DIS: Re: BUS: Tradition, by

2008-09-20 Thread ais523
On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 16:09 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote:
 This I the a CFJ. statement: is on CFJ 
There is no CFJ with the text This is a statement, so this lacks
sufficient information to be effective, as far as I can tell.
-- 
ais523


DIS: Re: BUS: Tradition, by

2008-09-17 Thread Zefram
Kerim Aydin wrote:
This I the a CFJ. statement: is on CFJ 

Not an obvious transformation from plain English, so not a reasonable
synonym for anything.  Random shuffling of words is a patently
unreasonable form of communication.

-zefram


DIS: Re: BUS: Tradition, by

2008-09-17 Thread Elliott Hird
2008/9/17 Kerim Aydin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 This I the a CFJ. statement: is on CFJ

 -Goethe

The messages you send are a template describing actions, these
actions all happen at the same time without ordering.

Imagine a programming language that runs all the program's statements
at the same time. That doesn't mean you can just shuffle up the program
source, though, you'll get a syntax error.


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Tradition, by

2008-09-17 Thread Kerim Aydin

On Wed, 17 Sep 2008, Elliott Hird wrote:
 2008/9/17 Kerim Aydin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 This I the a CFJ. statement: is on CFJ

 -Goethe

 The messages you send are a template describing actions, these
 actions all happen at the same time without ordering.

 Imagine a programming language that runs all the program's statements
 at the same time. That doesn't mean you can just shuffle up the program
 source, though, you'll get a syntax error.

Not supported by the rules.  A message is an arbitrary string of text
delivered to a forum.  What you are admitting here is that, despite having
the same time-date stamp, we can't regard the message simultaneously
but must impose an order in the words.

Deciding to order words left to right, up to down (legitimate: CFJs 1267-1271) 
etc. is an arbitrary convention, which we by English custom follow a certain 
order to avoid the ambiguity (R754.1).  Of course my CFJ fails.  I was 
merely illustrating that the concept of ordered but with the same time stamp 
is one we use every day in Agora, even without legislation mandating it, and, 
in the absence of legislation, there is nothing against the rules with using 
the same common English ordering principle to separate complete statements, 
sentences, or actions as occurring in the sequence in which you would 
naturally read them on a page.

-Goethe





Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Tradition, by

2008-09-17 Thread Ed Murphy
Zefram wrote:

 Kerim Aydin wrote:
 This I the a CFJ. statement: is on CFJ 
 
 Not an obvious transformation from plain English, so not a reasonable
 synonym for anything.  Random shuffling of words is a patently
 unreasonable form of communication.

I actually interpreted it as a reasonably clear shuffling of I CFJ on
the statement: This is a CFJ., especially given recent context.



Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Tradition, by

2008-09-17 Thread Kerim Aydin

On Wed, 17 Sep 2008, Ed Murphy wrote:
 Zefram wrote:

 Kerim Aydin wrote:
 This I the a CFJ. statement: is on CFJ

 Not an obvious transformation from plain English, so not a reasonable
 synonym for anything.  Random shuffling of words is a patently
 unreasonable form of communication.

 I actually interpreted it as a reasonably clear shuffling of I CFJ on
 the statement: This is a CFJ., especially given recent context.

Heh, I thought it was pretty darn clear actually :).   -G.