DIS: Re: BUS: bank merger
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > I become a party to the RBoA. (I may have already been a party. The > Notary website says I am but it also says BobTHJ is.) Hmm... since when has Bankership not been restricted to aristocrats?
DIS: Re: BUS: bank merger
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Taral wrote: > I disapprove this Motion. Find a better disposition of the assets than > an inflationary bank system. Well, yeah, the proposal to fix the PBA should really come before this part of my evil 2-part plan. This part has the benefit of being the easy part.
DIS: Re: BUS: bank merger
On 22 Jan 2009, at 19:41, Taral wrote: I disapprove this Motion. Find a better disposition of the assets than an inflationary bank system. And the RBoA doesn't meet this definition why? "We can pass a hack motion to fix the rates"? You can do that in the PBA too.
DIS: Re: BUS: bank merger
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Benjamin Schultz wrote: > If Wooble's motion of 22 Jan 2009 is approved, then immediately after the > change in exchange rates but before any other actions involving the RBoA > happen, I withdraw as much of the RBoA's assets as I can. I'm fairly certain such conditional scheduled actions don't work in Agora.
DIS: Re: BUS: bank merger
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Benjamin Schultz wrote: > I publish the following conditional action: > > If Wooble's motion of 22 Jan 2009 is approved, then immediately after the > change in exchange rates but before any other actions involving the RBoA > happen, I withdraw as much of the RBoA's assets as I can. I publish the following conditional action: If the above action worked, I create 100,000 coins in my possession.
DIS: Re: BUS: bank merger
On 23/01/2009, Benjamin Schultz wrote:
> On Jan 22, 2009, at 11:40 AM, Geoffrey Spear wrote:
>
>> I become a party to the RBoA. (I may have already been a party. The
>> Notary website says I am but it also says BobTHJ is.)
>>
>> I post the following Bank Motion:
>> {{
>> Set the Exchange Rate for every currency to 0.
>>
>> Deposit all assets held by the Bank except Coins in the People's
>> Bank of Agora.
>>
>> Distribute all coins held by the Bank to the holders of Chits,
>> proportionally to their Chit holdings.
>> }}
>>
>> I approve this Motion
>>
>> I intend, without 3 Objections, to terminate the RBoA agreement. I
>> pledge to not do so unless the above Motion is carried out.
>
>
> I disapprove this Motion, if doing so carries any weight.
>
> I object to terminating the RBoA agreement.
>
> I publish the following conditional action:
>
> If Wooble's motion of 22 Jan 2009 is approved, then immediately after
> the change in exchange rates but before any other actions involving
> the RBoA happen, I withdraw as much of the RBoA's assets as I can.
> -
> Benjamin Schultz KE3OM
> OscarMeyr
>
No recordkeepor/court worth eir salt would treat this as effective.
DIS: Re: BUS: bank merger
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Benjamin Schultz wrote: > If Wooble's motion of 22 Jan 2009 is approved, then immediately after the > change in exchange rates but before any other actions involving the RBoA > happen, I withdraw as much of the RBoA's assets as I can. Uh, no. This is *not* B Nomic. -- Taral "Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you." -- Unknown
DIS: Re: BUS: bank merger
terminate it now?
On 24/01/2009, Geoffrey Spear wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Geoffrey Spear
> wrote:
>> I post the following Bank Motion:
>> {{
>> Set the Exchange Rate for every currency to 0.
>>
>> Deposit all assets held by the Bank except Coins in the People's Bank of
>> Agora.
>>
>> Distribute all coins held by the Bank to the holders of Chits,
>> proportionally to their Chit holdings.
>> }}
>
> I RBoA-deposit 16 2 crops.
>
> I resolve the above motion.
>
> votes were:
> Approved:
> ehird (3 chits)
> Wooble (2410 chits)
> total: 2413 chits
>
> Disapproved:
> Taral (2223 chits)
> OscarMeyr (48 chits)
> total: 2271 chits
>
> The motion carries.
>
> The RBoA deposits in the PBA:
> 16 2 crops (+ ^792)
> 8 8 crops (+ ^60)
> 25 9 crops (+ ^66)
> 12 X crops (+ ^594)
> 56 vote points (+ ^15)
>
> leaving the RBoA with 1704 coins
>
> There are 11167 Chits outstanding, which means that each holds of
> chits should receive 1 coin for each ~6.55 chits e holds. This works
> out as:
> AFO: ^109
> ais523: ^102
> Bayes: ^23
> BobTHJ: ^343
> comex: ^7
> ehird: ^0
> Murphy: ^29
> OscarMeyr: ^7
> Pavitra: ^206
> PNP: ^15
> Protection Racket: ^40
> Quazie: ^103
> Taral: ^339
> Warrigal: ^0
> woggle: ^13
> Wooble: ^368
>
DIS: Re: BUS: bank merger
On 24 Jan 2009, at 01:54, Geoffrey Spear wrote: AFO: ^109 ais523: ^102 Bayes: ^23 BobTHJ: ^343 comex: ^7 ehird: ^0 Murphy: ^29 OscarMeyr: ^7 Pavitra: ^206 PNP: ^15 Protection Racket: ^40 Quazie: ^103 Taral: ^339 Warrigal: ^0 woggle: ^13 Wooble: ^368 CoE: Not all of these are Comrades, so some of this distribution failed.
DIS: Re: BUS: bank merger
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 9:35 PM, comex wrote: > I withdraw as many VP as possible. I believe this is 6, for ^15, leaving you with ^3 > The AFO withdraws as many VP as possible. As ehird pointed out, the AFO is not a Comrade so it can't receive coins, so this is 0.
DIS: RE: BUS: bank merger
OscarMeyr wroet: > If Wooble's motion of 22 Jan 2009 is approved, then immediately after > the change in exchange rates but before any other actions involving > the RBoA happen, I withdraw as much of the RBoA's assets as I can. I don't think such timed actions work in Agora. B used to have them, and they caused all sorts of problems there, but that precise a timing wouldn't have worked in B even when the rule existed, and it has since been repealed there. -- ais523 <>
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: bank merger
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 10:02 AM, comex wrote: > Hmm... since when has Bankership not been restricted to aristocrats? Since Bank Motions were instituted. -- Taral "Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you." -- Unknown
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: bank merger
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Elliott Hird wrote: > And the RBoA doesn't meet this definition why? "We can pass a hack motion > to fix the rates"? You can do that in the PBA too. Then do so. -- Taral "Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you." -- Unknown
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: bank merger
On 22 Jan 2009, at 21:30, Taral wrote: Then do so. Except it's better to tweak the algorithm, which woggle already protoed in ##nomic. It's a matter of figuring out what will guard against it best.
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: bank merger
On 24 Jan 2009, at 14:30, Elliott Hird wrote: CoE: Not all of these are Comrades, so some of this distribution failed. So did it all fail or just those...?
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: bank merger
On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Elliott Hird wrote: >> CoE: Not all of these are Comrades, so some of this distribution failed. > So did it all fail or just those...? Those coins are still held by the RBoA.
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: bank merger
On Jan 22, 2009, at 10:59 PM, Taral wrote: On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Benjamin Schultz wrote: If Wooble's motion of 22 Jan 2009 is approved, then immediately after the change in exchange rates but before any other actions involving the RBoA happen, I withdraw as much of the RBoA's assets as I can. Uh, no. This is *not* B Nomic. I didn't think it would work, but I figured it was worth a shot. - Benjamin Schultz KE3OM OscarMeyr
