Re: [akka-user] Re: what gets serialized and when

[Akka Team]

Hi Tim,

For actors, that cannot and will not be deployed remotely, you can call
props.withDeploy(Deploy.local) and then they will not be checked for
serialization. For messages that never meant to be through the wire and has
no serialization (because maybe it refers to a local resource) you can use
the NoSerializationVerificationNeeded marker trait so it will not be
attempted to be serialized.

-Endre

On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 12:31 PM, Tim Pigden  wrote:

> Ok - I think I understand this
> The
> serialize-message = on
> is not a mechanism to alert about messages that get serialized. it is in
> fact an instruction to serialize everything and then complain if it can't
> be.
>
> I think I assumed it was an instruction to report on problems with
> serialization with things that needed serialization.
>
> Consequently using this to attempt to track down stuff that isn't getting
> serialized "silently" is not going to be effective. This will cause the
> program to "fail" at the first attempt to send anything anywhere that can't
> be serialized.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, February 21, 2016 at 10:31:00 AM UTC, Tim Pigden wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>> As I delve further into the serialization issue, it appears that I get
>> the warning
>>
>>  Using the default Java serializer for class ...
>>
>>
>> even for classes that I wouldn't expect to be serialized (messages sent
>> within a single actor system). Some of which I wouldn't need or want to
>> serialize ever
>> - complex object graphs with a serializable proxy equivalent
>> - internal message wrappers between closely coupled actors
>> For some of this usage I don't see locational transparency as necessary
>> or particularly useful.
>>
>> So does everything get serialized (or fail to get serialized) all the
>> time? Or does some subsystem check sample messages to see if it could
>> serialize them if it felt like it?
>>
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[akka-user] Re: what gets serialized and when

[Tim Pigden]

Ok - I think I understand this
The 
serialize-message = on 
is not a mechanism to alert about messages that get serialized. it is in 
fact an instruction to serialize everything and then complain if it can't 
be.

I think I assumed it was an instruction to report on problems with 
serialization with things that needed serialization.

Consequently using this to attempt to track down stuff that isn't getting 
serialized "silently" is not going to be effective. This will cause the 
program to "fail" at the first attempt to send anything anywhere that can't 
be serialized.



On Sunday, February 21, 2016 at 10:31:00 AM UTC, Tim Pigden wrote:
>
> Hi
> As I delve further into the serialization issue, it appears that I get the 
> warning
>
>  Using the default Java serializer for class ...
>
>
> even for classes that I wouldn't expect to be serialized (messages sent 
> within a single actor system). Some of which I wouldn't need or want to 
> serialize ever 
> - complex object graphs with a serializable proxy equivalent
> - internal message wrappers between closely coupled actors 
> For some of this usage I don't see locational transparency as necessary or 
> particularly useful.
>
> So does everything get serialized (or fail to get serialized) all the 
> time? Or does some subsystem check sample messages to see if it could 
> serialize them if it felt like it? 
>

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