DIS: Rule 1868 Paradox

2007-01-26 Thread Jacob Sutton
Ed Murphy wrote:
   
  Jacob Sutton wrote:

 Rule 1868 states that a CFJ is open if it has not been judged and 
closed 
if it is not open
So, if a case has been judged, there is no rule keeping it from still 
being considered open.

Correct.  So it's not open.  (Assuming it also doesn't have any
outstanding motions.)

Just because it is open before it's judged doesn't mean that's the only time 
it's open.



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Re: DIS: Rule 1868 Paradox

2007-01-26 Thread Jacob Sutton


Kerim Aydin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  

Jacob Sutton wrote:
 Just because it is open before it's judged doesn't mean that's 
 the only time it's open.

Check out CFJ 1575:
http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=1575





 I guess that case could be reopened, then.


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and faith. We have faith that they are pink; we logically know that they are 
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Re: DIS: Rule 1868 Paradox

2007-01-26 Thread Ed Murphy

Jacob Sutton wrote:


Ed Murphy wrote:
 
 Jacob Sutton wrote:


  Rule 1868 states that a CFJ is open if it has not been judged and
 closed
 if it is not open
 So, if a case has been judged, there is no rule keeping it from still
 being considered open.

 Correct.  So it's not open.  (Assuming it also doesn't have any
 outstanding motions.)

Just because it is open before it's judged doesn't mean that's the only 
time it's open.


The implicit pattern is that X becomes Y when Z causes X to remain Y
until something explicitly makes it become not-Y, while X is Y if Z
causes X to cease being Y as soon as Z stops being true.  (X is Y while
Z or X is Y if and only if Z would be clearer.)