RE: AI-GEOSTATS: Re: Kriging using Nugget Model

2007-01-03 Thread Zhang, Chaosheng
Dear all,

Happy New Year!

Can we regard n=1 in the case of point kriging?

I think there is a trap in the question: How good is estimation using
kriging system that uses a nugget model?

My understanding is that when the spatial autocorrelation of a variable
behaves like a nugget effect, any spatial estimation is not allowed, no
matter how good it declares. What you can do is only to describe it
using conventional statistics, and perhaps explain the results on a
point basis: e.g., on a symbol map, not a contour or distribution map. 

Cheers,

Chaosheng

Dr. Chaosheng Zhang
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To: Isobel Clark
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Subject: Re: AI-GEOSTATS: Re: Kriging using Nugget Model

For block kriging yes, for point kriging the prediction (standard) error

will be close to sigma.

And happy new year to everyone on ai-geostats!
--
Edzer

Isobel Clark wrote:
 Mehari
  
 If you use a semi-variogram which is just nugget, the kriging estimate

 will be the arithmetic mean of the sample values and the standard 
 error will be the standard sigma/root n of classical statistics.
  
 Isobel

 */Mehari Tekeste [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote:

 Can I get some suggestion on this issue?

 How good is estimation using kriging system that uses a nugget
 model? I
 have a geodata and the semi-variogram was best fit using a nugget
 model
 (with semi-variance=C_0; where C_o is a nugget for all h (lag
 distance)
 values.

 Thanks.

 Mehari Z. Tekeste, Ph.D.
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AI-GEOSTATS: Re: Kriging using Nugget Model

2007-01-03 Thread Isobel Clark
Mehari
   
  SURFER will be giving you the arithmetic mean of the samples which fall 
inside your search radius, not all possible samples. Effectively, you are 
getting a moving average.
   
  Isobel
  http://www.kriging.com
  
 


AI-GEOSTATS: Re: Kriging using Nugget Model

2007-01-03 Thread bob sandefur
Before I Kriged with a pure nugget variogram I would ask:

 

1.  How many data points?
2.  Do you expect the data to be spatially uncorrelated? (i.e. what’s
that variable?)
3.  If you transform distribution to approximate normal is variogram
still pure nugget?
4.  Does regression of variable (both raw and approximately normal) on x
+ y + (z?) show a correlation?
5.  If you group the data into 3 to 10 geographic areas does ANOVA say
mean is the same (both raw and approximately normal)

 

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