Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Surveyor] June Estate Auction

[Quazie]

On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 07:16 Kerim Aydin  wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, 2 Jun 2017, Josh T wrote:
> > I place a bid on Antegria equal to my entire balance of Shinies when the
> > time of the closure of the bid.
>
> In the last few weeks, the assumptions seem to have been made that there
> is support for future conditionals in the rules.  There isn't (except for
> votes).
>
> Quazie delivered a judgement (3505), that gives very *narrow* support
> for allowing it under limited conditions, while noting that it *mostly*
> wasn't ok:
> > I agree, there's a long standing tradition (Potentially established/
> > enforced through CFJ 3381 or CFJ 2926, this information gathering is
> > left up to the reader) that future conditional actions aren't valid, and
> > I will uphold that logic for most cases.
>
> As should be obvious from the above bid, willy-nilly allowing of future
> conditions screws up a LOT of mechanics; Auctions are a prime example.
>
> At this point, I'd suggest legislation, stating that unless specified
> otherwise for specific types of actions (e.g. votes), conditionals
> must be clearly resolvable, with publicly available information, without
> unreasonable effort, at the time they are made.this
>



Feel free to make the boo agency and use my body to pen this rule.


>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Surveyor] June Estate Auction

[Josh T]

I really shouldn't be making Agora actions at 5AM before going to bed when
I can't English anyways. I tend to forget basic things.

天火狐

On 2 June 2017 at 13:48, Kerim Aydin  wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, 2 Jun 2017, Josh T wrote:
> > I retract any previous "bid" I made on the Estate of Antegria.
>
> I should say I wasn't picking on you specifically; I think I noticed
> a couple other attempts like this recently :).
>
>
>
>

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Surveyor] June Estate Auction

[Kerim Aydin]

On Fri, 2 Jun 2017, Josh T wrote:
> I retract any previous "bid" I made on the Estate of Antegria.

I should say I wasn't picking on you specifically; I think I noticed
a couple other attempts like this recently :).

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Surveyor] June Estate Auction

[Kerim Aydin]

On Fri, 2 Jun 2017, Josh T wrote:
> I place a bid on Antegria equal to my entire balance of Shinies when the 
> time of the closure of the bid.

In the last few weeks, the assumptions seem to have been made that there 
is support for future conditionals in the rules.  There isn't (except for
votes).

Quazie delivered a judgement (3505), that gives very *narrow* support
for allowing it under limited conditions, while noting that it *mostly*
wasn't ok:
> I agree, there's a long standing tradition (Potentially established/
> enforced through CFJ 3381 or CFJ 2926, this information gathering is
> left up to the reader) that future conditional actions aren't valid, and
> I will uphold that logic for most cases.

As should be obvious from the above bid, willy-nilly allowing of future
conditions screws up a LOT of mechanics; Auctions are a prime example.

At this point, I'd suggest legislation, stating that unless specified
otherwise for specific types of actions (e.g. votes), conditionals 
must be clearly resolvable, with publicly available information, without
unreasonable effort, at the time they are made.