DIS: Re: BUS: proposal: fix switch definitions

2007-08-17 Thread Ian Kelly
On 8/17/07, Zefram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   To flip an instance of a switch to a particular value is to
   make that switch come to have that value (regardless of what the
   switch's value was previously).  To become X, where X is a
   possible value of exactly one of the subject's switches, is to
   have that switch change value to X from some other value.

 [Become refers to a change in switch value, not the action of
 changing it (which is what flip is).  Explicate for both definitions
 whether a null change counts.]

So I become active will no longer be an acceptable variant of I
flip my activity to active?

-root


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: proposal: fix switch definitions

2007-08-17 Thread Peekee

or I'm flip'in active?

Quoting Ian Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


On 8/17/07, Zefram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  To flip an instance of a switch to a particular value is to
  make that switch come to have that value (regardless of what the
  switch's value was previously).  To become X, where X is a
  possible value of exactly one of the subject's switches, is to
  have that switch change value to X from some other value.

[Become refers to a change in switch value, not the action of
changing it (which is what flip is).  Explicate for both definitions
whether a null change counts.]


So I become active will no longer be an acceptable variant of I
flip my activity to active?

-root





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Peekee


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: proposal: fix switch definitions

2007-08-17 Thread Zefram
Ian Kelly wrote:
So I become active will no longer be an acceptable variant of I
flip my activity to active?

I think it would reasonably imply that you are flipping your activity.
To say I make myself active would be a more direct synonym of I
flip my activity to active, and it's clearer when interpreted as plain
English too.

-zefram


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: proposal: fix switch definitions

2007-08-17 Thread Zefram
Ian Kelly wrote:
also argue thet I make myself active is closer in meaning to I
become active than to I flip my activity to active.

I find that a strange assertion.  I become active says nothing about
the means by which one becomes active, whereas both of the others are
explicit that one is performing an action on oneself.

-zefram