The below is CFJ 3926. I assign it to nix. =====
The Tailor SHALL and CAN grant me coins as a consequence of my Blue Glitter award earlier in this message.
Called by ais523: Wed 01 Sep 2021 04:23:34 ===== On 2021-09-01 14:23, ais523 via agora-business wrote:
I award myself Blue Glitter. (I judged CFJ 3925 recently, already have a Blue Ribbon, and have not tried to claim Blue Glitter since.) CFJ: The Tailor SHALL and CAN grant me coins as a consequence of my Blue Glitter award earlier in this message. Evidence: this message, and the following quote from the online FLR: {{{ Rule 2602/7 (Power=1) Glitter "Each type of Ribbon has a corresponding type of Glitter with the same name. A player qualifies for a type of Glitter when e qualifies for the same type of Ribbon while already owning such a Ribbon. If a player has not been awarded that type of Ribbon or e corresponding type of Glitter since e last earned or came to qualify for that type of Ribbon, and has not been so awarded five or more times within the past 24 hours, any player CAN award em that type of Glitter by announcement. When a player gains a type of Glitter, the Tailor SHALL in an officially timely fashion and CAN once by announcement award em N/2 boatloads of coins rounded up, where N is the number of players that did not own the corresponding type of Ribbon at the time of the award. The amount payable for each type of Glitter is tracked in the Tailor's weekly report. Rule 2577/6 (Power=3), exerpt Asset Actions For an entity to gain (historical syn. earn) an asset is for that asset to be created in that entity's possession. To grant an entity an asset is to create it in eir possession. }}} Arguments: {{{ The version of Rule 2602 on the online FLR is a mess. In addition to an unmatched double quote, it starts by defining the circumstances in which a player "qualifies" for glitter, but then probably ignores them (it may be that an oddly placed "that" is trying to point to this definition). It then continues by saying that a player can be "awarded" glitter if they haven't had glitter for a redundant earning of a Ribbon. That's the action I took in the message where I called this CFJ. However, the Tailor's coin reward is based on "gaining" glitter. What relationship does this have to being awarded it? The term "award" is normally used for Ribbons and for Patent Titles, whereas "gain" is typically used for assets; neither a Ribbon nor a Patent Title is an asset. "Gain" is mentioned in the definition of the White Ribbon, though. Rule 2577 mentions "gain" as a historical synonym for "earn", which doesn't really help matters much (it may make the White Ribbon's definition easier to understand, but maybe not); also, defining something as a historical synonym doesn't necessarily imply that the synonym exists now. If being "awarded" glitter causes you to "gain" it, then is the glitter itself some sort of tracked object? Perhaps an asset, or a Patent Title? Or is this meant as some sort of hypothetical condition that rules can look at (in which case there's no obvious reason to link "gain" to "award"?). It also seems possible that there's been a Rulekeepor error related to the rule in question, and the online FLR doesn't match the actual ruleset; I haven't looked into this. }}}