DIS: Re: BUS: bank merger
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > I become a party to the RBoA. (I may have already been a party. The > Notary website says I am but it also says BobTHJ is.) Hmm... since when has Bankership not been restricted to aristocrats?
DIS: Re: BUS: bank merger
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Taral wrote: > I disapprove this Motion. Find a better disposition of the assets than > an inflationary bank system. Well, yeah, the proposal to fix the PBA should really come before this part of my evil 2-part plan. This part has the benefit of being the easy part.
DIS: Re: BUS: bank merger
On 22 Jan 2009, at 19:41, Taral wrote: I disapprove this Motion. Find a better disposition of the assets than an inflationary bank system. And the RBoA doesn't meet this definition why? "We can pass a hack motion to fix the rates"? You can do that in the PBA too.
DIS: Re: BUS: bank merger
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Benjamin Schultz wrote: > If Wooble's motion of 22 Jan 2009 is approved, then immediately after the > change in exchange rates but before any other actions involving the RBoA > happen, I withdraw as much of the RBoA's assets as I can. I'm fairly certain such conditional scheduled actions don't work in Agora.
DIS: Re: BUS: bank merger
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Benjamin Schultz wrote: > I publish the following conditional action: > > If Wooble's motion of 22 Jan 2009 is approved, then immediately after the > change in exchange rates but before any other actions involving the RBoA > happen, I withdraw as much of the RBoA's assets as I can. I publish the following conditional action: If the above action worked, I create 100,000 coins in my possession.
DIS: Re: BUS: bank merger
On 23/01/2009, Benjamin Schultz wrote: > On Jan 22, 2009, at 11:40 AM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > >> I become a party to the RBoA. (I may have already been a party. The >> Notary website says I am but it also says BobTHJ is.) >> >> I post the following Bank Motion: >> {{ >> Set the Exchange Rate for every currency to 0. >> >> Deposit all assets held by the Bank except Coins in the People's >> Bank of Agora. >> >> Distribute all coins held by the Bank to the holders of Chits, >> proportionally to their Chit holdings. >> }} >> >> I approve this Motion >> >> I intend, without 3 Objections, to terminate the RBoA agreement. I >> pledge to not do so unless the above Motion is carried out. > > > I disapprove this Motion, if doing so carries any weight. > > I object to terminating the RBoA agreement. > > I publish the following conditional action: > > If Wooble's motion of 22 Jan 2009 is approved, then immediately after > the change in exchange rates but before any other actions involving > the RBoA happen, I withdraw as much of the RBoA's assets as I can. > - > Benjamin Schultz KE3OM > OscarMeyr > No recordkeepor/court worth eir salt would treat this as effective.
DIS: Re: BUS: bank merger
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Benjamin Schultz wrote: > If Wooble's motion of 22 Jan 2009 is approved, then immediately after the > change in exchange rates but before any other actions involving the RBoA > happen, I withdraw as much of the RBoA's assets as I can. Uh, no. This is *not* B Nomic. -- Taral "Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you." -- Unknown
DIS: Re: BUS: bank merger
terminate it now? On 24/01/2009, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Geoffrey Spear > wrote: >> I post the following Bank Motion: >> {{ >> Set the Exchange Rate for every currency to 0. >> >> Deposit all assets held by the Bank except Coins in the People's Bank of >> Agora. >> >> Distribute all coins held by the Bank to the holders of Chits, >> proportionally to their Chit holdings. >> }} > > I RBoA-deposit 16 2 crops. > > I resolve the above motion. > > votes were: > Approved: > ehird (3 chits) > Wooble (2410 chits) > total: 2413 chits > > Disapproved: > Taral (2223 chits) > OscarMeyr (48 chits) > total: 2271 chits > > The motion carries. > > The RBoA deposits in the PBA: > 16 2 crops (+ ^792) > 8 8 crops (+ ^60) > 25 9 crops (+ ^66) > 12 X crops (+ ^594) > 56 vote points (+ ^15) > > leaving the RBoA with 1704 coins > > There are 11167 Chits outstanding, which means that each holds of > chits should receive 1 coin for each ~6.55 chits e holds. This works > out as: > AFO: ^109 > ais523: ^102 > Bayes: ^23 > BobTHJ: ^343 > comex: ^7 > ehird: ^0 > Murphy: ^29 > OscarMeyr: ^7 > Pavitra: ^206 > PNP: ^15 > Protection Racket: ^40 > Quazie: ^103 > Taral: ^339 > Warrigal: ^0 > woggle: ^13 > Wooble: ^368 >
DIS: Re: BUS: bank merger
On 24 Jan 2009, at 01:54, Geoffrey Spear wrote: AFO: ^109 ais523: ^102 Bayes: ^23 BobTHJ: ^343 comex: ^7 ehird: ^0 Murphy: ^29 OscarMeyr: ^7 Pavitra: ^206 PNP: ^15 Protection Racket: ^40 Quazie: ^103 Taral: ^339 Warrigal: ^0 woggle: ^13 Wooble: ^368 CoE: Not all of these are Comrades, so some of this distribution failed.
DIS: Re: BUS: bank merger
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 9:35 PM, comex wrote: > I withdraw as many VP as possible. I believe this is 6, for ^15, leaving you with ^3 > The AFO withdraws as many VP as possible. As ehird pointed out, the AFO is not a Comrade so it can't receive coins, so this is 0.
DIS: RE: BUS: bank merger
OscarMeyr wroet: > If Wooble's motion of 22 Jan 2009 is approved, then immediately after > the change in exchange rates but before any other actions involving > the RBoA happen, I withdraw as much of the RBoA's assets as I can. I don't think such timed actions work in Agora. B used to have them, and they caused all sorts of problems there, but that precise a timing wouldn't have worked in B even when the rule existed, and it has since been repealed there. -- ais523 <>
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: bank merger
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 10:02 AM, comex wrote: > Hmm... since when has Bankership not been restricted to aristocrats? Since Bank Motions were instituted. -- Taral "Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you." -- Unknown
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: bank merger
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Elliott Hird wrote: > And the RBoA doesn't meet this definition why? "We can pass a hack motion > to fix the rates"? You can do that in the PBA too. Then do so. -- Taral "Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you." -- Unknown
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: bank merger
On 22 Jan 2009, at 21:30, Taral wrote: Then do so. Except it's better to tweak the algorithm, which woggle already protoed in ##nomic. It's a matter of figuring out what will guard against it best.
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: bank merger
On 24 Jan 2009, at 14:30, Elliott Hird wrote: CoE: Not all of these are Comrades, so some of this distribution failed. So did it all fail or just those...?
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: bank merger
On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Elliott Hird wrote: >> CoE: Not all of these are Comrades, so some of this distribution failed. > So did it all fail or just those...? Those coins are still held by the RBoA.
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: bank merger
On Jan 22, 2009, at 10:59 PM, Taral wrote: On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Benjamin Schultz wrote: If Wooble's motion of 22 Jan 2009 is approved, then immediately after the change in exchange rates but before any other actions involving the RBoA happen, I withdraw as much of the RBoA's assets as I can. Uh, no. This is *not* B Nomic. I didn't think it would work, but I figured it was worth a shot. - Benjamin Schultz KE3OM OscarMeyr