AI-GEOSTATS: New list is open

2006-05-19 Thread Gregoire Dubois
Title: New list is open






Good day everyone, 


Around 20% of the members have now moved to the new list and we should then to start to use it. Remember the new address of the list is ai-geostats@jrc.it 

The rules have not changed. 


I am sorry the move of the list was so chaotic but the previous mail server was on the edge of collapsing (90% of the email addresses were declared as unrecognized!).

Since I could not find any support at the remote location, I decided to move the list to something that is more outdated in terms of technology but it will do what it has do and will be managed by people I can talk to face to face. I see this as an improvement for the long term management of the list.

The majordomo server should be able now to redistribute your messages but one may still expect a few problems as these will appear only by using the list. 

Thanks very much again to all for your support and patience and long live ai-geostats@jrc.it


Kind regards,


Gregoire


PS: Digby, please feel free to post your question again on skewed distributions

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AI-GEOSTATS: Skewed Distributions

2006-05-19 Thread Digby Millikan








Is it correct that the probability of being above or below
the mean of a skewed

distribution is not necessarily 0.5?










RE: AI-GEOSTATS: Skewed Distributions

2006-05-19 Thread bob sandefur








Yes-



Take a gold deposit with 99% of assays 0
gpt, 1% of assays 1 gpt. Mean is 0.01, prob 1 assay  mean =99% 

Extreme case but true for lognormal as
well.



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Is it correct that the probability of being above or below
the mean of a skewed

distribution is not necessarily 0.5?










RE: AI-GEOSTATS: Skewed Distributions

2006-05-19 Thread Ted Harding
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On 19-May-06 Digby Millikan wrote:
 Is it correct that the probability of being above or below
 the mean of a skewed distribution is not necessarily 0.5?

Very much true that it may not be 0.5!

As a general (though not absolutely true) rule, if a distribution
is positively skewed then the mediam (0.5-point) is less than
the mean, and for a negatively skewed distribution the median
is greater than the mean. This often applies to the staddard
distributions which turn up in practice.

However, there is no general absolutely sure relationship
between median and mean for non-symmetric distributions.

Intuitively, the position of the median is independent of how
you re-distribute the probability for values less than the
median, and independent of how you re-distribute it for values
greater than the median, so long as you keep 50% on either side.

However, the mean is very much influenced by precisely where
each bit of probability is located, so you can swing the mean
around as much as you like without affecting the mediam.

Best wishes,
Ted.


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AI-GEOSTATS: Re: Skewed Distributions

2006-05-19 Thread Isobel Clark
DigbyIf your distribution has a positive skewness as calculated (bulks towards zero with long tail into high value) the proportion below the mean will be significantly higher than 50%. If negatively skewed -- e.g. Calcium in limestone, iron in iron ore -- more than 50% will be above the mean.The arithmetic mean is the equivalent of the centre of gravity -- one sample way out on the arm outweighs loads of samples close to the centre.Welcome all to the new list  IsobelDigby Millikan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it correct that the probability of being above or below the mean of a skewed  distribution is not necessarily 0.5?