
> > x7863  Quazie  1.2  Why should outsiders be able to Object?
> 
> Gaelan



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DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolving proposals 7859-7864

2017-06-26 Thread Quazie
I am sorry for formating I properly.  I'll confronted to the ruleset next
time.

On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 20:41 Gaelan Steele  wrote:

>
> > On Jun 26, 2017, at 6:34 PM, Quazie  wrote:
> >
> >
> > I resolve the decision(s) to adopt proposal(s) 7864, 7859, 7860, 7861,
> 7862, and 7863 as below.
> >
> > 
> >
> > [This notice resolves the Agoran decisions of whether to adopt the
> >  following proposals.  For each decision, the options available to
> >  Agora are ADOPTED (*), REJECTED (x), and FAILED QUORUM (!). If a
> >  decision's voting period is still ongoing, I end it immediately
> >  before resolving it and after resolving the previous decision.]
> >
> > ID Author(s)   AI   Title
> > 
> > *7864  Aris3.0  Assets v7
>
> Aris: do you have the history of this rule handy? As it is a reenaction, I
> believe I am required to list the history of this rule prior to its appeal.
>
> > *7859  Quazie  1.7  Gentle Judicial Updates
>
> I intend to, without Objection, cause “Cleanup Time” to replace “1 -“ with
> “1.” and so on in the rule “Recusal.”
>
> > *7860  Quazie  1.7  Cards are power 1.7
> > x7861  Quazie  3.0  Trivia(l)
> > *7862  Quazie  1.7  Betterer Pledges
> > x7863  Quazie  1.2  Why should outsiders be able to Object?
>
> Gaelan