Re: DIS: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 1638-1645 assigned to Goethe
On 4/29/07, Zefram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In addition to the 500 CFJs from 1994, in 1997 Antimatter submitted 100 trivial CFJs (99 This statement is TRUE. plus one The Clerk of the Courts is not paid enough.) in order to point out the hole that excess CFJs from non-players couldn't be dismissed as excess. These were CFJs 945-1044. No one claimed that this was excessive. This is only true because I was not a player in 1997. -- C. Maud Image (Michael Slone) I'm pretty sure the proposer of such a thing would receive a Genuine Agora Smackdown. [TM] -- Sherlock, in agora-discussion
Re: DIS: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 1638-1645 assigned to Goethe
Goethe wrote: Fair enough. But the point was, when Zefram and I were looking at if we could block Murphy et al.'s proposal, we noticed that a CotC could legally mint an unbounded number of VCs, by an as-long-as-you-want list of linked, trivial CFJs. Instant, overpowering voting, worse than the Oligarch proposal itself. In this case, we used it to: They don't even need to be linked - the CotC merely needs to not do anything about the excess ones. 2. point out the issue (I have a draft bug fix, capping linked CFJ VCs the same way linked CFJ card draws were capped); Should apply to excess CFJs instead, or in addition.
Re: DIS: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 1638-1645 assigned to Goethe
Ed Murphy wrote: They don't even need to be linked - the CotC merely needs to not do anything about the excess ones. The benefit of using linked CFJs is that a set can be all assigned to one judge, who then reaps all the VCs. Unlinked CFJs have to be assigned evenly, due to turning, so the VCs are available to everyone. We still could have done that, given that there were more of us awake than there were Oligarchs awake, but it would have been more complex and involved a lot more CFJs. -zefram
Re: DIS: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 1638-1645 assigned to Goethe
Michael Slone wrote: but this particular exploit clogs up the Stare Decisis and needlessly cranks up the CFJ number (just as the hundreds of CFJs from ~1994 did). Ah come now, the effect is small in this case, and anyway it's not like we're going to run out of numbers, or fill up the Stare Decisis. In addition to the 500 CFJs from 1994, in 1997 Antimatter submitted 100 trivial CFJs (99 This statement is TRUE. plus one The Clerk of the Courts is not paid enough.) in order to point out the hole that excess CFJs from non-players couldn't be dismissed as excess. These were CFJs 945-1044. No one claimed that this was excessive. -zefram