Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2821a,22a assigned to ais523, Wooble, Murphy

2010-07-31 Thread comex
On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 1:11 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote:
        c) It causes at least one Winning Condition to be satisfied, as
           defined by other rules.

For it to be a win announcement it must cause a Winning Condition to
be satisfied, but the Winning Condition can only be satisfied by a win
announcement...

Circularity is great.


Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2821a,22a assigned to ais523, Wooble, Murphy

2010-07-31 Thread Sean Hunt

On 07/31/2010 11:56 AM, comex wrote:

On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 1:11 PM, Ed Murphyemurph...@socal.rr.com  wrote:

c) It causes at least one Winning Condition to be satisfied, as
   defined by other rules.


For it to be a win announcement it must cause a Winning Condition to
be satisfied, but the Winning Condition can only be satisfied by a win
announcement...

Circularity is great.


Circularity is easily resolved if you stop thinking of it that way:

IF NOT (IF this is a win announcement THEN someone satisfies a winning 
condition) THEN this is not a win announcement.


-coppro


Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2821a,22a assigned to ais523, Wooble, Murphy

2010-07-31 Thread comex
On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote:
 Circularity is easily resolved if you stop thinking of it that way:

 IF NOT (IF this is a win announcement THEN someone satisfies a winning
 condition) THEN this is not a win announcement.

The proposed rule says causes, not would cause [if it were a win
announcement].