Re: DIS: jobs

2019-10-26 Thread James Cook
On Sat, 26 Oct 2019 at 15:21, Timon Walshe-Grey  wrote:
> On Saturday, October 26, 2019 3:19 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey  
> wrote:
> > I would be happy to take it on if I can get Trigon's code working.
>
> which reminds me, can someone add me to the GitHub org? My username is @qenya.
>
> -twg

For the list: looks like twg is in the GitHub org now Welcome!

-- 
- Falsifian


Re: DIS: jobs

2019-10-26 Thread Gaelan Steele
I seem to recall that manually typing “BUS:” before message subjects prevents 
the mailing list from changing messages at all, solving some of these issues. 

Gaelan

> On Oct 26, 2019, at 9:55 AM, "ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk" 
>  wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 2019-10-26 at 16:23 +, ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk wrote:
>> It's not just you who isn't receiving it. I'm not receiving Nch's
>> mail either.
>> 
>> Nch, could you send an email directly to my mailserver at
>> ? That might help to debug whatever issues
>> are going wrong with the mail verification.
> 
> Based on the verification information I saw from this, it's going to be
> pretty difficult for Nch's emails to appear genuine if going through
> the mailing list; there are multiple verification steps that seem
> almost impossible to comply with after the list has altered the
> message.
> 
> I wonder whether it might be a sensible idea to get the mailing list to
> rewrite From: addresses, thus making the entire From-address
> verification step moot? (Perhaps only in the case of known problematic
> mail providers; does our software have an option for that?)
> 
> -- 
> ais523
> 



Re: DIS: jobs

2019-10-26 Thread ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk
On Sat, 2019-10-26 at 16:23 +, ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk wrote:
> It's not just you who isn't receiving it. I'm not receiving Nch's
> mail either.
> 
> Nch, could you send an email directly to my mailserver at
> ? That might help to debug whatever issues
> are going wrong with the mail verification.

Based on the verification information I saw from this, it's going to be
pretty difficult for Nch's emails to appear genuine if going through
the mailing list; there are multiple verification steps that seem
almost impossible to comply with after the list has altered the
message.

I wonder whether it might be a sensible idea to get the mailing list to
rewrite From: addresses, thus making the entire From-address
verification step moot? (Perhaps only in the case of known problematic
mail providers; does our software have an option for that?)

-- 
ais523



Re: DIS: jobs

2019-10-26 Thread ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk
On Sat, 2019-10-26 at 15:36 +, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote:
> On Saturday, October 26, 2019 3:22 PM, Nch 
> wrote:
> > I'm ccing you here, so let me know if you get this one. I suspect
> > your spam filter doesn't like *@protonmail and you need to add an
> > exception. (Someone might want to quote this back on AD for em in
> > case it doesn't make it through.)
> 
> Ah, everything makes sense now. It's not obvious because I use my
> own domain name, but I am _also_ using ProtonMail, and I'm just gonna
> make a wild guess that their mail exchange servers don't like it when
> third parties (like agoranomic.org) send emails purporting to be from
> @protonmail.com addresses.
> 
> Unfortunately I doubt there's going to be an easy way around it. Hmm.
> For now I guess I'll just keep an eye on mail-archive.com for
> messages from you, and set up a non-PM email account for Agora when I
> get around to it.

It's not just you who isn't receiving it. I'm not receiving Nch's mail
either.

Nch, could you send an email directly to my mailserver at
? That might help to debug whatever issues are
going wrong with the mail verification.

-- 
ais523



Re: DIS: jobs

2019-10-26 Thread Gaelan Steele
I could set up a mail rule to forward you everything from *@protonmail.com to 
the Agora lists. Depending on how that forwarding works, it might get past the 
filter. 

Gaelan

> On Oct 26, 2019, at 8:36 AM, Timon Walshe-Grey  wrote:
> 
> On Saturday, October 26, 2019 3:22 PM, Nch  wrote:
>> I'm ccing you here, so let me know if you get this one. I suspect your spam 
>> filter doesn't like *@protonmail and you need to add an exception. (Someone 
>> might want to quote this back on AD for em in case it doesn't make it 
>> through.)
> 
> Ah, everything makes sense now. It's not obvious because I use my own 
> domain name, but I am _also_ using ProtonMail, and I'm just gonna make a wild 
> guess that their mail exchange servers don't like it when third parties (like 
> agoranomic.org) send emails purporting to be from @protonmail.com addresses.
> 
> Unfortunately I doubt there's going to be an easy way around it. Hmm. For now 
> I guess I'll just keep an eye on mail-archive.com for messages from you, and 
> set up a non-PM email account for Agora when I get around to it.
> 
> -twg



Re: DIS: jobs

2019-10-26 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
On Saturday, October 26, 2019 3:22 PM, Nch  wrote:
> I'm ccing you here, so let me know if you get this one. I suspect your spam 
> filter doesn't like *@protonmail and you need to add an exception. (Someone 
> might want to quote this back on AD for em in case it doesn't make it 
> through.)

Ah, everything makes sense now. It's not obvious because I use my own 
domain name, but I am _also_ using ProtonMail, and I'm just gonna make a wild 
guess that their mail exchange servers don't like it when third parties (like 
agoranomic.org) send emails purporting to be from @protonmail.com addresses.

Unfortunately I doubt there's going to be an easy way around it. Hmm. For now I 
guess I'll just keep an eye on mail-archive.com for messages from you, and set 
up a non-PM email account for Agora when I get around to it.

-twg


Re: DIS: jobs

2019-10-26 Thread Nch
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Saturday, October 26, 2019 10:25 AM, Gaelan Steele  wrote:

> Or we could set up some sort of contract (grumbles about having to study up 
> on Agoran contract law these days) to share the workload?

I really need to (find,) finish and submit my Agoran Syndicalism proposal that 
abolishes Offices in favor of contract-based Unions at some point.




Re: DIS: jobs

2019-10-26 Thread Gaelan Steele
I am also considering taking up the role, but I’m happy to leave it to you. Or 
we could set up some sort of contract (grumbles about having to study up on 
Agoran contract law these days) to share the workload?

Gaelan

> On Oct 26, 2019, at 8:19 AM, Timon Walshe-Grey  wrote:
> 
> On Saturday, October 26, 2019 1:39 PM, Kerim Aydin  wrote:
>> [of course what we really need is a rulekeepor :) ]
> 
> I would be happy to take it on if I can get Trigon's code working. Referee 
> has been a bit dull recently because everyone is being boring and obeying the 
> rules.
> 
> (also, ftr, I'm still not getting any messages at all from nch, including the 
> one G. replied to here)
> 
> -twg



Re: DIS: jobs

2019-10-26 Thread Nch
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Saturday, October 26, 2019 10:19 AM, Timon Walshe-Grey  
wrote:

> On Saturday, October 26, 2019 1:39 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@uw.edu wrote:
>
> > [of course what we really need is a rulekeepor :) ]
>
> I would be happy to take it on if I can get Trigon's code working. Referee 
> has been a bit dull recently because everyone is being boring and obeying the 
> rules.
>
> (also, ftr, I'm still not getting any messages at all from nch, including the 
> one G. replied to here)
>
> -twg

I'm ccing you here, so let me know if you get this one. I suspect your spam 
filter doesn't like *@protonmail and you need to add an exception. (Someone 
might want to quote this back on AD for em in case it doesn't make it through.)



Re: DIS: jobs

2019-10-26 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
On Saturday, October 26, 2019 3:19 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey  wrote:
> I would be happy to take it on if I can get Trigon's code working.

which reminds me, can someone add me to the GitHub org? My username is @qenya.

-twg


Re: DIS: jobs

2019-10-26 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
On Saturday, October 26, 2019 1:39 PM, Kerim Aydin  wrote:
> [of course what we really need is a rulekeepor :) ]

I would be happy to take it on if I can get Trigon's code working. Referee has 
been a bit dull recently because everyone is being boring and obeying the rules.

(also, ftr, I'm still not getting any messages at all from nch, including the 
one G. replied to here)

-twg


Re: DIS: jobs

2019-10-26 Thread Nch
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Saturday, October 26, 2019 8:39 AM, Kerim Aydin  wrote:

>
>
> nch wrote:
>
> > ...and reduce consolidation.
>
> As we are picking up again, I'd be more than happy for someone
> else to be Tailor.
>
> Same for Herald, tho I'd like to clear up the current report
> ratification first, and and I'd ask that any takers be really
> keen on promoting herald stuff (through tournaments, patent titles,
> etc.)
>

I'd definitely stand for Tailor. I don't think I have time for Herald.

> [of course what we really need is a rulekeepor :) ]

This is imperative.




DIS: jobs

2019-10-26 Thread Kerim Aydin



nch wrote:
> ...and reduce consolidation.

As we are picking up again, I'd be more than happy for someone
else to be Tailor.

Same for Herald, tho I'd like to clear up the current report
ratification first, and and I'd ask that any takers be *really*
keen on promoting herald stuff (through tournaments, patent titles,
etc.)

[of course what we really need is a rulekeepor :) ]