On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 10:46 AM Aris Merchant via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 5:43 PM Rebecca via agora-official <
> agora-offic...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> > CFJ 3834 asks whether or not "In a generic Agoran context, to refer a
> > proposal to a chamber is
> > to set its chamber switch to that chamber."
> >
> > This CFJ has a very odd statement. Generic means not specific, separated
> > from an individual thing and instead relating to a certain group or
> class.
> > So a generic Agoran context relates to Agora as a concept, rather than a
> > specific action or time period. This poses a problem for answering the
> > question that Aris actually meant, which is basically whether or not e
> can
> > use the referral shorthand without defining it in future reports. I will
> > answer the CFJ statement as written rather than attempting to ignore or
> > rewrite it.
> >
> > It's clear to me that there is nothing inherent about "Agoran context"
> that
> > transmutes the first phrase into the second one. Both phrases would have
> > been meaningless in Agoran context until recent changes in the rules.
> > Anyway, the standard for making a by-announcement action is ambiguity. We
> > can't make a generic or categorical judgement about the ambiguity of any
> > specific phrase, but we can judge the ambiguity through context and other
> > factors of any action that is actually attempted (or even hypothesized).
> >
> > I judge this CFJ FALSE. In a generic Agoran context, the first phrase
> would
> > have its ordinary meaning or none at all. Only specific context and rules
> > (which may or may not exist here) could allow the first phrase to
> > unambiguously mean the second.
>
>
>
> Fair! I'll come up with a more precisely worded CFJ statement when I have a
> chance. I thank the honorable judge for eir ruling.
>
> -Aris
>
> >
> >
>
In my entirely advisory personal opinion (well CFJs are technically
advisory but we tend to treat them as though possessing legal force)
"refer" is just fine. I don't even think it is jargon, its meaning is very
similar and understandable to new and old players to the action taken.
--
>From R. Lee
