Re: DIS: Re: BUS: general objection

2020-06-25 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/24/20 9:51 PM, omd via agora-discussion wrote:
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>> On Jun 24, 2020, at 6:55 AM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business 
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>> I object to any and all intents to declare apathy.
> But does this adequately identify the intents being objected to?
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> (I think there might have been a CFJ along those lines in the past.)

I don't think "any" would be but "all" seems unambiguous.

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Re: DIS: Re: BUS: general objection

2020-06-25 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion


On 6/24/2020 7:51 PM, omd via agora-discussion wrote:
>> On Jun 24, 2020, at 6:55 AM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote:
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>> I object to any and all intents to declare apathy.
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> But does this adequately identify the intents being objected to?
> 
> (I think there might have been a CFJ along those lines in the past.)
> 

It's been used regularly for a long time and there's old CFJs.  I remember
judging one around, er, before 2010 anyway, but my judgement was just
citing older ones, I'll go look (don't remember enough context to find it
instantly).

But just on general principles I don't see why it wouldn't there aren't
particularly strong specificity about supporting/objecting such that "all
of [a reasonably well-defined class of intent]" wouldn't do the trick.
In fact, R2124, using the "publicly posted" as a method descriptor instead
of "by announcement", bypasses *any* explicit standard for clarity or
specificity.

(I remember saying something in the CFJ like that it makes sense for there
to be a lower standard, because it's better to error on the side of
caution when proposing the intent, but to error on the side of
inclusiveness during the supporting/objecting).

On that note:  We added "without obfuscation" and "conspicuously" to the
dependency intent requirements in R2595 last year.  IMO an intent that
clearly hides the *message* (i.e. designed to trigger spam filters) would
count as "an obfuscation" and/or not be "conspicuous", anyway.

-G.



DIS: Re: BUS: general objection

2020-06-24 Thread omd via agora-discussion



> On Jun 24, 2020, at 6:55 AM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business 
>  wrote:
> 
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> I object to any and all intents to declare apathy.

But does this adequately identify the intents being objected to?

(I think there might have been a CFJ along those lines in the past.)

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: general objection

2020-06-24 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion


I had it in mine for a bit the last time a rash of these broke out.

On 6/24/2020 6:57 AM, Ed Strange via agora-discussion wrote:
> (trigon, put this in your signature)
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> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 11:56 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-business <
> agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
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>> I object to any and all intents to declare apathy.
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>> -G.
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DIS: Re: BUS: general objection

2020-06-24 Thread Ed Strange via agora-discussion
(trigon, put this in your signature)

On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 11:56 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:

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> I object to any and all intents to declare apathy.
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> -G.
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>

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