[Bug 1874304] Re: grub-probe fails with failed to get canonical path of rpool with ZFS

[Najib Muhammad]

I found a way to fix it:
$ sudo zpool status rpool -v 

or

$ ZPOOL_VDEV_NAME_PATH=1 zpool status

Then you copy the drive path under the "rpool" section

$ sudo zpool clear rpool /dev/disk/by-partuuid/{disk-partuuid}

In your case it should be:

$ sudo zpool clear rpool /dev/disk/by-
partuuid/7b079781-02d8-b74f-a11f-4171bcb642d1

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Session Recordings being created for idle credentials screens

[Najib .]

Noticed that when users just idle on a RDP session credential screen that this 
too creates a session recording file which then is served under the history 
tab. However when opening to view these recordings they are 0s long and show 
nothing.

Right now you essentially need to go through all of these sessions to see 
whether or not there is recording data in them as the “Duration” column is a 
non 0s value so you have no idea which has actual data in it. It would be nice 
if 0s recordings just didn’t create a recording file so the History tab would 
only create links for actual recordings.

RE: Windows 10 / Server 2016 -- Credential Guard?

[Najib .]

We have credential guard enabled on all servers and as Nick states this has no 
impact on Guacamole. Its an optin feature not a mandotary one. Servers where 
remote credential guard is enabled still allow regular RDP or NTLM auth based 
rdp.
I must also add that if you connect to ALL your servers using Guac there is 
little to no benefit to remote credential guard. Its main benefit is when you 
use a jump server to jump to servers that have it enabled then credentials are 
not sent to the remote server. However if you connect to these servers using 
guac all NTLM hashes are present in memory unless you use VBS and credential 
guard.

From: Nick Couchman
Sent: woensdag 18 oktober 2023 1:24
To: user@guacamole.apache.org
Subject: Re: Windows 10 / Server 2016 -- Credential Guard?

On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 2:32 PM Brad Turnbough 
mailto:bturnbo...@backlundinvestment.com>> 
wrote:
Does Guacamole work with Hosts that have credential guard enabled?  I’d imagine 
this has to be dependant on the freeRDP version in use, I guess.  I haven’t 
tested this yet, but I’m interested and am thinking about implementing it in my 
test environment.

Thoughts?


The reading that I've done on Credential Guard indicates that it is more to 
protect credentials within the machine itself - as in, UEFI and TPM - and 
doesn't seem to change how users or applications interact with the system (e.g. 
RDP). This indicates to me that you shouldn't experience any issues with this.

-Nick

RE: Leaving connection open on the credential forces 2x auth

[Najib .]

Update:

This appears to be cause by the Cloudflare tunnel which has a timeout of 100s 
after which it closes the connection.

Is there perhaps a docker env variable that can reduce guacss wss 
ping/keepalive frequency?



From: Najib . 
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2023 11:07:53 AM
To: user@guacamole.apache.org 
Subject: Leaving connection open on the credential forces 2x auth


Hi,



When you start an RDP connection and leave the connection open on the guac RDP 
credentials screen for an extended time period it fails to accept the provided 
credentials when you finally insert them, only on the second try it works. 
Often users leave this credential screen open for a bit and when they finally 
insert their creds they always fail and have to retry a 2nd time. The following 
error is generated:





guacd | guacd[2088]: INFO:  RDP server closed/refused connection: 
Upstream error.

guacd | guacd[2088]: INFO:  User 
"@c2507e0e-7374-4ec3-af3d-fd9ec654e388" disconnected (0 users remain)

guacd | guacd[2088]: INFO:  Last user of connection 
"$d16b6159-98c0-4716-b120-42881631122c" disconnected

guacamole | 08:55:02.721 [http-nio-8080-exec-9] INFO  
o.a.g.tunnel.TunnelRequestService - User "** **" disconnected from 
connection "4". Duration: 1223235 milliseconds

guacamole | Exception in thread "Thread-16" 
java.lang.IllegalStateException: Message will not be sent because the WebSocket 
session has been closed

guacamole | at 
org.apache.tomcat.websocket.WsRemoteEndpointImplBase.writeMessagePart(WsRemoteEndpointImplBase.java:449)

guacamole | at 
org.apache.tomcat.websocket.WsRemoteEndpointImplBase.sendMessageBlock(WsRemoteEndpointImplBase.java:307)

guacamole | at 
org.apache.tomcat.websocket.WsRemoteEndpointImplBase.sendMessageBlock(WsRemoteEndpointImplBase.java:249)

guacamole | at 
org.apache.tomcat.websocket.WsRemoteEndpointImplBase.sendString(WsRemoteEndpointImplBase.java:191)

guacamole | at 
org.apache.tomcat.websocket.WsRemoteEndpointBasic.sendText(WsRemoteEndpointBasic.java:36)

guacamole | at 
org.apache.guacamole.websocket.GuacamoleWebSocketTunnelEndpoint.sendInstruction(GuacamoleWebSocketTunnelEndpoint.java:152)

guacamole | at 
org.apache.guacamole.websocket.GuacamoleWebSocketTunnelEndpoint.access$200(GuacamoleWebSocketTunnelEndpoint.java:53)

guacamole | at 
org.apache.guacamole.websocket.GuacamoleWebSocketTunnelEndpoint$2.run(GuacamoleWebSocketTunnelEndpoint.java:253)





Is this perhaps a network stack timeout/idle issue or related to guac itself 
maybe? I assume if guac lost the connection it would propagate to the front end 
before you would enter your credentials and find out the websocket connection 
is gone as indicated by the above error?

Leaving connection open on the credential forces 2x auth

[Najib .]

Hi,

When you start an RDP connection and leave the connection open on the guac RDP 
credentials screen for an extended time period it fails to accept the provided 
credentials when you finally insert them, only on the second try it works. 
Often users leave this credential screen open for a bit and when they finally 
insert their creds they always fail and have to retry a 2nd time. The following 
error is generated:


guacd | guacd[2088]: INFO:  RDP server closed/refused connection: 
Upstream error.
guacd | guacd[2088]: INFO:  User 
"@c2507e0e-7374-4ec3-af3d-fd9ec654e388" disconnected (0 users remain)
guacd | guacd[2088]: INFO:  Last user of connection 
"$d16b6159-98c0-4716-b120-42881631122c" disconnected
guacamole | 08:55:02.721 [http-nio-8080-exec-9] INFO  
o.a.g.tunnel.TunnelRequestService - User "** **" disconnected from 
connection "4". Duration: 1223235 milliseconds
guacamole | Exception in thread "Thread-16" 
java.lang.IllegalStateException: Message will not be sent because the WebSocket 
session has been closed
guacamole | at 
org.apache.tomcat.websocket.WsRemoteEndpointImplBase.writeMessagePart(WsRemoteEndpointImplBase.java:449)
guacamole | at 
org.apache.tomcat.websocket.WsRemoteEndpointImplBase.sendMessageBlock(WsRemoteEndpointImplBase.java:307)
guacamole | at 
org.apache.tomcat.websocket.WsRemoteEndpointImplBase.sendMessageBlock(WsRemoteEndpointImplBase.java:249)
guacamole | at 
org.apache.tomcat.websocket.WsRemoteEndpointImplBase.sendString(WsRemoteEndpointImplBase.java:191)
guacamole | at 
org.apache.tomcat.websocket.WsRemoteEndpointBasic.sendText(WsRemoteEndpointBasic.java:36)
guacamole | at 
org.apache.guacamole.websocket.GuacamoleWebSocketTunnelEndpoint.sendInstruction(GuacamoleWebSocketTunnelEndpoint.java:152)
guacamole | at 
org.apache.guacamole.websocket.GuacamoleWebSocketTunnelEndpoint.access$200(GuacamoleWebSocketTunnelEndpoint.java:53)
guacamole | at 
org.apache.guacamole.websocket.GuacamoleWebSocketTunnelEndpoint$2.run(GuacamoleWebSocketTunnelEndpoint.java:253)


Is this perhaps a network stack timeout/idle issue or related to guac itself 
maybe? I assume if guac lost the connection it would propagate to the front end 
before you would enter your credentials and find out the websocket connection 
is gone as indicated by the above error?

RE: Separating username from display name

[Najib .]

Hey Nick,

I definitely dont want to sound the alarm bells on this because as all your 
points are indeed very valid, the trust starts at the Idp. But let me perhaps 
mention a real world scenario and why this came up.

Microsoft Entra is currently employed as the IdP. It has this concept called 
B2B trust which essentially allows you to open your application to external 
Microsoft Entra tenants which you trust. This is itself is very useful as you 
don’t need to manage all these users yourself on your home tenant as long as 
they meet some continuous approval process. But now you must guarantee that 
that these claims remain static of these external IdPs after validation and 
this is very hard to do as even the helpdesk administrator role can change the 
display names or emails of regular users. So after someone was granted access 
to the application their displayname or email could be modified but their 
access remains valid as for the IdP its still the same user with the same 
application assignment but now on the guac side you might have a local db user 
that has admin privileges called “admin” (I know bad name to use) which will 
map this new displayname to this admin user that perhaps has high privileges.

So prevent such scenario our only option was to use an immutable claim such as 
the object id but the downside is that we had to sacrifice human readability in 
guac.


From: Nick Couchman<mailto:vn...@apache.org>
Sent: maandag 9 oktober 2023 16:26
To: user@guacamole.apache.org<mailto:user@guacamole.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Separating username from display name

On Mon, Oct 9, 2023 at 9:59 AM Najib . 
mailto:aounina...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Hi Nick,

The change depends on the current implementation of usage of the username 
across the front end.
A Simple implementation would check in the frontend if a user has a 
Fullname/displayname and use that and only doing a fallback to the username if 
the former is empty. Another possible implantation is to let admins decide 
which value to use as the display name in the front end such as username, 
fullname or even email which are already part of a guac user profile.

Yep, understood, and this is doable - I was just highlighting that it isn't 
something that can be easily reconfigured as it is implemented, there are code 
changes that need to be made. It isn't terribly difficult, just requires some 
level of effort to do.


This would make envinrments using the OIDC extension more secure as well. 
Because many would just go for the most straight forward claim such as the 
email or display name on the IDP. But this can be easily abused if you can 
change these values to impersonate someone with higher privileges. For instance 
Microsoft recommends using the object id claim which is an immutable GUID and 
unique across their entire cloud. But doing so in Guac makes it challenging for 
admins to link these values to actual users without doing some dig work.

I'm not sure I fully agree with you, here:
1) The display name has nothing to do with security, it's a usability thing.
2) While I see what you're saying - and generally agree - about the security of 
using a GUID rather than username or e-mail to track accounts between different 
systems, I'm not sure I'd agree that this can be "easily abused." Doing so 
would require access to either modify the data that the IdP is sending back to 
Guacamole, or, at the very least, intercept and alter the data (MITM) between 
the IdP and Guacamole. Having access to do either of these things un-checked 
implies either intentional malicious activity by a privileged user 
(administrator) of the IdP, a lack of proper trust configuration between the 
IdP and Guacamole, or that you've given your users (non-administrators) too 
many privileges with respect to the IdP. All three of these are pretty serious 
issues that have implications outside of just the IdP <-> Guacamole 
relationship, and none of these should be easy to do. If you don't trust your 
IdP Admins to do the right thing, you probably shouldn't be authenticating your 
Guacamole instance - or anything else for that matter - against that IdP.

That's not to say I'm opposed to changes that would either change the display 
value used, or use some other mechanism to track user identification within 
Guacamole. I just don't think we need to be terribly alarmist about the current 
implementation.

-Nick

RE: Separating username from display name

[Najib .]

Hi Nick,

The change depends on the current implementation of usage of the username 
across the front end.
A Simple implementation would check in the frontend if a user has a 
Fullname/displayname and use that and only doing a fallback to the username if 
the former is empty. Another possible implantation is to let admins decide 
which value to use as the display name in the front end such as username, 
fullname or even email which are already part of a guac user profile.

This would make envinrments using the OIDC extension more secure as well. 
Because many would just go for the most straight forward claim such as the 
email or display name on the IDP. But this can be easily abused if you can 
change these values to impersonate someone with higher privileges. For instance 
Microsoft recommends using the object id claim which is an immutable GUID and 
unique across their entire cloud. But doing so in Guac makes it challenging for 
admins to link these values to actual users without doing some dig work.

From: Nick Couchman<mailto:vn...@apache.org>
Sent: maandag 9 oktober 2023 13:28
To: user@guacamole.apache.org<mailto:user@guacamole.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Separating username from display name

On Mon, Oct 9, 2023 at 3:39 AM Najib . 
mailto:aounina...@outlook.com>> wrote:
We are currently using the OIDC extension to authenticate users however we 
would like to use a claim that is an immutable GUID as the username for 
security reasons. Since we are currently using the OIDC display name which is 
not immutable on the source identity provider. But doing so makes the guac 
frontend show this cryptic guid username too.

Is there a way to separate the display name of the user with its underlying 
username? So that we can use the guid value as the underlying username and a 
more human friendly value as the users display name or at the very least let 
guac frontend show the “Full Name” value in which already exists (if its 
populated) in places such as the History tab, users overview and so on instead 
of the username value.


There is currently no way to do this without making some modifications to both 
the web application (JavaScript + HTML) source code, as well as some of the 
Java sources (REST API, guacamole-ext, etc.).

-Nick

Separating username from display name

[Najib .]

We are currently using the OIDC extension to authenticate users however we 
would like to use a claim that is an immutable GUID as the username for 
security reasons. Since we are currently using the OIDC display name which is 
not immutable on the source identity provider. But doing so makes the guac 
frontend show this cryptic guid username too.

Is there a way to separate the display name of the user with its underlying 
username? So that we can use the guid value as the underlying username and a 
more human friendly value as the users display name or at the very least let 
guac frontend show the “Full Name” value in which already exists (if its 
populated) in places such as the History tab, users overview and so on instead 
of the username value.

Thanks.

RE: Re: REST API Suggestions

[Najib .]

Hi Nick,

Finally had time to get back to this.

Thanks for the feedback let me clarify the use case and why this came up.

In a nutshell the ideal flow for what I would like to achieve is as follows:


  1.  A user makes a request for access to a server
  2.  After this is approved some logic is triggered that makes API calls to 
Apache Guacamole
  3.  The guac server connections API endpoint is called to return all 
connections
  4.  Parse the returned JSON and filter out the needed connection by name
 *   If it doesn’t exists create one
  5.  Use the id of the newly created or existing connection to change 
parameters of the connection and assign it to the user
  6.  Do the reverse when the access expires

The platform where the logic happens is considered a “low code” platform. Its 
main power is to use little to no code to do API calls to any platform or 
application that has REST API endpoints and parse that data which is JSON. It 
has a couple of built-in components to handle that but only when the JSON 
returned is following best practises. For instance when you want to parse a 
list of connections it excepts the result to be a JSON array literal. In Guac’s 
case though this returns a JSON object literal which completely breaks the 
built-in parsing components and makes the data pretty much unusable. The only 
way to parse the data is to use JavaScript by sending it off platform and 
return it parsed which adds more overhead and complexity to an otherwise 
elegant approach.

So in this case the problematic part is step 4 because the native JSON array 
filter operation breaks. As an example this is how such filter would look like 
if the returned data was an array:

https://imgur.com/a/UH46MKy

It would require two steps (the middle step is just to beatify the filter 
operation). Now somewhat ironically I did get around this for this particular 
use case by using the connectionGroups/ROOT/tree endpoint. Since this does 
return child connections of a connection group as an array after you carefully 
select the right values and further extracting which takes significantly more 
steps than the example above. But in my opinion this workaround is a hacky 
solution to a problem that shouldn’t exist. Luckily for me I found this by 
chance and could use that data instead.

Now obviously this is a specific example but what I want to highlight with this 
is that JSON array literals were created for this exact purpose. Any API 
endpoint I have interacted with so far would return an array of objects. I 
would understand that guac would have its own internal, GUI or performance 
related reasons for such data structure. But I think most would agree too that 
using data as keys would go against the spirit of JSON.

Now for this specific use case this could be somewhat alleviated without 
breaking all the dependencies of such structure within the code base. If the 
endpoint supported the usage of filters like the connection history does then 
this would also reduce the need for further parsing.

Now this might not be seen as a real problem and just some stupid rant by 
someone who cant use Javascript but my argument is that this could improve the 
usage and integration of Apache Guacamole even further and offer new use cases 
on platforms such as the one I am using. And all it would take is to embrace 
the correct JSON literals 

PS: This also applies to the connection group endpoint.

Best regards,
Najib

On 2023/06/22 20:41:27 Nick Couchman wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 4:05 PM Caleb Coverdale
>  wrote:
> >
> > I know I don’t have much skin in the game here, but I also agree with this 
> > change.
> >
> >
> > Having to convert it back into the proposed format as we speak.
> >
> > This would definitely change the way things are called for the better.
> >
>
> Could you also clarify what you're doing with the data and why you
> need to convert from Object-based to Array-based storage (and back)?
>
> -Nick
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RE: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Guacamole 1.5.3 released

[Najib .]

Hi Michael,

First of all congrats on the release and thanks to all contributors for keeping 
this awesome project going.

I was excited seeing an issue that I have brought was fixed so quickly: that 
you can now load the record storage viewer without messing with downloading 
extension files. However after upgrading my images to 1.5.3 and deploying the 
new containers I don’t seem to be able to get the record viewer to work.


  *   Recordings are properly being created under the specified location;  
INFO: Recording of session will be saved to 
"/record/069ae80f-813d-3b7f-bccc-0405e2cbea3f/recording"
  *   I’m using the RECORDING_SEARCH_PATH environment variable to specify the 
location which is also reflected correctly in the guacamole.properties file as: 
recording-search-path: /record
  *   On the RDP connection I’m using the recommended recording path of 
${HISTORY_PATH}/${HISTORY_UUID} (Recording name: empty, Automatically create 
recording path: enabled)
  *   Also the extension is loaded correctly too and can locate it inside the 
container:  INFO  o.a.g.extension.ExtensionModule - Extension "Session 
Recording Storage" (recording-storage) loaded.

So everything seems to be set correctly for it to work but in the frontend the 
“View” link does not appear for a recorded session. Perhaps I missed something 
stupid. What else should I perhaps check?

This the current docker compose file: 
https://github.com/brolifen/GuacCompose/blob/main/docker-compose.yml

Thanks,
Najib

On 2023/08/01 20:03:18 Michael Jumper wrote:
> The Apache Guacamole community is proud to announce the release of
> Apache Guacamole 1.5.3.
>
> Apache Guacamole is a clientless remote desktop gateway which supports
> standard protocols like VNC, RDP, and SSH. We call it "clientless"
> because no plugins or client software are required; once Guacamole is
> installed on a server, all you need to access your desktops is a web
> browser.
>
> The 1.5.3 release is a bugfix release that addresses miscellaneous bugs
> from 1.5.2 and earlier, including a regression in the RDP support, and
> updates all dependencies to their latest compatible versions.
>
> A full list of the changes in this release, along with links to
> downloads and updated documentation, can be found in the release notes:
>
> https://guacamole.apache.org/releases/1.5.3/
>
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[jira] [Updated] (GUACAMOLE-1836) Add WebAuthN redirection for RDP connections

[Najib Aouni (Jira)]

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https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GUACAMOLE-1836?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel
 ]

Najib Aouni updated GUACAMOLE-1836:
---
Description: 
Windows RDP allows you to redirect WebAuthN requests using the 
"redirectwebauthn:i:value" parameter. See: 
[https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/remote/remote-desktop-services/clients/rdp-files#device-redirection]

This way you can use a locally attached FIDO2 security key or wearable inside a 
guac RDP connection where WebAuthN is triggered improving security even further 
without relying on non-phishing resistant 2fa such as TOTP inside a Guac 
session.

 

  was:
Windows allows you to redirect WebAuthN requests using the 
"redirectwebauthn:i:value" parameter. See: 
[https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/remote/remote-desktop-services/clients/rdp-files#device-redirection]

This way you can use a locally attached FIDO2 security key or wearable inside a 
guac RDP connection where WebAuthN is triggered improving security even further 
without relying on non-phishing resistant 2fa such as TOTP inside a Guac 
session.

 


> Add WebAuthN redirection for RDP connections
> 
>
> Key: GUACAMOLE-1836
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GUACAMOLE-1836
> Project: Guacamole
>  Issue Type: Improvement
>  Components: RDP
>Reporter: Najib Aouni
>Priority: Trivial
>
> Windows RDP allows you to redirect WebAuthN requests using the 
> "redirectwebauthn:i:value" parameter. See: 
> [https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/remote/remote-desktop-services/clients/rdp-files#device-redirection]
> This way you can use a locally attached FIDO2 security key or wearable inside 
> a guac RDP connection where WebAuthN is triggered improving security even 
> further without relying on non-phishing resistant 2fa such as TOTP inside a 
> Guac session.
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 ]

Najib Aouni updated GUACAMOLE-1836:
---
Description: 
Windows allows you to redirect WebAuthN requests using the 
"redirectwebauthn:i:value" parameter. See: 
[https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/remote/remote-desktop-services/clients/rdp-files#device-redirection]

This way you can use a locally attached FIDO2 security key or wearable inside a 
guac RDP connection where WebAuthN is triggered improving security even further 
without relying on non-phishing resistant 2fa such as TOTP inside a Guac 
session.

 

  was:
Windows allows you to redirect WebAuthN requests using the 
"redirectwebauthn:i:value" parameter. See: 
[https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/remote/remote-desktop-services/clients/rdp-files#device-redirection]

This way you can use a locally attached FIDO2 security key or wearable inside a 
RDP connection where WebAuthN is triggered improving security even further 
without relying on non-phishing resistant 2fa such as TOTP inside a Guac 
session.

 


> Add WebAuthN redirection for RDP connections
> 
>
> Key: GUACAMOLE-1836
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GUACAMOLE-1836
> Project: Guacamole
>  Issue Type: Improvement
>  Components: guacamole-common
>Reporter: Najib Aouni
>Priority: Trivial
>
> Windows allows you to redirect WebAuthN requests using the 
> "redirectwebauthn:i:value" parameter. See: 
> [https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/remote/remote-desktop-services/clients/rdp-files#device-redirection]
> This way you can use a locally attached FIDO2 security key or wearable inside 
> a guac RDP connection where WebAuthN is triggered improving security even 
> further without relying on non-phishing resistant 2fa such as TOTP inside a 
> Guac session.
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[jira] [Updated] (GUACAMOLE-1836) Add WebAuthN redirection for RDP connections

[Najib Aouni (Jira)]

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https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GUACAMOLE-1836?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel
 ]

Najib Aouni updated GUACAMOLE-1836:
---
Description: 
Windows allows you to redirect WebAuthN requests using the 
"redirectwebauthn:i:value" parameter. See: 
[https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/remote/remote-desktop-services/clients/rdp-files#device-redirection]

This way you can use a locally attached FIDO2 security key or wearable inside a 
RDP connection where WebAuthN is triggered improving security even further 
without relying on non-phishing resistant 2fa such as TOTP inside a Guac 
session.

 

  was:
Windows allows you to redirect WebAuthN requests using the 
"redirectwebauthn:i:value" parameter. See: 
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/remote/remote-desktop-services/clients/rdp-files#device-redirection

This way you can use a locally attached FIDO2 inside an RDP connection where 
WebAuthN is triggered improving security even further without relying on 
non-phishing resistant 2fa such as TOTP inside a Guac session.

 


> Add WebAuthN redirection for RDP connections
> 
>
> Key: GUACAMOLE-1836
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GUACAMOLE-1836
> Project: Guacamole
>  Issue Type: Improvement
>  Components: guacamole-common
>Reporter: Najib Aouni
>Priority: Trivial
>
> Windows allows you to redirect WebAuthN requests using the 
> "redirectwebauthn:i:value" parameter. See: 
> [https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/remote/remote-desktop-services/clients/rdp-files#device-redirection]
> This way you can use a locally attached FIDO2 security key or wearable inside 
> a RDP connection where WebAuthN is triggered improving security even further 
> without relying on non-phishing resistant 2fa such as TOTP inside a Guac 
> session.
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Najib Aouni created GUACAMOLE-1836:
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 Summary: Add WebAuthN redirection for RDP connections
 Key: GUACAMOLE-1836
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GUACAMOLE-1836
 Project: Guacamole
  Issue Type: Improvement
  Components: guacamole-common
Reporter: Najib Aouni


Windows allows you to redirect WebAuthN requests using the 
"redirectwebauthn:i:value" parameter. See: 
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/remote/remote-desktop-services/clients/rdp-files#device-redirection

This way you can use a locally attached FIDO2 inside an RDP connection where 
WebAuthN is triggered improving security even further without relying on 
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RE: The case of case sensitive usernames

[Najib .]

Hi Sean,

We implemented something similar but its connected to an OpenID Idp and that is 
where the problem occurs. All users are provisioned in lower case from our side 
but we have no control over the Idp side where users can use varying cases in 
their username or even autocomplete systems that capitalize the first letter by 
default. Most user/public facing auth providers are for this reason case 
insensitive.


From: Sean Hulbert<mailto:shulb...@securitycentric.net.INVALID>
Sent: dinsdag 18 juli 2023 23:34
To: user@guacamole.apache.org<mailto:user@guacamole.apache.org>
Subject: Re: The case of case sensitive usernames


We do this all day long, easy solution is to implement the SQL database 
connection, write directly to the database the user accounts and passwords, use 
the REST API for connections; inject connection information to database 
assigned to user and upon destroying the connections delete username passwords 
and connection token.

Basically we wrote our own Provisioning server using an xAPI format to control 
Guacamole for on the fly provisioning.



Hope this helps.

 Sean






On 7/18/2023 1:44 PM, Najib . wrote:
Hi Nick,

Sadly this wont work for our use case. We pre create the user and link it to a 
just-in-time created server connection. Afterwards the connection is destroyed. 
If we would use groups instead then we need to create a group for every single 
user just to circumvent this issue. Since we use the email claim we discovered 
that the IdPs, which we don’t have control over, can have various permutations 
of capitals in the email address. So it gets hard to predict the correct 
username to pre create, hence the need for capital insensitive usernames. Users 
can be hard to predict when given control over entering their username.

On 2023/07/18 19:09:56 Nick Couchman wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 12:49 PM Najib . 
> <mailto:ao...@outlook.com> wrote:
> >
> > We are having some grief with Guac being case sensitive for usernames. I 
> > saw that this has been mentioned multiple times in the past:
> >
> >
> >
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GUACAMOLE-1239
> >
> >
> >
> > We are facing the same problem using the OpenID extension.
> >
> >
> >
> > Anyone willing to implement an option to normalize all usernames to end the 
> > grief? The poor ticket guy offered some sponsorship I am willing to add to 
> > it.
>
> This can certainly be done, and the code is reasonably easy to
> change...however, if you have your SSO system (OpenID in your case)
> pass through the group names, and assign permissions that way, then
> you don't have to worry about it.
>
> -Nick
>
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RE: Re: The case of case sensitive usernames

[Najib .]

Hi Nick,

Sadly this wont work for our use case. We pre create the user and link it to a 
just-in-time created server connection. Afterwards the connection is destroyed. 
If we would use groups instead then we need to create a group for every single 
user just to circumvent this issue. Since we use the email claim we discovered 
that the IdPs, which we don’t have control over, can have various permutations 
of capitals in the email address. So it gets hard to predict the correct 
username to pre create, hence the need for capital insensitive usernames. Users 
can be hard to predict when given control over entering their username.

On 2023/07/18 19:09:56 Nick Couchman wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 12:49 PM Najib .  wrote:
> >
> > We are having some grief with Guac being case sensitive for usernames. I 
> > saw that this has been mentioned multiple times in the past:
> >
> >
> >
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GUACAMOLE-1239
> >
> >
> >
> > We are facing the same problem using the OpenID extension.
> >
> >
> >
> > Anyone willing to implement an option to normalize all usernames to end the 
> > grief? The poor ticket guy offered some sponsorship I am willing to add to 
> > it.
>
> This can certainly be done, and the code is reasonably easy to
> change...however, if you have your SSO system (OpenID in your case)
> pass through the group names, and assign permissions that way, then
> you don't have to worry about it.
>
> -Nick
>
> -
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The case of case sensitive usernames

[Najib .]

We are having some grief with Guac being case sensitive for usernames. I saw 
that this has been mentioned multiple times in the past:

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GUACAMOLE-1239

We are facing the same problem using the OpenID extension.

Anyone willing to implement an option to normalize all usernames to end the 
grief? The poor ticket guy offered some sponsorship I am willing to add to it.

RE: OpenID client secret

[Najib .]

Nope I don’t think so I believe the extension only supports implicit flow.

On 2023/07/18 14:36:00 "Fischer, Manuel" wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> we are wondering if its possible to set a client secret in Guacamole config 
> when using OpenID connect as authentication?
>
> Kind regards
> Manuel
>
>

REST API Suggestions

[Najib .]

Its really awesome that Guacamole can be called using REST API, this makes it 
incredibly powerful and flexible. However there some pain points and 
improvements possible


  1.  The connection and connection group response bodies are a  rather big 
JSON. They don’t use the array type and the keys contain the actual values of 
the connection identifier. Any JSON parser will panic trying to decipher them. 
Is there a reason why such JSON file is created for these two types whereas 
others respect proper JSON formatting? See below for what a better reponse body 
would look like.
  2.  I couldn’t find it but there seems to be no API endpoint for forcing a 
logout for the user. I know you can kill any or all sessions for a user and 
their connection permissions rendering them seeing an empty page. However if 
the IdP also blocks them from getting a new token this can never happen in the 
current situation as long as the user stays logged on. A logout API call would 
solve this.

I would like to add this is not complaining about Guac. I truly love this 
solution and all the people contributing to it its truly the silent MVP in the 
tech world and you guys are doing amazing work. But when you truly love 
something you also want it to become better.

Before;
{
"11": {
"name": "AD Jump Hosts - External Users",
"identifier": "11",
"parentIdentifier": "ROOT",
"type": "ORGANIZATIONAL",
"activeConnections": 0,
"attributes": {
"max-connections": null,
"max-connections-per-user": "10",
"enable-session-affinity": ""
}
},
"1": {
"name": "Emergency Access - AD Jump Hosts",
"identifier": "1",
"parentIdentifier": "ROOT",
"type": "ORGANIZATIONAL",
"activeConnections": 0,
"attributes": {
"max-connections": null,
"max-connections-per-user": null,
"enable-session-affinity": ""
}
}
}

After:
[
{
"name": "My connection Group A",
"identifier": "11",
"parentIdentifier": "ROOT",
"type": "ORGANIZATIONAL",
"activeConnections": 0,
"attributes": {
"max-connections": null,
"max-connections-per-user": "10",
"enable-session-affinity": ""
}
},
{
"name": "My connection Group B",
"identifier": "1",
"parentIdentifier": "ROOT",
"type": "ORGANIZATIONAL",
"activeConnections": 0,
"attributes": {
"max-connections": null,
"max-connections-per-user": null,
"enable-session-affinity": ""
}
}
]

RE: RE: Mouse cursor does not properly update icon based on context in Windows 10 and Windows Server

[Najib .]

Updating this thread for completeness.

Turned out this issue is not present in the official docker images. It was only 
present in a completely self contained image of 1.5.2.  Will raise this issue 
with the Docker image provider instead.

On 2023/06/14 05:56:19 "Najib ." wrote:
> No one else is seeing this? Its quiet an annoying bug.
>
> On 2023/06/12 16:32:06 "Najib ." wrote:
> > Hello there,
> >
> > Using Guacamole 1.5.2 on Docker I noticed on RDP connections to Windows 
> > 10/11/Server 2022 machines that the cursor does not properly update its 
> > shape when you cross  over a window border. The expected behavior is for it 
> > change the icon of the cursor to the scaling cursor shape allowing you to 
> > scale the window. You can still scale the window but the cursor never 
> > changes.
> >
> > It only changes when something else on the screen changes, for instance if 
> > there is an animation or when you trigger the start menu. Here’s an example 
> > of this:
> >
> > Imgur: The magic of the Internet<https://imgur.com/a/E7BSbkH>
> >
> > Here you can see that the cursor initially does not change when crossing 
> > the window border, however when I press the alt key which highlights an 
> > element of the menu of this particular window the cursor suddenly also 
> > changes. As long as nothing changes on the screen the cursor remains 
> > unchanged and this is especially evident when the cursor does finally 
> > change it remains changed until something on the screen changes as you can 
> > also see in the

RE: Re: Struggling to get volumes mapped for session recording in docker image

[Najib .]

Hi Nick,

Thanks for the extensive feedback. For the session recording viewing extension 
I indeed naively thought that using the environment variable 
RECORDING_SEARCH_PATH would perhaps implicitly import the extension as well but 
this did not happen.

As for the permissions part I still haven’t figured it out but I’m sure I’ll 
get there as I’m relatively new to Linux and Docker so I’ll find eventually 
resolve it.

Thank again for making the Jira ticket I believe this would improve the docker 
image installation even more for an almost hands free deployment of Guacamole 
and its extensions. Some other repackaged images make use of the EXTENSIONS 
environment variable to explicitly load extensions too, maybe this idea could 
also be used for the official image to explicitly load extensions besides the 
ones that are implicitly loaded. So whenever in the future there’s an extension 
that has no environment variable linked to it it could just be loaded 
explicitly at deploy time.


On 2023/06/18 20:20:55 Nick Couchman wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 18, 2023 at 2:57 PM Najib .  wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> >
> > I have been struggling for hours to get the proper volume mapped to get the 
> > session recording and the extension functioning;
> >
> >
> >
> > When I enable session recording on a server connection object I see the 
> > following in the logs:
> >
> >
> >
> > guacd[31]: ERROR:  Creation of recording failed: No such file or directory
> >
> >
> >
> > The manual says this is by default stored in /var/lib/guacamole/recordings
> >
> >
> >
> > However when entering the container there is no such folder which would 
> > make the error understandable.
> >
>
> The folder(s) do not exist by default - you have to create them or
> mount a volume. In a Docker environment, I'd highly suggest mounting a
> volume, which is what you're trying to do, so that's good :-).
>
> >
> >
> > Then I wanted to change the recording folder by using the 
> > recording-search-path option in guacamole.properties. However this sent me 
> > on a completely different marry go round. The logs mention this;
> >
> >
> >
> > INFO  o.a.g.environment.LocalEnvironmen
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RE: Development of new features - open for help

[Najib .]

Hi Linda,

I would say this is already mostly possible but can be improved. Currently 
Apache Guacamole has an all or nothing approach to administrator privileges. As 
an admin you can view an ongoing session and even take control but you have to 
be system wide admin for this. A more fine-grained model where you can only 
have admin privileges to connections and connections groups would handle this 
use case.

Then for the other part this could be implemented as a more general 
notification extension. Which could be bidrections where the admin could send 
on screen notifications to active sessions and or where a user could send a 
notification that could be highlighted on a connection object where it can be 
read if needed.

That should cover your use cases more generally I believe and improve it for 
other use cases as well. If Im not mistaken there was a pull request for more 
fine grained RBAC for Guacamole already.

On 2023/06/22 08:32:27 Linda Saar wrote:
>
> Dear All,
>
> a fellow student and I are working for a further education institution at a 
> German university and have been given the task to develop some new features.
> We are still relatively new to guacamole development and would be very happy 
> if someone is interested in joining our small two-person development team and 
> helping with the development of the following features.
>
> The basic features are all already available in Apache Guacamole. What is 
> missing is usability, views, link management and automation.
> From the user's point of view: We would like, when our students are trained 
> in a software in an online training via the remote tool server, to be able to 
> get help from the instructor more easily. We'd like to give the instructor a 
> "show me in small all the students' monitors" view (if that's what he wants), 
> i.e. we'd like to map that an instructor is walking through the virtual 
> "training PC pool".
> Then, when he sees that someone needs help, we would like to give the 
> instructor the ability to view the student's monitor "in large" and still be 
> able to access it in writing.
>
> In summary, we want to bring the benefits of face-to-face teaching to online 
> teaching - without requiring students to share their screens via video 
> conferencing, without requiring them to generate

Struggling to get volumes mapped for session recording in docker image

[Najib .]

Hi,

I have been struggling for hours to get the proper volume mapped to get the 
session recording and the extension functioning;

When I enable session recording on a server connection object I see the 
following in the logs:

guacd[31]: ERROR:  Creation of recording failed: No such file or directory

The manual says this is by default stored in /var/lib/guacamole/recordings

However when entering the container there is no such folder which would make 
the error understandable.

Then I wanted to change the recording folder by using the recording-search-path 
option in guacamole.properties. However this sent me on a completely different 
marry go round. The logs mention this;

INFO  o.a.g.environment.LocalEnvironment - GUACAMOLE_HOME is 
"/home/guacamole/.guacamole".
INFO  o.a.g.GuacamoleServletContextListener - Read configuration parameters 
from "/home/guacamole/.guacamole/guacamole.properties".

Trying to expose this to the host as a volume makes guacamole crash:
guacamole  | rm: cannot remove '/home/guacamole/.guacamole': Device or resource 
busy
guacamole  | rm: cannot remove '/home/guacamole/.guacamole': Device or resource 
busy


I also tried following the manual by using the following volume in my docker 
compose file:
volumes:
  - /home/guacamole/guacamole-config:/etc/guacamole

When I put a guacamole.properties file in the host volume it gets ignored.

The documentation is not clear on this topic and the default path mentioned 
seem not relevant to docker.This is really an unnecessary painful struggle and 
very frustrating as all other containers map their volumes just fine. Only 
stuck with with trying to map SOMETHING out of Guacamole to ultimately get 
session recording working.

Complete docker compose can be found here: 
https://github.com/brolifen/GuacCompose/blob/main/docker-compose.yml

Thanks in advance for any help.

RE: Re: The IP of "Remote host" under "History" is always the docker default gateway IP address

[Najib .]

Hi Michael,

Thanks for pushing me in the right direction that indeed solved my problem! I 
used the Traefik docker image to do this.

On 2023/06/14 21:41:27 Michael Jumper wrote:
> Try:
>
> 1. Set up a reverse proxy in front of the Guacamole container to provide
> SSL/TLS (either Apache or Nginx - whichever you prefer), if you have not
> already done so.
>
> 2. Make sure to configure your reverse proxy to send the IP address of
> the client with the "X-Forwarded-For" header. This is shown in the
> examples in the documentation.
>
> 3. Configure the Guacamole container to trust the "X-Forwarded-For"
> header it receives from your reverse proxy by setting the
> "REMOTE_IP_VALVE_ENABLED" environment variable to "true".
>
> See:
>
> * https://guacamole.apache.org/doc/gug/reverse-proxy.html
> *
> https://guacamole.apache.org/doc/gug/guacamole-docker.html#running-guacamole-behind-a-proxy
>
> There is otherwise no way for a Docker container to see the IP address
> of the connected client unless the container is not running behind a
> gateway at all.
>
> - Mike
>
> On 6/14/23 12:36, Henri Alves de Godoy wrote:
> > Hi all.
> >
> > I've also had this problem for some time. How could I register the IP of
> > the client and not the gateway?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Henri.
> >
> > Em qua., 14 de jun. de
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RE: Integrating Backend Service with AzureAD token with Guacamole's SSO Extension

[Najib .]

Not sure if this would answer your question but I am using Guacamole with Azure 
AD and if you access the Guacamole frontend using OpenID, it does a redirect 
and just inserts the idtoken as a parameter behind the main url as you can see 
here:

https://imgur.com/soDVlUD



On 2023/06/16 17:41:41 ca...@me.com.INVALID wrote:
> Hello,
> I'm currently working on integrating AzureAD with Guacamole's SSO extension. 
> My goal is to pass the AzureAD ID token through the backend service and 
> obtain the corresponding Guacamole user token. However, I'm facing challenges 
> when attempting to send POST/GET requests to the /api/ext/openid/login 
> endpoint. I understand that my approach might be incorrect, and I would 
> greatly appreciate any suggestions or guidance on how to achieve this 
> integration successfully.
>
>
> Here's a clearer explanation of the desired workflow:
> • The user's ID token, generated by AzureAD, needs to be passed through 
> our backend service.
> • The backend service should then forward the ID token to Guacamole's SSO 
> extension.
> • Upon successful authentication, the Guacamole user token should be 
> returned back to the backend service.
>
>
> I have attempted to make requests to the /api/ext/openid/login endpoint, but 
> I'm not getting the desired outcome. It's possible that I'm missing crucial 
> steps or misconfiguring the integration (mostly from a lack of understanding)
>
>
> If anyone has experience with integrating AzureAD with Guacamole's SSO 
> extension or suggestions on how to make this workflow work effectively, your 
> insights woul
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The IP of "Remote host" under "History" is always the docker default gateway IP address

[Najib .]

Noticed that for the docker image that the IP address of the remote host that 
is logged under history is always the internal docker default gateway IP.

RE: Mouse cursor does not properly update icon based on context in Windows 10 and Windows Server

[Najib .]

No one else is seeing this? Its quiet an annoying bug.

On 2023/06/12 16:32:06 "Najib ." wrote:
> Hello there,
>
> Using Guacamole 1.5.2 on Docker I noticed on RDP connections to Windows 
> 10/11/Server 2022 machines that the cursor does not properly update its shape 
> when you cross  over a window border. The expected behavior is for it change 
> the icon of the cursor to the scaling cursor shape allowing you to scale the 
> window. You can still scale the window but the cursor never changes.
>
> It only changes when something else on the screen changes, for instance if 
> there is an animation or when you trigger the start menu. Here’s an example 
> of this:
>
> Imgur: The magic of the Internet<https://imgur.com/a/E7BSbkH>
>
> Here you can see that the cursor initially does not change when crossing the 
> window border, however when I press the alt key which highlights an element 
> of the menu of this particular window the cursor suddenly also changes. As 
> long as nothing changes on the screen the cursor remains unchanged and this 
> is especially evident when the cursor does finally change it remains changed 
> until something on the screen changes as you can also see in the video where 
> the scale cursor remains visible even when the mouse has left the context 
> area.

RE: Re: Mouse cursor does not properly update icon based on context in Windows 10 and Windows Server

[Najib .]

Did some further digging and the issue was not present in the 1.3.0 docker 
image however starting from 1.4.0 and up the problem started appearing.

On 2023/06/12 16:56:03 Nick Couchman wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 12:32 PM Najib .  wrote:
> >
> > Hello there,
> >
> >
> >
> > Using Guacamole 1.5.2 on Docker I noticed on RDP connections to Windows 
> > 10/11/Server 2022 machines that the cursor does not properly update its 
> > shape when you cross  over a window border. The expected behavior is for it 
> > change the icon of the cursor to the scaling cursor shape allowing you to 
> > scale the window. You can still scale the window but the cursor never 
> > changes.
> >
>
> I'm not running in a Docker environment, but I am running 1.5.2 and
> connecting to Server 2022, and I do not see this behavior - I see the
> cursor change from the normal pointer to the double-arrow, indicating
> you're on a Window Border and can scale it.
>
> It's possible this is something related to the FreeRDP version used in
> the Docker container, I suppose, but definitely not seeing it in my
> environment.
>
> -Nick
>
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Mouse cursor does not properly update icon based on context in Windows 10 and Windows Server

[Najib .]

Hello there,

Using Guacamole 1.5.2 on Docker I noticed on RDP connections to Windows 
10/11/Server 2022 machines that the cursor does not properly update its shape 
when you cross  over a window border. The expected behavior is for it change 
the icon of the cursor to the scaling cursor shape allowing you to scale the 
window. You can still scale the window but the cursor never changes.

It only changes when something else on the screen changes, for instance if 
there is an animation or when you trigger the start menu. Here’s an example of 
this:

Imgur: The magic of the Internet

Here you can see that the cursor initially does not change when crossing the 
window border, however when I press the alt key which highlights an element of 
the menu of this particular window the cursor suddenly also changes. As long as 
nothing changes on the screen the cursor remains unchanged and this is 
especially evident when the cursor does finally change it remains changed until 
something on the screen changes as you can also see in the video where the 
scale cursor remains visible even when the mouse has left the context area.

Bug#1021745: Fwd: [Pkg-shadow-devel] Bug#1021745: passwd: /etc/passwd was edited with the wrong shell path

[Najib Bakari]

-- Forwarded message -
De: Serge E. Hallyn 
Date: vie, 14 oct 2022 a las 17:56
Subject: Re: [Pkg-shadow-devel] Bug#1021745: passwd: /etc/passwd was edited
with the wrong shell path
To: Najib Bakari 
Cc: Serge E. Hallyn 


On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 05:34:09PM +0200, Najib Bakari wrote:
> Dear Serge Hallyn,
> My point was only about the /etc/passwd being edited, even with the check
> and warning.
>
> *> Well no, it clearly checked, and warned you.  You chose to
> ignore the warning.  *
>
> When the warning pops up, it is already too late. Check this please:
>
> #chsh
> Changing the login shell for root
> Enter the new value, or press ENTER for the default
> Login Shell [/bin/zsh]: zsh
> chsh: Warning: zsh does not exist
>
> # chsh
> Password:
> chsh: PAM: Authentication failure
>
> Best regards
>
> Najib

Right, you'd have to reset it after seeing the warning.

This isn't something that has recently changed, it's been like this
for 25 years.

I'm open to a patch that will accept a new /etc/login.defs variable to
affect this - it could, if set, simply refuse on unknown shell, or
ask "are sure".  However, github.com/shadow-maint/shadow woudl be the
place for this.  The debian package would simply make a change to
the debian/login.defs (if it wants) to set the default.  Feel free to
create an issue or, better, submit a PR there :)

thanks,
-serge


-- 
Liebe Güße

Najib El Bakari Zagour

[Pkg-shadow-devel] Bug#1021745: Fwd: Bug#1021745: passwd: /etc/passwd was edited with the wrong shell path

[Najib Bakari]

-- Forwarded message -
De: Serge E. Hallyn 
Date: vie, 14 oct 2022 a las 17:56
Subject: Re: [Pkg-shadow-devel] Bug#1021745: passwd: /etc/passwd was edited
with the wrong shell path
To: Najib Bakari 
Cc: Serge E. Hallyn 


On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 05:34:09PM +0200, Najib Bakari wrote:
> Dear Serge Hallyn,
> My point was only about the /etc/passwd being edited, even with the check
> and warning.
>
> *> Well no, it clearly checked, and warned you.  You chose to
> ignore the warning.  *
>
> When the warning pops up, it is already too late. Check this please:
>
> #chsh
> Changing the login shell for root
> Enter the new value, or press ENTER for the default
> Login Shell [/bin/zsh]: zsh
> chsh: Warning: zsh does not exist
>
> # chsh
> Password:
> chsh: PAM: Authentication failure
>
> Best regards
>
> Najib

Right, you'd have to reset it after seeing the warning.

This isn't something that has recently changed, it's been like this
for 25 years.

I'm open to a patch that will accept a new /etc/login.defs variable to
affect this - it could, if set, simply refuse on unknown shell, or
ask "are sure".  However, github.com/shadow-maint/shadow woudl be the
place for this.  The debian package would simply make a change to
the debian/login.defs (if it wants) to set the default.  Feel free to
create an issue or, better, submit a PR there :)

thanks,
-serge


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Bug#1021745: passwd: /etc/passwd was edited with the wrong shell path

[Najib B]

Package: passwd
Version: 1:4.12.3+dfsg1-1
Severity: important
X-Debbugs-Cc: najibbak...@gmail.com

Dear Maintainer,

I have just noticed this issue on chsh that I would like to report to you,
including a solution that I would like to mention.

--
# chsh
Changing the login shell for root
Enter the new value, or press ENTER for the default
Login Shell [/bin/zsh]: zsh
chsh: Warning: zsh does not exist

exit
$ sudo chsh
Password:
chsh: PAM: Authentication failure`
---
The problem here, is that chsh has accepted "zsh" without checking first, if
that path exists.

After exiting "root" it is not possible to login back.
The solution is to edit /etc/passwd from this:
root:x:0:0:root:/root:zsh
to this:
root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/zsh

Best regards,


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Description:Kali GNU/Linux Rolling
Release:2022.3
Codename:   kali-rolling
Architecture: x86_64

Kernel: Linux 5.18.0-kali7-amd64 (SMP w/3 CPU threads; PREEMPT)
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE not set
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /usr/bin/dash
Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system)
LSM: AppArmor: enabled

Versions of packages passwd depends on:
ii  libaudit1   1:3.0.7-1.1
ii  libc6   2.34-4
ii  libcrypt1   1:4.4.28-2
ii  libpam-modules  1.5.2-5
ii  libpam0g1.5.2-5
ii  libselinux1 3.4-1+b2
ii  libsemanage23.4-1+b2

Versions of packages passwd recommends:
ii  sensible-utils  0.0.17

passwd suggests no packages.

-- no debconf information

[Pkg-shadow-devel] Bug#1021745: passwd: /etc/passwd was edited with the wrong shell path

[Najib B]

Package: passwd
Version: 1:4.12.3+dfsg1-1
Severity: important
X-Debbugs-Cc: najibbak...@gmail.com

Dear Maintainer,

I have just noticed this issue on chsh that I would like to report to you,
including a solution that I would like to mention.

--
# chsh
Changing the login shell for root
Enter the new value, or press ENTER for the default
Login Shell [/bin/zsh]: zsh
chsh: Warning: zsh does not exist

exit
$ sudo chsh
Password:
chsh: PAM: Authentication failure`
---
The problem here, is that chsh has accepted "zsh" without checking first, if
that path exists.

After exiting "root" it is not possible to login back.
The solution is to edit /etc/passwd from this:
root:x:0:0:root:/root:zsh
to this:
root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/zsh

Best regards,


-- System Information:
Distributor ID: Kali
Description:Kali GNU/Linux Rolling
Release:2022.3
Codename:   kali-rolling
Architecture: x86_64

Kernel: Linux 5.18.0-kali7-amd64 (SMP w/3 CPU threads; PREEMPT)
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE not set
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /usr/bin/dash
Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system)
LSM: AppArmor: enabled

Versions of packages passwd depends on:
ii  libaudit1   1:3.0.7-1.1
ii  libc6   2.34-4
ii  libcrypt1   1:4.4.28-2
ii  libpam-modules  1.5.2-5
ii  libpam0g1.5.2-5
ii  libselinux1 3.4-1+b2
ii  libsemanage23.4-1+b2

Versions of packages passwd recommends:
ii  sensible-utils  0.0.17

passwd suggests no packages.

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[jira] (GUACAMOLE-261) Support for SPICE protocol

[najib (Jira)]

[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GUACAMOLE-261 ]


najib deleted comment on GUACAMOLE-261:
-

was (Author: JIRAUSER295107):
can use thin client with spice ? now im using this !2022-08-29_23-17.png!

> Support for SPICE protocol
> --
>
> Key: GUACAMOLE-261
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GUACAMOLE-261
> Project: Guacamole
>  Issue Type: New Feature
>Reporter: Mike Jumper
>Assignee: Nick Couchman
>Priority: Minor
> Attachments: 2022-08-29_21-48.png, 2022-08-29_23-17-1.png, 
> 2022-08-29_23-17.png, Screenshot_2022-06-06_17-27-20.png, 
> guacamole-spice-build.txt, guacd-spice-build.txt
>
>
> {panel:bgColor=#EE}
> *The description of this issue was copied from 
> [GUAC-124|https://glyptodon.org/jira/browse/GUAC-124], an issue in the JIRA 
> instance used by the Guacamole project prior to its acceptance into the 
> Apache Incubator.*
> Comments, attachments, related issues, and history from prior to acceptance 
> *have not been copied* and can be found instead at the original issue.
> {panel}
> SPICE is becoming quite popular, and is available as part of KVM. Guacamole 
> should add support.
> http://www.spice-space.org/



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[jira] [Commented] (GUACAMOLE-261) Support for SPICE protocol

[najib (Jira)]

[ 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GUACAMOLE-261?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel=17597504#comment-17597504
 ] 

najib commented on GUACAMOLE-261:
-

can use thin client with spice ? now im using this !2022-08-29_23-17.png!

> Support for SPICE protocol
> --
>
> Key: GUACAMOLE-261
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GUACAMOLE-261
> Project: Guacamole
>  Issue Type: New Feature
>Reporter: Mike Jumper
>Assignee: Nick Couchman
>Priority: Minor
> Attachments: 2022-08-29_21-48.png, 2022-08-29_23-17-1.png, 
> 2022-08-29_23-17.png, Screenshot_2022-06-06_17-27-20.png, 
> guacamole-spice-build.txt, guacd-spice-build.txt
>
>
> {panel:bgColor=#EE}
> *The description of this issue was copied from 
> [GUAC-124|https://glyptodon.org/jira/browse/GUAC-124], an issue in the JIRA 
> instance used by the Guacamole project prior to its acceptance into the 
> Apache Incubator.*
> Comments, attachments, related issues, and history from prior to acceptance 
> *have not been copied* and can be found instead at the original issue.
> {panel}
> SPICE is becoming quite popular, and is available as part of KVM. Guacamole 
> should add support.
> http://www.spice-space.org/



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[jira] [Updated] (GUACAMOLE-261) Support for SPICE protocol

[najib (Jira)]

 [ 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GUACAMOLE-261?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel
 ]

najib updated GUACAMOLE-261:

Attachment: 2022-08-29_23-17-1.png

> Support for SPICE protocol
> --
>
> Key: GUACAMOLE-261
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GUACAMOLE-261
> Project: Guacamole
>  Issue Type: New Feature
>Reporter: Mike Jumper
>Assignee: Nick Couchman
>Priority: Minor
> Attachments: 2022-08-29_21-48.png, 2022-08-29_23-17-1.png, 
> 2022-08-29_23-17.png, Screenshot_2022-06-06_17-27-20.png, 
> guacamole-spice-build.txt, guacd-spice-build.txt
>
>
> {panel:bgColor=#EE}
> *The description of this issue was copied from 
> [GUAC-124|https://glyptodon.org/jira/browse/GUAC-124], an issue in the JIRA 
> instance used by the Guacamole project prior to its acceptance into the 
> Apache Incubator.*
> Comments, attachments, related issues, and history from prior to acceptance 
> *have not been copied* and can be found instead at the original issue.
> {panel}
> SPICE is becoming quite popular, and is available as part of KVM. Guacamole 
> should add support.
> http://www.spice-space.org/



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[jira] [Updated] (GUACAMOLE-261) Support for SPICE protocol

[najib (Jira)]

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https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GUACAMOLE-261?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel
 ]

najib updated GUACAMOLE-261:

Attachment: 2022-08-29_23-17.png

> Support for SPICE protocol
> --
>
> Key: GUACAMOLE-261
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GUACAMOLE-261
> Project: Guacamole
>  Issue Type: New Feature
>Reporter: Mike Jumper
>Assignee: Nick Couchman
>Priority: Minor
> Attachments: 2022-08-29_21-48.png, 2022-08-29_23-17.png, 
> Screenshot_2022-06-06_17-27-20.png, guacamole-spice-build.txt, 
> guacd-spice-build.txt
>
>
> {panel:bgColor=#EE}
> *The description of this issue was copied from 
> [GUAC-124|https://glyptodon.org/jira/browse/GUAC-124], an issue in the JIRA 
> instance used by the Guacamole project prior to its acceptance into the 
> Apache Incubator.*
> Comments, attachments, related issues, and history from prior to acceptance 
> *have not been copied* and can be found instead at the original issue.
> {panel}
> SPICE is becoming quite popular, and is available as part of KVM. Guacamole 
> should add support.
> http://www.spice-space.org/



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[jira] [Comment Edited] (GUACAMOLE-261) Support for SPICE protocol

[najib (Jira)]

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https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GUACAMOLE-261?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel=17597452#comment-17597452
 ] 

najib edited comment on GUACAMOLE-261 at 8/30/22 1:55 AM:
--

great work bro , i test your fork  in  emulator platfrom called pnetlab like ( 
gns3 and eve-ng ) that use qemu/kvm and i confirm sound and copy past work  and 
file sharing  only one thing not work for me display not scale and basic 
quality !2022-08-29_21-48.png!



> Support for SPICE protocol
> --
>
> Key: GUACAMOLE-261
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GUACAMOLE-261
> Project: Guacamole
>  Issue Type: New Feature
>Reporter: Mike Jumper
>Assignee: Nick Couchman
>Priority: Minor
> Attachments: 2022-08-29_21-48.png, 
> Screenshot_2022-06-06_17-27-20.png, guacamole-spice-build.txt, 
> guacd-spice-build.txt
>
>
> {panel:bgColor=#EE}
> *The description of this issue was copied from 
> [GUAC-124|https://glyptodon.org/jira/browse/GUAC-124], an issue in the JIRA 
> instance used by the Guacamole project prior to its acceptance into the 
> Apache Incubator.*
> Comments, attachments, related issues, and history from prior to acceptance 
> *have not been copied* and can be found instead at the original issue.
> {panel}
> SPICE is becoming quite popular, and is available as part of KVM. Guacamole 
> should add support.
> http://www.spice-space.org/



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[jira] [Updated] (GUACAMOLE-261) Support for SPICE protocol

[najib (Jira)]

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https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GUACAMOLE-261?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel
 ]

najib updated GUACAMOLE-261:

Attachment: 2022-08-29_21-48.png

> Support for SPICE protocol
> --
>
> Key: GUACAMOLE-261
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GUACAMOLE-261
> Project: Guacamole
>  Issue Type: New Feature
>Reporter: Mike Jumper
>Assignee: Nick Couchman
>Priority: Minor
> Attachments: 2022-08-29_21-48.png, 
> Screenshot_2022-06-06_17-27-20.png, guacamole-spice-build.txt, 
> guacd-spice-build.txt
>
>
> {panel:bgColor=#EE}
> *The description of this issue was copied from 
> [GUAC-124|https://glyptodon.org/jira/browse/GUAC-124], an issue in the JIRA 
> instance used by the Guacamole project prior to its acceptance into the 
> Apache Incubator.*
> Comments, attachments, related issues, and history from prior to acceptance 
> *have not been copied* and can be found instead at the original issue.
> {panel}
> SPICE is becoming quite popular, and is available as part of KVM. Guacamole 
> should add support.
> http://www.spice-space.org/



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bug#42267: Fontification takes a long time when an equation contains a double prime

[Najib Idrissi-Kaïtouni]

Hi,

Yes, this is much, much better with this patch. I don't experience any 
noticeable slowdown anymore, whether in the test file or in my "real 
world" file. Thanks!


Best regards,
Najib Idrissi

Le 09/07/2020 à 18:37, Ikumi Keita a écrit :

Hi Najib,


Najib Idrissi  writes:

Sure, see the attached file. As I said, it's a file filled with lipsum
with a single equation at the bottom.

AUCTeX's fontification for math went through a bigger overhaul.  Please
share the file and a recipe (preferably starting with `emacs -Q') how to
trigger your obeservation, that would help a lot.

1. Open the file and go to the equation at the bottom
2. Notice that editing speed inside the equation is normal (e.g. hold
the space bar inside the equation and notice that it goes at a
normal speed)
3. Add a double prime somewhere in the equation, e.g. after the 2 so
that it becomes 1+1=2''
4. Notice that now editing speed is degraded, for example hold the
space bar at the end of the equation and notice that there is now a
stutter. If your CPU is too fast and you don't notice the stutter,
you can just copy more paragraphs of lipsum, I guess.
In my real life example (that I cannot share because the article in
question is not public yet) the slowdown is so bad that a single
keystroke inside an affected equation can take several seconds.

Thank you for providing concrete example and procedure to reproduce. I
experience the slowdown you described.

The attached patch fixes, or at least reduces, the slowdown on my side.
Could you check whether it works for you or not?

Best Regards,
Ikumi Keita





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bug#42267: Fontification takes a long time when an equation contains a double prime

[Najib Idrissi]

Hi,


Can you please share this test file so others can load it and see if the
behavior is reproducible?

Sure, see the attached file. As I said, it's a file filled with lipsum 
with a single equation at the bottom.



AUCTeX's fontification for math went through a bigger overhaul.  Please
share the file and a recipe (preferably starting with `emacs -Q') how to
trigger your obeservation, that would help a lot.


1. Open the file and go to the equation at the bottom
2. Notice that editing speed inside the equation is normal (e.g. hold
   the space bar inside the equation and notice that it goes at a
   normal speed)
3. Add a double prime somewhere in the equation, e.g. after the 2 so
   that it becomes 1+1=2''
4. Notice that now editing speed is degraded, for example hold the
   space bar at the end of the equation and notice that there is now a
   stutter. If your CPU is too fast and you don't notice the stutter,
   you can just copy more paragraphs of lipsum, I guess.

In my real life example (that I cannot share because the article in 
question is not public yet) the slowdown is so bad that a single 
keystroke inside an affected equation can take several seconds.


Best regards,
Najib Idrissi

Le 08/07/2020 à 22:22, Arash Esbati a écrit :

Hi Najib,

Najib Idrissi-Kaïtouni  writes:


I would guess that Auctex thinks '' is the end of a quote and is
looking for the (nonexistent) double backtick `` that would be the
beginning of it. I tried to get a backtrace with gdb and it's not
exactly clear which precise function is to blame, but it was always as
part of the fontification. As a test, I filled a buffer with some
lipsum and put an equation at the bottom. Without '' everything is
fine, as soon as there is a '' in the equation things start to
noticeably slow down.

Can you please share this test file so others can load it and see if the
behavior is reproducible?


I am currently using the latest version, 12.2.4, and Emacs
27.0.91. The behavior is fairly recent, although I couldn't say if it
started with this release precisely, it may have started more than a
week ago.

AUCTeX's fontification for math went through a bigger overhaul.  Please
share the file and a recipe (preferably starting with `emacs -Q') how to
trigger your obeservation, that would help a lot.

Thanks in advance, Arash
\documentclass{article}
\begin{document}

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posuere sit amet mauris ut aliquam. Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet,
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bug#42267: Fontification takes a long time when an equation contains a double prime

[Najib Idrissi-Kaïtouni]

Dear Auctex developers,

Whenever an equation contains a "double prime" '', and if the equation 
is very far down in a long document, it appears that fontification takes 
a very long time. This is not very apparent for short documents, but I 
am currently editing a 6000 lines / 360k character long document. Any 
keystroke resulting in a change in the affected equation, or even just 
displaying that part of the buffer, makes Emacs grind to a halt (on my 
machine, it can take 10-15 seconds to process, during which Emacs is 
completely unresponsive, including not responding to C-g).


I would guess that Auctex thinks '' is the end of a quote and is looking 
for the (nonexistent) double backtick `` that would be the beginning of 
it. I tried to get a backtrace with gdb and it's not exactly clear which 
precise function is to blame, but it was always as part of the 
fontification. As a test, I filled a buffer with some lipsum and put an 
equation at the bottom. Without '' everything is fine, as soon as there 
is a '' in the equation things start to noticeably slow down.


I am currently using the latest version, 12.2.4, and Emacs 27.0.91. The 
behavior is fairly recent, although I couldn't say if it started with 
this release precisely, it may have started more than a week ago.


Thanks.
Najib Idrissi




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[petsc-users] Using PETSc in Cray systems

[Najib Alia via petsc-users]

Dear all,

we are trying to compile our Finite Element code on a Cray system and
have a problem with PETSc and available packages: "unable to find
scotch64", the variable PETSC_SINGLE_LIBRARY is set to NOTFOUND, and the
compiler tests fail.

What we have done:

1) We loaded the corresponding modules:

module load cray-tpsl

module load cray-petsc-64

2) and set the PETSC_DIR and ARCH variables as given in "module display
cray-petsc-64":

---
/opt/cray/modulefiles/cray-petsc-64/3.7.4.0:

setenv   PRGENV64 64
conflict cray-petsc-complex
conflict petsc-complex
conflict cray-petsc
conflict petsc
conflict cray-hdf5
setenv   CRAY_PETSC_DIR /opt/cray/petsc/3.7.4.0/real
setenv   CRAY_PETSC_BASE_DIR /opt/cray/petsc/3.7.4.0/real
setenv   CRAY_PETSC_VERSION 3.7.4.0
setenv   CRAY_PETSC_PREFIX_DIR
/opt/cray/petsc/3.7.4.0/real/CRAY64/8.3/sandybridge
setenv   PETSC_DIR
/opt/cray/petsc/3.7.4.0/real/CRAY64/8.3/sandybridge
setenv   PETSC_ARCH
prepend-path PE_PRODUCT_LIST CRAY_PETSC
prepend-path CRAY_LD_LIBRARY_PATH
/opt/cray/petsc/3.7.4.0/real/CRAY64/8.3/sandybridge/lib
prepend-path MANPATH
/opt/cray/petsc/3.7.4.0/real/man:/opt/cray/man/csmlversion
setenv   PE_PETSC_MODULE_NAME cray-petsc-64/3.7.4.0
setenv   PE_PETSC_VOLATILE_PRGENV CRAY CRAY64 GNU GNU64 INTEL
INTEL64
...
module-whatis    PETSc - Portable, Extensible Toolkit for Scientific
Computation
---

3) the library scotch is correctly installed (verified using "module
display cray-tpsl").

Our program uses the following file to find PETSc:

https://github.com/jedbrown/cmake-modules/blob/master/FindPETSc.cmake

Do you have suggestions ?

How can we check the current configuration of PETSc and set the
variables correctly? Is it normal that PETSC_ARCH is empty?

Since we do not have much experience with Cray systems, we would like to
avoid configure PETSc by our own.

Thanks ahead for your suggestions,

N. Alia

[petsc-users] Configure Mumps with 64-bit integers

[Najib Alia via petsc-users]

Hello,

I am getting an "INFOG(1) = -51 integer overflow" error from Mumps
because the linear system I am solving is very big. I have tried to
configure Mumps in a full 64-bit integer version using

===

./configure --with-64-bit-indices --with-cc=gcc --with-cxx=g++
--with-fc=gfortran --with-debugging=0 COPTFLAGS='-O3 -march=native
-mtune=native' CXXOPTFLAGS='-O3 -march=native -mtune=native'
FOPTFLAGS='-O3 -march=native -mtune=native' --download-fblaslapack
--download-openmpi --download-scalapack --download-mumps
--download-metis --download-suitesparse --download-parmetis

===

but I obtain the following error:

***
UNABLE to CONFIGURE with GIVEN OPTIONS    (see configure.log for details):
---
Cannot use MUMPS with 64 bit integers, it is not coded for this capability
***

Is there a way to use Mumps with 64-bit integers through Petsc? or to
use the "selective 64-bit integer feature"?

Thank you ahead.

Alia

[Gmsh] Defining a small circle on a truncated cone

[Najib Alia]

Dear all,

I am trying to define a small circular area on the outer surface of a
truncated cone, see file attached.

After defining some points for the circle on the outer surface, and
using Ellipses and the feature "Points{...} In Surface{...}", the 3d
mesh does not take into account the circle; only the points are
correctly on the mesh.

It seems that the way I have built the circle is not correct: the circle
does not follow the curvature of the cylinder.

How can I construct the circle so that it fits with the truncated cone
and its volume mesh?

Thank you very much ahead for your help.

Best regards,

-- 

Najib Alia  
MIMESIS PhD Student
-
Research group "Numerical Mathematics and Scientific Computing"
Weierstrass Institute for Applied Analysis and Stochastics (WIAS)
Mohrenstr. 39, 10117 Berlin, Germany
-
Contact in Finland (until July 2018)
Office address: SSAB, 133E/Rautaruukintie 155, 92101 Raahe
Office tel. +358 503143470
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Tel. +49 151 412 04833
najib.a...@wias-berlin.de



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[Afrah Najib]

This word is wrong burden  ... pardon me ... I am sorry ... There is no
edit here

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> From: Afrah Najib <afrah.na...@gmail.com>
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> Subject: [petsc-users] Fwd:  PDSLin hybrid solver performance with
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[petsc-users] Fwd: PDSLin hybrid solver performance with PETSc

[Afrah Najib]

I beg your burden, how can I use those tools of PETSc in PDSLin program ...

valgrind is working in such "mpirun -n $n valgrind ./dtest_pdslin
$inputFIle $matrixFile "

but these options are not working

-- Forwarded message --
From: Smith, Barry F. <bsm...@mcs.anl.gov>
Date: 30 April 2018 at 18:39
Subject: Re: [petsc-users] PDSLin hybrid solver performance with PETSc
To: Afrah Najib <afrah.na...@gmail.com>
Cc: PETSc <petsc-users@mcs.anl.gov>, "Xiaoye S. Li" <x...@lbl.gov>,
Ichitaro Yamazaki <iyama...@icl.utk.edu>, Ichitaro Yamazaki <
ic.yamaz...@gmail.com>



   Looks like there is a divide by a variable that is zero in pdslin where
the code doesn't first check if the value is not zero.

   You can try using the option -start_in_debugger and in each debugger
window use the debugger option to catch floating point exceptions and then
type cont to continue the run. Yes this is annoying when you have so many
debugger windows but is the only simple way to determine immediately the
line of code that is producing the floating point exception.

   Barry


> On Apr 30, 2018, at 6:20 AM, Afrah Najib <afrah.na...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am testing PDSLin hybrid solver performance with PETSc krylov method on
a SPD matrix called audik_1 matrix(format is ijv full matrix ordered by
rows)
> https://sparse.tamu.edu/GHS_psdef/audikw_1
>
> I am also running on cluster with  Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2680 v4 @
2.40GHz processor and 28 core , 128 ; 512GB per node
>
> but it takes a lot of time for Schur complement factorization.
>
> Compiler  Subdomains  processors  Precond TmatrixPartition
TmatrixDist Tfactorise  TcompApproSchur TprepApproSchur
Tfactoschur Tprecond_Total  Tsolve
> gcc   8   128 Sparse  23.495320.6009915   6.059546
212.82430.04027608  38.74885257.679613.69609
> gcc   8   16  Sparse  11.864  0.4385703   27.23499
1390.1530.5523289   55.207061473.2074.213825
> gcc   8   32  Sparse  9.9127920.2592737   16.79125
934.35710.2372452   49.391751000.81337.2029
> gcc   8   64  Sparse  12.619290.2336042   8.2316
632.839 0.1113939   52.21551693.415313.94034
>
> My PETSc in stallation configuration is like this:
>
> export PETSC_DIR=/X/petsc
> export PETSC_ARCH=arch-real
>
> ./configure PETSC_DIR=/X/petsc \
> prefix=/X/petsc/petsc-install \
> PETSC_ARCH=arch-real  \
> --with-debugging=0 \
> --with-cc=/Y/progs/openmpi/openmpi-3.0.0-gcc-7.1.0/bin/mpicc \
> --with-cxx=/Y/progs/openmpi/openmpi-3.0.0-gcc-7.1.0/bin/mpicxx \
> --with-fc=/Y/progs/openmpi/openmpi-3.0.0-gcc-7.1.0/bin/mpif90 \
> --with-valgrind=1 \
> --with-valgrind-dir=/X/root/usr/local/valgrind-3.13.0 \
> --with-hwloc-dir=/X/root/usr/local/hwloc-1.11.9 \
> --with-blas-lapack-dir=/Y/progs/intel/compilers_and_
libraries_2017.0.098/linux/mkl/lib/intel64.
>
> My slurm scrpt content is like this:
>
> #!/bin/bash -l
> #SBATCH -J "Paudik16"
> #SBATCH -A X
> #SBATCH -p X
> #SBATCH --exclusive
> #SBATCH -o Paudik_8_2_16.%j.out
> #SBATCH -e Paudik_8_2_16.%j.err
>
> #SBATCH -N 8
> #SBATCH --ntasks-per-node=2
> #SBATCH --cpus-per-task=1
>
> export KMP_AFFINITY=verbose,disabled
> export MKL_NUM_THREADS=${SLURM_CPUS_PER_TASK}
> export OMP_NUM_THREADS=${SLURM_CPUS_PER_TASK}
>
> module purge
>
> module load gcc/7.1.0
> module load mpi/openmpi-3.0.0-gcc-7.1.0
> module load intel/mkl_2017.0.098
>
> file=input.in
> matrixFile=~/dataDir/ijv/audikw_1.ijv
>
> mpirun -np  $SLURM_NTASKS ./dtest_pdslin $file $matrixFile
>
>
>
> I attached an output of one file along with the input configuration of
PDSLin.
>
> Any idea of how to enhance these results.
>
> Note  in PDSLin, I tried with parallel Schur permutation but I got the
following error :
>
> [1]PETSC ERROR: --
--
> [1]PETSC ERROR: Caught signal number 8 FPE: Floating Point
E/Xception,probably divide by zero
> [1]PETSC ERROR: Try option -start_in_debugger or -on_error_attach_debugger
> [1]PETSC ERROR: or see http://www.mcs.anl.gov/petsc/
documentation/faq.html#valgrind
> [1]PETSC ERROR: or try http://valgrind.org on GNU/linu/X and Apple Mac OS
/X to find memory corruption errors
> [1]PETSC ERROR: configure using --with-debugging=yes, recompile, link,
and run
> [1]PETSC ERROR: to get more information on the crash.
> [1]PETSC ERROR: - Error Message
--
> ---

[petsc-users] PDSLin hybrid solver performance with PETSc

[Afrah Najib]

Hi all,

I am testing PDSLin hybrid solver performance with PETSc krylov method on a
SPD matrix called audik_1 matrix(format is ijv full matrix ordered by rows)
https://sparse.tamu.edu/GHS_psdef/audikw_1

I am also running on cluster with  Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2680 v4 @
2.40GHz processor and 28 core , 128 ; 512GB per node

but it takes a lot of time for Schur complement factorization.


Compiler Subdomains processors Precond TmatrixPartition TmatrixDist
Tfactorise TcompApproSchur TprepApproSchur Tfactoschur Tprecond_Total Tsolve
gcc 8 128 Sparse 23.49532 0.6009915 6.059546 212.8243 0.04027608 38.74885
257.6796 13.69609
gcc 8 16 Sparse 11.864 0.4385703 27.23499 1390.153 0.5523289 55.20706
1473.207 4.213825
gcc 8 32 Sparse 9.912792 0.2592737 16.79125 934.3571 0.2372452 49.39175
1000.813 37.2029
gcc 8 64 Sparse 12.61929 0.2336042 8.2316 632.839 0.1113939 52.21551
693.4153 13.94034


My PETSc in stallation configuration is like this:

export PETSC_DIR=/X/petsc
export PETSC_ARCH=arch-real

./configure PETSC_DIR=/X/petsc \
prefix=/X/petsc/petsc-install \
PETSC_ARCH=arch-real  \
--with-debugging=0 \
--with-cc=/Y/progs/openmpi/openmpi-3.0.0-gcc-7.1.0/bin/mpicc \
--with-cxx=/Y/progs/openmpi/openmpi-3.0.0-gcc-7.1.0/bin/mpicxx \
--with-fc=/Y/progs/openmpi/openmpi-3.0.0-gcc-7.1.0/bin/mpif90 \
--with-valgrind=1 \
--with-valgrind-dir=/X/root/usr/local/valgrind-3.13.0 \
--with-hwloc-dir=/X/root/usr/local/hwloc-1.11.9 \
--with-blas-lapack-dir=/Y/progs/intel/compilers_and_libraries_2017.0.098/linux/mkl/lib/intel64.

*My slurm scrpt content is like this:*

#!/bin/bash -l
#SBATCH -J "Paudik16"
#SBATCH -A X
#SBATCH -p X
#SBATCH --exclusive
#SBATCH -o Paudik_8_2_16.%j.out
#SBATCH -e Paudik_8_2_16.%j.err

#SBATCH -N 8
#SBATCH --ntasks-per-node=2
#SBATCH --cpus-per-task=1

export KMP_AFFINITY=verbose,disabled
export MKL_NUM_THREADS=${SLURM_CPUS_PER_TASK}
export OMP_NUM_THREADS=${SLURM_CPUS_PER_TASK}

module purge

module load gcc/7.1.0
module load mpi/openmpi-3.0.0-gcc-7.1.0
module load intel/mkl_2017.0.098

file=input.in
matrixFile=~/dataDir/ijv/audikw_1.ijv

mpirun -np  $SLURM_NTASKS ./dtest_pdslin $file $matrixFile



*I attached an output of one file along with the input configuration of
PDSLin.*

Any idea of how to enhance these results.

Note  in PDSLin, I tried with parallel Schur permutation but I got the
following error :

[1]PETSC ERROR:

[1]PETSC ERROR: Caught signal number 8 FPE: Floating Point
E/Xception,probably divide by zero
[1]PETSC ERROR: Try option -start_in_debugger or -on_error_attach_debugger
[1]PETSC ERROR: or see
http://www.mcs.anl.gov/petsc/documentation/faq.html#valgrind
[1]PETSC ERROR: or try http://valgrind.org on GNU/linu/X and Apple Mac OS
/X to find memory corruption errors
[1]PETSC ERROR: configure using --with-debugging=yes, recompile, link, and
run
[1]PETSC ERROR: to get more information on the crash.
[1]PETSC ERROR: - Error Message
--
--
MPI_ABORT was invoked on rank 1 in communicator MPI_COMM_WORLD
with errorcode 59.

NOTE: invoking MPI_ABORT causes Open MPI to kill all MPI processes.
You may or may not see output from other processes, depending on
e/Xactly when Open MPI kills them.
--
[13]PETSC ERROR:

[13]PETSC ERROR: Caught signal number 8 FPE: Floating Point
E/Xception,probably divide by zero
[13]PETSC ERROR: Try option -start_in_debugger or -on_error_attach_debugger
[13]PETSC ERROR: or see
http://www.mcs.anl.gov/petsc/documentation/faq.html#valgrind
[13]PETSC ERROR: or try http://valgrind.org on GNU/linu/X and Apple Mac OS
/X to find memory corruption errors
[13]PETSC ERROR: configure using --with-debugging=yes, recompile, link, and
run
[13]PETSC ERROR: to get more information on the crash.
[11]PETSC ERROR:

[11]PETSC ERROR: Caught signal number 8 FPE: Floating Point
E/Xception,probably divide by zero
[11]PETSC ERROR: Try option -start_in_debugger or -on_error_attach_debugger
[11]PETSC ERROR: or see
http://www.mcs.anl.gov/petsc/documentation/faq.html#valgrind
[11]PETSC ERROR: or try http://valgrind.org on GNU/linu/X and Apple Mac OS
/X to find memory corruption errors
[11]PETSC ERROR: configure using --with-debugging=yes, recompile, link, and
run
[11]PETSC ERROR: to get more information on the crash.
[3]PETSC ERROR:

[3]PETSC ERROR: Caught signal number 8 FPE: Floating Point
E/Xception,probably divide by zero
[3]PETSC ERROR: Try option -start_in_debugger or -on_error_attach_debugger
[3]PETSC ERROR: or see
http://www.mcs.anl.gov/petsc/documentation/faq.html#valgrind
[3]PETSC ERROR: 

[petsc-users] Evaluation of Hybrid solvers ... test matrices

[Afrah Najib]

Dir dirs,

I am working on evaluation of hybrid solvers including PDSLin  which us
Krylov method of PETSc as a dependency but I did not find the matrices used
for evaluating these solvers used in literature namely, Matrix211
, Tdr455k ,Tdr190kI ... they seem not to be publically available ,

Do you have any idea how can I find them
thank you

[petsc-users] About PDSLin examples

[Afrah Najib]

Hi,

In the examples of PDSLin 2.0.0 , the input file setting, if we set the
matrix type to be symmetric and input type to be INPUT_IJV, does that mean
half of the matrix should be given like MM or the whole matrix as matrix
input ?

thank you

[petsc-users] PDSLin 2.0.0 example memory corruption error

[Afrah Najib]

Hi,
I am trying to run the examples of PDSLin 2.0.0[
http://portal.nersc.gov/project/sparse/pdslin/]

but I got the following error:

:~/pdslin_2.0.0/examples$ mpiexec -n 8 ./dtest input matrices/U.dat
 input->num_doms  = 4
Preconditioner parameters:
 input->nproc_dcomp   = 4
 input->nproc_schur   = 4
 input->free_local= PDSLin_NO
 input->dcomp_type= SCOTCH
 input->diag_tau  = 0.00e+00
 input->tau_sub   = 0.00e+00
 input->drop_tau0 = 1.00e-02
 input->drop_tau2 = 0.00e+00
 input->drop_tau1 = 1.00e-03
 input->drop_tau3 = 0.00e+00
 input->ilu_lvl   = -1
 input->equil_dom= 0 (no equil or row perm).
 input->perm_dom  = 0
 input->mat_type  = UNSYMMETRIC
 input->mat_pattern   = UNSYMMETRIC
 input->blk_size  = 1
 input->equil_schur   = 5
 input->relax_factor  = 3.00e-01
 input->pperm_schur   = PDSLin_YES
 input->psymb_schur   = PDSLin_YES
 input->dom_solver= SLU_DIST
Schur solution parameters:
 input->inner_outer   = PDSLin_NO
 input->outer_tol = 1.00e-12
 input->outer_max = 50
 input->schur_itrs= PDSLin_NO
 input->exact_schur   = PDSLin_NO
 input->direct_schur  = PDSLin_NO
 input->explicit_restart  = PDSLin_NO
 input->inner_max = 500
 input->inner_restart = 60
 input->inner_tol = 1.00e-12
 input->inner_solver  = PDSLin_FGMRES
 dtest(): reading in matrix from matrices/U.dat
 took 1.785858e-01 seconds to read matrix.

**


 dtest: factorizing the matrix.
PARMETIS ERROR: Poor initial vertex distribution. Processor 2 has no
vertices assigned to it!
PARMETIS ERROR: Poor initial vertex distribution. Processor 3 has no
vertices assigned to it!
[0]PETSC ERROR:

[0]PETSC ERROR: Caught signal number 11 SEGV: Segmentation Violation,
probably memory access out of range
[0]PETSC ERROR: Try option -start_in_debugger or -on_error_attach_debugger
[0]PETSC ERROR: or see
http://www.mcs.anl.gov/petsc/documentation/faq.html#valgrind
[0]PETSC ERROR: or try http://valgrind.org on GNU/linux and Apple Mac OS X
to find memory corruption errors
[0]PETSC ERROR: likely location of problem given in stack below
[0]PETSC ERROR: -  Stack Frames

[0]PETSC ERROR: Note: The EXACT line numbers in the stack are not available,
[0]PETSC ERROR:   INSTEAD the line number of the start of the function
[0]PETSC ERROR:   is given.
[0]PETSC ERROR: - Error Message
--
[0]PETSC ERROR: Signal received
[0]PETSC ERROR: See http://www.mcs.anl.gov/petsc/documentation/faq.html for
trouble shooting.
[0]PETSC ERROR: Petsc Release Version 3.7.6, Apr, 24, 2017
[0]PETSC ERROR: ./dtest on a arch-linux2-c-debug named afrah-pc by afrah
Fri Sep 15 13:53:42 2017
[0]PETSC ERROR: Configure options
PETSC_DIR=/home/afrah/PETSc-library2/petsc-3.7.6
PETSC_ARCH=arch-linux2-c-debug
prefix=/home/afrah/PETSc-library2/petsc-3.7.6/source --with-cc=mpicc
--with-cxx=mpicxx --with-fc=mpif90 --download-blacs --download-scalapack=1
--download-mumps=1 --with-valgrind=1 --with-valgrind-dir="[/usr/local/bin]"
[0]PETSC ERROR: #1 User provided function() line 0 in  unknown file
application called MPI_Abort(MPI_COMM_WORLD, 59) - process 0
[1]PETSC ERROR:

[1]PETSC ERROR: Caught signal number 11 SEGV: Segmentation Violation,
probably memory access out of range
[1]PETSC ERROR: Try option -start_in_debugger or -on_error_attach_debugger
[1]PETSC ERROR: or see
http://www.mcs.anl.gov/petsc/documentation/faq.html#valgrind
[1]PETSC ERROR: or try http://valgrind.org on GNU/linux and Apple Mac OS X
to find memory corruption errors
[1]PETSC ERROR: likely location of problem given in stack below
[1]PETSC ERROR: -  Stack Frames

[1]PETSC ERROR: Note: The EXACT line numbers in the stack are not available,
[1]PETSC ERROR:   INSTEAD the line number of the start of the function
[1]PETSC ERROR:   is given.
[1]PETSC ERROR: - Error Message
--
[1]PETSC ERROR: Signal received
[1]PETSC ERROR: See http://www.mcs.anl.gov/petsc/documentation/faq.html for
trouble shooting.
[1]PETSC ERROR: Petsc Release Version 3.7.6, Apr, 24, 2017
[1]PETSC ERROR: ./dtest on a arch-linux2-c-debug named afrah-pc by afrah
Fri Sep 15 13:53:42 2017
[1]PETSC ERROR: Configure options
PETSC_DIR=/home/afrah/PETSc-library2/petsc-3.7.6
PETSC_ARCH=arch-linux2-c-debug
prefix=/home/afrah/PETSc-library2/petsc-3.7.6/source --with-cc=mpicc
--with-cxx=mpicxx --with-fc=mpif90 --download-blacs --download-scalapack=1
--download-mumps=1 --with-valgrind=1 --with-valgrind-dir="[/usr/local/bin]"
[1]PETSC ERROR: #1 User provided function() line 0 in  

[petsc-users] Tracing PETSc codes

[Afrah Najib]

Hi,
How can I trace PETSc codes to better understand what's going on?

I installed code::blocks [http://www.codeblocks.org/downloads] but I know
that just pressing build/ run with the default options will not help.

Can I trace the codes of PETSc ? Which environment you recommend?

Thanks a lot

Re: [petsc-users] PETSc in PDSLin

[Afrah Najib]

I am compiling PDSLin examples. I installed PETSc with the examples with no
errors. When I use-Wl,-rpath option , I got this error:

:~/pdslin_2.0.0/examples$ make all
/usr/share/mpich-install/bin/mpicc -I/usr/share/mpich-install/include
-I/home/afrah/pdslin_2.0.0/include  -I/home/afrah/SuperLU_DIST_5.1.2/SRC
 -I/usr/include  -I/usr/local/include
 -I/home/afrah/PETSc-library2/petsc-3.7.6/source/include
-I/home/afrah/PETSc-library2/petsc-3.7.6-complex/source/include
-I/home/afrah/scotch-6.0.4/include -c dtest.c -o dtest.o -g -O0 -fopenmp
-std=c99 -DWITH_PETSC
dtest.c: In function ‘main’:
dtest.c:53:20: warning: implicit declaration of function
‘pdslin_print_input’ [-Wimplicit-function-declaration]
if ( !proc_id ) pdslin_print_input();
^
dtest.c:127:39: warning: implicit declaration of function
‘pdslin_print_stat’ [-Wimplicit-function-declaration]
if( input.verbose == PDSLin_VALL ) pdslin_print_stat( ,
matrix.pdslin_comm );
   ^
/usr/share/mpich-install/bin/mpicc -fopenmp  dtest.o
 -L/usr/share/mpich-install/lib/libmpi.a
/home/afrah/pdslin_2.0.0/lib/libpdslin.a -lm -llapack -lblas
-Wl,-rpath,/home/afrah/SuperLU_DIST_5.1.2/lib
-L/home/afrah/SuperLU_DIST_5.1.2/lib -lsuperlu_dist
-Wl,-rpath,/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib -lmetis
 -Wl,-rpath,/usr/share/parmetis/lib -L/usr/share/parmetis/lib -lparmetis
-Wl,-rpath,/home/afrah/PETSc-library2/petsc-3.7.6/source/lib
-L/home/afrah/PETSc-library2/petsc-3.7.6/source/lib -llibpetsc  -o dtest -g
-O0 -fopenmp -std=c99 -DWITH_PETSC
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -llibpetsc
collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
makefile:10: recipe for target 'dtest' failed
make: *** [dtest] Error 1


On 1 September 2017 at 16:19, Matthew Knepley <knep...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 5:48 AM, Afrah Najib <afrah.na...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I want to use use PETSc in a hybrid solver(direct- iterative) called
>> PDSLin 2.0.0.[http://portal.nersc.gov/project/sparse/pdslin/]
>>
>> the version of PETSc used is petsc3.7.6. When running the examples, I got
>> the following errors:
>>
>>
>>
>> :~/pdslin_2.0.0/examples$ make all
>> /usr/share/mpich-install/bin/mpicc -I/usr/share/mpich-install/include
>> -I/home/afrah/pdslin_2.0.0/include  -I/home/afrah/SuperLU_DIST_5.1.2/SRC
>>-I/usr/include  -I/usr/local/include  
>> -I/home/afrah/PETSc-library2/petsc-3.7.6/source/include
>> -I/home/afrah/PETSc-library2/petsc-3.7.6-complex/source/include
>> -I/home/afrah/scotch-6.0.4/include -c dtest.c -o dtest.o -g -O0 -fopenmp
>> -std=c99 -DWITH_PETSC
>> dtest.c: In function ‘main’:
>> dtest.c:53:20: warning: implicit declaration of function
>> ‘pdslin_print_input’ [-Wimplicit-function-declaration]
>> if ( !proc_id ) pdslin_print_input();
>> ^
>> dtest.c:127:39: warning: implicit declaration of function
>> ‘pdslin_print_stat’ [-Wimplicit-function-declaration]
>> if( input.verbose == PDSLin_VALL ) pdslin_print_stat( 
>>
>
> Note that below, you do not have -lpetsc. I would recommend using the
> PETSc makefiles, but you can also run 'make getlinklibs' to the correct
> link line.
>
>   Thanks,
>
> Matt
>
>
>>   ^
>> /usr/share/mpich-install/bin/mpicc -fopenmp  dtest.o
>>  -L/usr/share/mpich-install/lib/libmpi.a 
>> /home/afrah/pdslin_2.0.0/lib/libpdslin.a
>> -lm -llapack -lblas -Wl,-rpath,/home/afrah/SuperLU_DIST_5.1.2/lib
>> -L/home/afrah/SuperLU_DIST_5.1.2/lib -lsuperlu_dist
>> -Wl,-rpath,/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib -lmetis
>>  -Wl,-rpath,/usr/share/parmetis/lib -L/usr/share/parmetis/lib -lparmetis
>> -L/home/afrah/PETSc-library2/petsc-3.7.6/source/lib/libpetsc.so  -o
>> dtest -g -O0 -fopenmp -std=c99 -DWITH_PETSC
>> /home/afrah/pdslin_2.0.0/lib/libpdslin.a(dpdslin_core.o): In function
>> `PetscMPITypeSizeComm':
>> /home/afrah/PETSc-library2/petsc-3.7.6/source/include/petsclog.h:328:
>> undefined reference to `PetscError'
>> /home/afrah/PETSc-library2/petsc-3.7.6/source/include/petsclog.h:329:
>> undefined reference to `PetscError'
>> /home/afrah/pdslin_2.0.0/lib/libpdslin.a(dpdslin_core.o): In function
>> `dcomp_schur':
>> /home/afrah/pdslin_2.0.0/src/dpdslin_core.c:92: undefined reference to
>> `petsc_gather_ct'
>> /home/afrah/pdslin_2.0.0/src/dpdslin_core.c:92: undefined reference to
>> `petsc_gather_ct'
>> /home/afrah/pdslin_2.0.0/src/dpdslin_core.c:121: undefined reference to
>> `petsc_gather_ct'
>> /home/afrah/pdslin_2.0.0/src/dpdslin_core.c:121: undefined reference to
>> `petsc_gather_ct'
>> /home/afrah/pdslin_2.0.0/src/dpdslin_core.c:129: undefined reference to
>> `petsc_gather_ct'
>&g

[petsc-users] PETSc in PDSLin

[Afrah Najib]

I want to use use PETSc in a hybrid solver(direct- iterative) called PDSLin
2.0.0.[http://portal.nersc.gov/project/sparse/pdslin/]

the version of PETSc used is petsc3.7.6. When running the examples, I got
the following errors:



:~/pdslin_2.0.0/examples$ make all
/usr/share/mpich-install/bin/mpicc -I/usr/share/mpich-install/include
-I/home/afrah/pdslin_2.0.0/include  -I/home/afrah/SuperLU_DIST_5.1.2/SRC
 -I/usr/include  -I/usr/local/include
-I/home/afrah/PETSc-library2/petsc-3.7.6/source/include
-I/home/afrah/PETSc-library2/petsc-3.7.6-complex/source/include
-I/home/afrah/scotch-6.0.4/include -c dtest.c -o dtest.o -g -O0 -fopenmp
-std=c99 -DWITH_PETSC
dtest.c: In function ‘main’:
dtest.c:53:20: warning: implicit declaration of function
‘pdslin_print_input’ [-Wimplicit-function-declaration]
if ( !proc_id ) pdslin_print_input();
^
dtest.c:127:39: warning: implicit declaration of function
‘pdslin_print_stat’ [-Wimplicit-function-declaration]
if( input.verbose == PDSLin_VALL ) pdslin_print_stat( 
   ^
/usr/share/mpich-install/bin/mpicc -fopenmp  dtest.o
 -L/usr/share/mpich-install/lib/libmpi.a
/home/afrah/pdslin_2.0.0/lib/libpdslin.a
-lm -llapack -lblas -Wl,-rpath,/home/afrah/SuperLU_DIST_5.1.2/lib
-L/home/afrah/SuperLU_DIST_5.1.2/lib -lsuperlu_dist
-Wl,-rpath,/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib -lmetis
-Wl,-rpath,/usr/share/parmetis/lib
-L/usr/share/parmetis/lib -lparmetis -L/home/afrah/PETSc-library2/
petsc-3.7.6/source/lib/libpetsc.so  -o dtest -g -O0 -fopenmp -std=c99
-DWITH_PETSC
/home/afrah/pdslin_2.0.0/lib/libpdslin.a(dpdslin_core.o): In function
`PetscMPITypeSizeComm':
/home/afrah/PETSc-library2/petsc-3.7.6/source/include/petsclog.h:328:
undefined reference to `PetscError'
/home/afrah/PETSc-library2/petsc-3.7.6/source/include/petsclog.h:329:
undefined reference to `PetscError'
/home/afrah/pdslin_2.0.0/lib/libpdslin.a(dpdslin_core.o): In function
`dcomp_schur':
/home/afrah/pdslin_2.0.0/src/dpdslin_core.c:92: undefined reference to
`petsc_gather_ct'
/home/afrah/pdslin_2.0.0/src/dpdslin_core.c:92: undefined reference to
`petsc_gather_ct'
/home/afrah/pdslin_2.0.0/src/dpdslin_core.c:121: undefined reference to
`petsc_gather_ct'
/home/afrah/pdslin_2.0.0/src/dpdslin_core.c:121: undefined reference to
`petsc_gather_ct'
/home/afrah/pdslin_2.0.0/src/dpdslin_core.c:129: undefined reference to
`petsc_gather_ct'
/home/afrah/pdslin_2.0.0/lib/libpdslin.a(dpdslin_core.o):/
home/afrah/pdslin_2.0.0/src/dpdslin_core.c:129: more undefined references
to `petsc_gather_ct' follow
/home/afrah/pdslin_2.0.0/lib/libpdslin.a(dpdslin_core.o): In function
`dcomp_sol':
/home/afrah/pdslin_2.0.0/src/dpdslin_core.c:486: undefined reference to
`petsc_allreduce_ct'
/home/afrah/pdslin_2.0.0/src/dpdslin_core.c:486: undefined reference to
`petsc_allreduce_ct'
/home/afrah/pdslin_2.0.0/src/dpdslin_core.c:495: undefined reference to
`petsc_allreduce_ct'
/home/afrah/pdslin_2.0.0/src/dpdslin_core.c:495: undefined reference to
`petsc_allreduce_ct'
/home/afrah/pdslin_2.0.0/src/dpdslin_core.c:496: undefined reference to
`petsc_allreduce_ct'
/home/afrah/pdslin_2.0.0/lib/libpdslin.a(dpdslin_core.o):/
home/afrah/pdslin_2.0.0/src/dpdslin_core.c:496: more undefined references
to `petsc_allreduce_ct' follow
/home/afrah/pdslin_2.0.0/lib/libpdslin.a(dpdslin_core.o): In function
`dcomp_sol':
/home/afrah/pdslin_2.0.0/src/dpdslin_core.c:614: undefined reference to
`petsc_gather_ct'
/home/afrah/pdslin_2.0.0/src/dpdslin_core.c:614: undefined reference to
`petsc_gather_ct'
/home/afrah/pdslin_2.0.0/src/dpdslin_core.c:625: undefined reference to
`petsc_allreduce_ct'
/home/afrah/pdslin_2.0.0/src/dpdslin_core.c:625: undefined reference to
`petsc_allreduce_ct'
/home/afrah/pdslin_2.0.0/src/dpdslin_core.c:625: undefined reference to
`petsc_send_len'
/home/afrah/pdslin_2.0.0/src/dpdslin_core.c:659: undefined reference to
`petsc_allreduce_ct'
/home/afrah/pdslin_2.0.0/src/dpdslin_core.c:659: undefined reference to
`petsc_allreduce_ct'
/home/afrah/pdslin_2.0.0/src/dpdslin_core.c:793: undefined reference to
`petsc_allreduce_ct'
/home/afrah/pdslin_2.0.0/src/dpdslin_core.c:793: undefined reference to
`petsc_allreduce_ct'
/home/afrah/pdslin_2.0.0/src/dpdslin_core.c:793: undefined reference to
`petsc_send_len'
/home/afrah/pdslin_2.0.0/src/dpdslin_core.c:795: undefined reference to
`petsc_allreduce_ct'
/home/afrah/pdslin_2.0.0/src/dpdslin_core.c:795: undefined reference to
`petsc_allreduce_ct'
/home/afrah/pdslin_2.0.0/src/dpdslin_core.c:795: undefined reference to
`petsc_send_len'
/home/afrah/pdslin_2.0.0/src/dpdslin_core.c:803: undefined reference to
`petsc_gather_ct'
/home/afrah/pdslin_2.0.0/src/dpdslin_core.c:803: undefined reference to
`petsc_gather_ct'
/home/afrah/pdslin_2.0.0/src/dpdslin_core.c:812: undefined reference to
`petsc_allreduce_ct'
/home/afrah/pdslin_2.0.0/src/dpdslin_core.c:812: undefined reference to
`petsc_allreduce_ct'
/home/afrah/pdslin_2.0.0/src/dpdslin_core.c:862: undefined reference to

Re: ~ aga ~ kok sepiiiii ???

[Najib]

hooh pict nya bagiii


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Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 8:14:52 AM
To: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ~ aga ~ kok sepi ???

Kirim2 pic bro biar rame :)

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Subject: ~ aga ~ kok sepi ???

Ya...kok sepi lagi 



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RE: ~ aga ~ RE: Numpang nanya

[Najib]

Iyamailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of mirza bona
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Subject: Re: ~ aga ~ RE: Numpang nanya

wakakakaa...

kasih no can lah buat najib... kalo bisa jangan bekasi aja.. semua daerah lah..




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<aga-madjid@googlegroups.com<mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
Oiya, baru gw cek…
Maaf Jib….
☺



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Subject: ~ aga ~ RE: Numpang nanya

Pan udah kamprettt….

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Subject: ~ aga ~ RE: Numpang nanya

No can ??
Bayar Utang dulu woy 









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Subject: ~ aga ~ Numpang nanya

Permisi rekan-rekan,

Cuma mau nanya, ada yang punya No Can daerah bekasi ?
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~ aga ~ Numpang nanya

[Najib]

Permisi rekan-rekan,

Cuma mau nanya, ada yang punya No Can daerah bekasi ?

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[Bug 1659274] [NEW] package steam (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 1

[najib]

*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 1656989 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1656989

Public bug reported:

Error notification appears when computer successfully boot.

ProblemType: Package
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 16.10
Package: steam (not installed)
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 4.8.0-36.38-generic 4.8.16
Uname: Linux 4.8.0-36-generic i686
ApportVersion: 2.20.3-0ubuntu8.2
AptOrdering:
 steam:i386: Install
 NULL: ConfigurePending
Architecture: i386
Date: Wed Jan 25 05:22:10 2017
DpkgTerminalLog:
 Preparing to unpack .../steam_1%3a1.0.0.52-5ubuntu1_i386.deb ...
 dpkg: error processing archive 
/var/cache/apt/archives/steam_1%3a1.0.0.52-5ubuntu1_i386.deb (--unpack):
  subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 1
DuplicateSignature:
 package:steam:(not installed)
 Preparing to unpack .../steam_1%3a1.0.0.52-5ubuntu1_i386.deb ...
 dpkg: error processing archive 
/var/cache/apt/archives/steam_1%3a1.0.0.52-5ubuntu1_i386.deb (--unpack):
  subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 1
ErrorMessage: subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 
1
InstallationDate: Installed on 2017-01-24 (0 days ago)
InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 16.10 "Yakkety Yak" - Release i386 (20161012.2)
RelatedPackageVersions:
 dpkg 1.18.10ubuntu1
 apt  1.3.4
SourcePackage: steam
Title: package steam (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: subprocess new 
pre-installation script returned error exit status 1
UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)

** Affects: steam (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New


** Tags: apport-package i386 yakkety

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Look for text in pdf file and then extract it

[Najib Sahyoun]

?Hello,


I am Najib Sahyoun, PhD student in accounting.


I am looking for an application that looks for a specific term (i.e. board of 
directors) and then will extract all the sentences that include the term (board 
of directors).


Does your application perform this?


Thanks and best regards,

Najib

RE: ~ aga ~ Loker HRD

[Najib]

Gue..gue..gue…Cuma umur gue baru 32…hadehhh..

From: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com [mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of ryesya rasady
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 1:40 PM
To: aga-madjid
Cc: narko
Subject: Re: ~ aga ~ Loker HRD

Alhamdulillah damang Eka...
Eka damel di mana ayeuna ?
tos sabaraha putra ?
Okeh, Nuhun nya info nya, ntar biasr manajemen yang call Eka nya...

Buat yang Lain, Maaf baru ada Loker HRD aja...
Btw ada yang lain gak ya yang mau daftar.. :)
Yo, marie ditunggu
salam,
risa



2016-01-12 11:17 GMT+07:00 'Fathu Surur' via aga-madjid 
>:

Heheh...sory salah nangkep...



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On Sel, Jan 12, 2016 at 11:14, narko
> wrote:
Maksudnya buat gw …. Ada gak
Xixixixixixi
Bosen nich . Pengen yang baru



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[mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 11:10 AM
To: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ~ aga ~ Loker HRD

Blom nyampe ilmunya bro
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On Sel, Jan 12, 2016 at 11:05, narko
> wrote:
Untuk engineer atau planer maint gak


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Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 10:52 AM
To: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com; Eka 
Prasetia; aga-madjid@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ~ aga ~ Loker HRD

Ada untuk drafter/designer ga civil structure
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> wrote:
umur belum 35 nih hehehe

2016-01-12 10:37 GMT+07:00 ryesya rasady 
>:
Agaers,
kumaha daramang ? :)
maaf mau info ada loker untuk HRD Manager atau Asmen manager
untuk di perusahaan Manufacturing..

1. Laki-laki
2. Umur antara 35 ~ 50 tahun
3. Mengerti Hukum terutama yang berkaitan dengan kepegawaian.
4. Mengerti Undang2 kepegawaian
5. Punya Leadrship
6. Bersedia di tempatkan di daerah Jababeka Cikarang..
7. Apabia berminat, bisa memberikan no HP ( Japri ke saya ), nanti dari 
manajemen akan meng hubungi..

Demikian informasinya..
Hatur nuhun..
salam,
risa



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RE: ~ aga ~ nilai Inflasi

[Najib]

Sumber dong ka..kasih sumbernya…

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gw browsing di angka 4% katanya.

On 4 January 2016 at 10:18, Najib 
<na...@seid.sharp-world.com<mailto:na...@seid.sharp-world.com>> wrote:
Lagi diitung…. Status sekarang sih katanya Cuma 3,3%

http://finance.detik.com/read/2016/01/04/095614/3109845/4/inflasi-33-di-2015-jokowi-tiap-malam-saya-telepon-mentan-dan-mendag

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Dear Agaers,
Tanya dong, Ada Yang tau nilai inflasi taun 2015 berapa?

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RE: ~ aga ~ nilai Inflasi

[Najib]

That’s it…liat kemampuan perusahaan juga bro…kalo emang rugi, ya jgn dipaksa jg…

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Thanks bro Najib...
Kalau itu diterapin kenaikan gajinya cukup besar , tapi bisa “hancurin” 
perusahaan juga loh...

Lagi bingung neh mau ajuin brp %...
Kondisi gaji juga dah ngak berimbang sama harga2 yg lain..


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Subject: Re: ~ aga ~ nilai Inflasi

kalo Indeks appraisal perusahaan itungan nya di angka 4 total nya gmn tuh Om 
najib? kecil2 juga dong naik nya haha
anggep aja 3,35% + 3% (Hasil Appraisal) hadeuhhh

On 4 January 2016 at 13:14, Najib 
<na...@seid.sharp-world.com<mailto:na...@seid.sharp-world.com>> wrote:
Contohnya :

Tahun 2014 misal UMSP kita 2,2jt, nah kenaikan 2015 2,7jt, inflasi 8% jadi 
itungannya :

Selisih UMSP 1 tahun : 2,7-2,2 = 500rb + 8% + prestasi kerja (biasannya A,B,C = 
7%,8%,9%),

Itungan kayak gini masih worth it lah untuk sekelas Logistik,otomotif,tambang,

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Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 1:07 PM

To: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com<mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: ~ aga ~ nilai Inflasi


Iya koh klo cuma inflasi aja ya gitu ha-ha
Tp biàsanya tiap persh ada komponen lain selain nilai inflasi hahaa
On Jan 4, 2016 1:00 PM, "Ear.One" 
<ear.one...@gmail.com<mailto:ear.one...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Bro Eka, 3,35% kecil bgt atuh...
Gaji 3jt Cuma naik 100rb??

Bro Najib..

Kasih contoh dong itungan u...

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Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 12:52 PM
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Subject: RE: ~ aga ~ nilai Inflasi

Lebih dikit…

Sekarang aje yang udah ketauan gue pake angka UMSP kerawang selisihnya 
600rebu…udah depan mata….tinggal yang laen laen…tinggal nunggu pabrik tutup aja

From: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com<mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eka Prasetia
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 12:37 PM
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Subject: RE: ~ aga ~ nilai Inflasi


Umsp = Upah Minimum Se Pabrik? Hahaa
Nyampe 15% on najib?
On Jan 4, 2016 12:33 PM, "Najib" 
<na...@seid.sharp-world.com<mailto:na...@seid.sharp-world.com>> wrote:
Kalo perhitungan kantor gue

Selisih UMSP (bukan UMP)+inflasi+prosentase prestasi

From: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com<mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com> 
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Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 12:31 PM
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Subject: RE: ~ aga ~ nilai Inflasi


Mnurut bps 3,35 %. Itu aja koh irwan hahaha
On Jan 4, 2016 12:11 PM, "Ear.One" 
<ear.one...@gmail.com<mailto:ear.one...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Thanks Bro Najib and Bro Ase.. ☺
Kenaikan gaji brp % neh, dah dpt info kah?



From: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com<mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com> 
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Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 12:01 PM
To: 'aga-madjid@googlegroups.com<mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com>' 
<aga-madjid@googlegroups.com<mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: ~ aga ~ nilai Inflasi

Trakhir sih gw baca SK nya UMR Jkt jadinya Rp.3,1 jt perbulan

From: Ear.One [mailto:ear.one...@gmail.com<mailto:ear.one...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 11:34 AM
To: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com<mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com> 
<aga-madjid@googlegroups.com<mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: RE: ~ aga ~ nilai Inflasi

UMR JKT jadi berapa yah?

Biasanya kenaikan gaji ikutin inflasi, masa Cuma 4% kenaikan gajinya ☹

From: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com<mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com<mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com>] On 
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Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 10:40 AM
To: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com<mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: ~ aga ~ nilai Inflasi

masih analisa ternyata haha
mau bikin proyeksi perubahan salary ini haha

On 4 January 2016 at 10:26, Najib 
<na...@seid.sharp-world.com&

RE: ~ aga ~ nilai Inflasi

[Najib]

Contohnya :

Tahun 2014 misal UMSP kita 2,2jt, nah kenaikan 2015 2,7jt, inflasi 8% jadi 
itungannya :

Selisih UMSP 1 tahun : 2,7-2,2 = 500rb + 8% + prestasi kerja (biasannya A,B,C = 
7%,8%,9%),

Itungan kayak gini masih worth it lah untuk sekelas Logistik,otomotif,tambang,

From: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com [mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Eka Prasetia
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 1:07 PM
To: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ~ aga ~ nilai Inflasi


Iya koh klo cuma inflasi aja ya gitu ha-ha
Tp biàsanya tiap persh ada komponen lain selain nilai inflasi hahaa
On Jan 4, 2016 1:00 PM, "Ear.One" 
<ear.one...@gmail.com<mailto:ear.one...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Bro Eka, 3,35% kecil bgt atuh...
Gaji 3jt Cuma naik 100rb??

Bro Najib..

Kasih contoh dong itungan u...

From: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com<mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com<mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com>] On 
Behalf Of Najib
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 12:52 PM
To: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com<mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: ~ aga ~ nilai Inflasi

Lebih dikit…

Sekarang aje yang udah ketauan gue pake angka UMSP kerawang selisihnya 
600rebu…udah depan mata….tinggal yang laen laen…tinggal nunggu pabrik tutup aja

From: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com<mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eka Prasetia
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 12:37 PM
To: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com<mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: ~ aga ~ nilai Inflasi


Umsp = Upah Minimum Se Pabrik? Hahaa
Nyampe 15% on najib?
On Jan 4, 2016 12:33 PM, "Najib" 
<na...@seid.sharp-world.com<mailto:na...@seid.sharp-world.com>> wrote:
Kalo perhitungan kantor gue

Selisih UMSP (bukan UMP)+inflasi+prosentase prestasi

From: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com<mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com<mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com>] On 
Behalf Of Eka Prasetia
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 12:31 PM
To: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com<mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: ~ aga ~ nilai Inflasi


Mnurut bps 3,35 %. Itu aja koh irwan hahaha
On Jan 4, 2016 12:11 PM, "Ear.One" 
<ear.one...@gmail.com<mailto:ear.one...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Thanks Bro Najib and Bro Ase.. ☺
Kenaikan gaji brp % neh, dah dpt info kah?



From: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com<mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com<mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com>] On 
Behalf Of Anthonius Asean
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 12:01 PM
To: 'aga-madjid@googlegroups.com<mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com>' 
<aga-madjid@googlegroups.com<mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: ~ aga ~ nilai Inflasi

Trakhir sih gw baca SK nya UMR Jkt jadinya Rp.3,1 jt perbulan

From: Ear.One [mailto:ear.one...@gmail.com<mailto:ear.one...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 11:34 AM
To: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com<mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com> 
<aga-madjid@googlegroups.com<mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: RE: ~ aga ~ nilai Inflasi

UMR JKT jadi berapa yah?

Biasanya kenaikan gaji ikutin inflasi, masa Cuma 4% kenaikan gajinya ☹

From: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com<mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com<mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com>] On 
Behalf Of Eka Prasetia
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 10:40 AM
To: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com<mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: ~ aga ~ nilai Inflasi

masih analisa ternyata haha
mau bikin proyeksi perubahan salary ini haha

On 4 January 2016 at 10:26, Najib 
<na...@seid.sharp-world.com<mailto:na...@seid.sharp-world.com>> wrote:
Sumber dong ka..kasih sumbernya…

From: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com<mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com<mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com>] On 
Behalf Of Eka Prasetia
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 10:22 AM
To: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com<mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: ~ aga ~ nilai Inflasi

gw browsing di angka 4% katanya.

On 4 January 2016 at 10:18, Najib 
<na...@seid.sharp-world.com<mailto:na...@seid.sharp-world.com>> wrote:
Lagi diitung…. Status sekarang sih katanya Cuma 3,3%

http://finance.detik.com/read/2016/01/04/095614/3109845/4/inflasi-33-di-2015-jokowi-tiap-malam-saya-telepon-mentan-dan-mendag

From: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com<mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com<mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com>] On 
Behalf Of Eka Prasetia
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 10:09 AM
To: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com<mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com>
Subject: ~ aga ~ nilai Inflasi

Dear Agaers,
Tanya dong, Ada Yang tau nilai inflasi taun 2015 berapa?

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RE: ~ aga ~ nilai Inflasi

[Najib]

Kalo perhitungan kantor gue

Selisih UMSP (bukan UMP)+inflasi+prosentase prestasi

From: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com [mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Eka Prasetia
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 12:31 PM
To: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ~ aga ~ nilai Inflasi


Mnurut bps 3,35 %. Itu aja koh irwan hahaha
On Jan 4, 2016 12:11 PM, "Ear.One" 
<ear.one...@gmail.com<mailto:ear.one...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Thanks Bro Najib and Bro Ase.. ☺
Kenaikan gaji brp % neh, dah dpt info kah?



From: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com<mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com<mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com>] On 
Behalf Of Anthonius Asean
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 12:01 PM
To: 'aga-madjid@googlegroups.com<mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com>' 
<aga-madjid@googlegroups.com<mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: ~ aga ~ nilai Inflasi

Trakhir sih gw baca SK nya UMR Jkt jadinya Rp.3,1 jt perbulan

From: Ear.One [mailto:ear.one...@gmail.com<mailto:ear.one...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 11:34 AM
To: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com<mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com> 
<aga-madjid@googlegroups.com<mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: RE: ~ aga ~ nilai Inflasi

UMR JKT jadi berapa yah?

Biasanya kenaikan gaji ikutin inflasi, masa Cuma 4% kenaikan gajinya ☹

From: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com<mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com<mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com>] On 
Behalf Of Eka Prasetia
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 10:40 AM
To: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com<mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: ~ aga ~ nilai Inflasi

masih analisa ternyata haha
mau bikin proyeksi perubahan salary ini haha

On 4 January 2016 at 10:26, Najib 
<na...@seid.sharp-world.com<mailto:na...@seid.sharp-world.com>> wrote:
Sumber dong ka..kasih sumbernya…

From: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com<mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com<mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com>] On 
Behalf Of Eka Prasetia
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 10:22 AM
To: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com<mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: ~ aga ~ nilai Inflasi

gw browsing di angka 4% katanya.

On 4 January 2016 at 10:18, Najib 
<na...@seid.sharp-world.com<mailto:na...@seid.sharp-world.com>> wrote:
Lagi diitung…. Status sekarang sih katanya Cuma 3,3%

http://finance.detik.com/read/2016/01/04/095614/3109845/4/inflasi-33-di-2015-jokowi-tiap-malam-saya-telepon-mentan-dan-mendag

From: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com<mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com<mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com>] On 
Behalf Of Eka Prasetia
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 10:09 AM
To: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com<mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com>
Subject: ~ aga ~ nilai Inflasi

Dear Agaers,
Tanya dong, Ada Yang tau nilai inflasi taun 2015 berapa?

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RE: ~ aga ~ nilai Inflasi

[Najib]

Appraisal itu kan tergantung kemampuan perusahaan,

From: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com [mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com] On 
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Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 1:47 PM
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Subject: Re: ~ aga ~ nilai Inflasi

kalo Indeks appraisal perusahaan itungan nya di angka 4 total nya gmn tuh Om 
najib? kecil2 juga dong naik nya haha
anggep aja 3,35% + 3% (Hasil Appraisal) hadeuhhh

On 4 January 2016 at 13:14, Najib 
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Contohnya :

Tahun 2014 misal UMSP kita 2,2jt, nah kenaikan 2015 2,7jt, inflasi 8% jadi 
itungannya :

Selisih UMSP 1 tahun : 2,7-2,2 = 500rb + 8% + prestasi kerja (biasannya A,B,C = 
7%,8%,9%),

Itungan kayak gini masih worth it lah untuk sekelas Logistik,otomotif,tambang,

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Subject: RE: ~ aga ~ nilai Inflasi


Iya koh klo cuma inflasi aja ya gitu ha-ha
Tp biàsanya tiap persh ada komponen lain selain nilai inflasi hahaa
On Jan 4, 2016 1:00 PM, "Ear.One" 
<ear.one...@gmail.com<mailto:ear.one...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Bro Eka, 3,35% kecil bgt atuh...
Gaji 3jt Cuma naik 100rb??

Bro Najib..

Kasih contoh dong itungan u...

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Subject: RE: ~ aga ~ nilai Inflasi

Lebih dikit…

Sekarang aje yang udah ketauan gue pake angka UMSP kerawang selisihnya 
600rebu…udah depan mata….tinggal yang laen laen…tinggal nunggu pabrik tutup aja

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Umsp = Upah Minimum Se Pabrik? Hahaa
Nyampe 15% on najib?
On Jan 4, 2016 12:33 PM, "Najib" 
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Kalo perhitungan kantor gue

Selisih UMSP (bukan UMP)+inflasi+prosentase prestasi

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Mnurut bps 3,35 %. Itu aja koh irwan hahaha
On Jan 4, 2016 12:11 PM, "Ear.One" 
<ear.one...@gmail.com<mailto:ear.one...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Thanks Bro Najib and Bro Ase.. ☺
Kenaikan gaji brp % neh, dah dpt info kah?



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Subject: Re: ~ aga ~ nilai Inflasi

Trakhir sih gw baca SK nya UMR Jkt jadinya Rp.3,1 jt perbulan

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UMR JKT jadi berapa yah?

Biasanya kenaikan gaji ikutin inflasi, masa Cuma 4% kenaikan gajinya ☹

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masih analisa ternyata haha
mau bikin proyeksi perubahan salary ini haha

On 4 January 2016 at 10:26, Najib 
<na...@seid.sharp-world.com<mailto:na...@seid.sharp-world.com>> wrote:
Sumber dong ka..kasih sumbernya…

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gw browsing di angka 4% katanya.

On 4 January 2016 at 10:18, Najib 
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RE: ~ aga ~ nilai Inflasi

[Najib]

DKI Jakarta, menetapkan UMP 2016 sebesar Rp 3.100.000  atau naik 14,81 persen 
dari UMP 2015 sebesar Rp 2.700.000. Penetapan UMP berdasarkan Peraturan 
Gubernur Nomor 230 Tahun 2015 per 30 Oktober 2015.

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UMR JKT jadi berapa yah?

Biasanya kenaikan gaji ikutin inflasi, masa Cuma 4% kenaikan gajinya ☹

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masih analisa ternyata haha
mau bikin proyeksi perubahan salary ini haha

On 4 January 2016 at 10:26, Najib 
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Sumber dong ka..kasih sumbernya…

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gw browsing di angka 4% katanya.

On 4 January 2016 at 10:18, Najib 
<na...@seid.sharp-world.com<mailto:na...@seid.sharp-world.com>> wrote:
Lagi diitung…. Status sekarang sih katanya Cuma 3,3%

http://finance.detik.com/read/2016/01/04/095614/3109845/4/inflasi-33-di-2015-jokowi-tiap-malam-saya-telepon-mentan-dan-mendag

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Dear Agaers,
Tanya dong, Ada Yang tau nilai inflasi taun 2015 berapa?

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RE: ~ aga ~ Info tanah industri daerah Cikarang

[Najib]

Yahhh telat gue….,masih boleh setor gak ???
 
Btw..ni milist ky kamar mayat
 
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Subject: ~ aga ~ Info tanah industri daerah Cikarang
 
Dear All
 
Adakah informasi ada yg mau jual tanah industry di dalam kawasan industry 
cikarang (JB, Lippo, Hyundai, Ejip).
Luas tanah 2 – 5 Hektar, bisa japri ke saya, terima kasih.
 
Salam
 
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~ aga ~ Telegram Comunity

[Najib]

Seiring teknologi yang semakin pesat..aga_madjid kini buka Community di
Media sosial "telegram" bagi temen2 yang gaptek bisa langsung search di
android market ato di app store..biar bisa gue kenalin bahwa itu dari temen
aga.. masukin nomor gue dulu ya 081319785636 ( bukan untuk marketing kartu
kredit).
 
Berhubung dalam waktu dekat ini kita mau ngadain kopdar.maka silahkan masuk
ya.
 
NB: Telegram lebih ringan dari semua medsos yang ada, jadi gak akan lemot
deh

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RE: ~ aga ~ Selamat Idul Fitri

[Najib]

Ayo siape lagi yang mao minta maap sama gue ?
 
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Selamat hari raya Iedul Fitri, mohon maaf lahir batin buat semua yang 
merayakannya.
Terutama buat najib aka onta.
 
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selamat idul fitri untuk teman yang merayakan...
mohon maaf jika ada salah salah kata baik yg disengaja ataupun tidak...
kalau sama najib sih kayaknya banyakan di sengaja :p


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On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 6:09 PM, Deejay noeralu...@gmail.com wrote:
Sama sama ya bro... Met liburan
On Jul 16, 2015 11:41 AM, Anthonius Asean anthoniusas...@pinangcoal.com 
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RE: ~ aga ~ Congratz buat bro Windi tuk kelahiran putrinya, Dhiva Azahra Maharani

[Najib]

Windi selamat ya…buat si mungil lengkap sudah ….
 
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Bro Windi….selamat yah… lengkap sudah hehehe…. J
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RE: ~ aga ~ gen halilintar

[Najib]

Hi Asean,
 
Tolong kirimin REKAPAN LSK dong….
 
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Subject: RE: ~ aga ~ gen halilintar
 
http://www.brilio.net/news/ajak-11-anak-keliling-100-dunia-aksi-gen-halilintar-bikin-ngiri-kesebelasan-gen-halilintar-150420z.html
 
 
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Behalf Of Aris
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Subject: Re: ~ aga ~ gen halilintar
 
Hi Aga,

Tolong kirim article tentang gen halilintar dong.
 



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RE: ~ aga ~ Tanya dong

[Najib]

Secara legal : berhak, silahkan diuber mo ancam pake pengadilan juga oke.
Secara benefit : worth it ato enggak tuh ngejar2 tu orang.
 
From: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com [mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Ear.One
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 4:12 PM
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Onta mana neh…
Biasanya muncul ngeliat peluang debt collector hehehe….
 
From: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com [mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Anthonius Asean
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 4:04 PM
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Subject: Re: ~ aga ~ Tanya dong
 
Iyalah...
 
From: Eka Prasetia [mailto:ekapras...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 03:51 PM
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Subject: Re: ~ aga ~ Tanya dong 
 
iya di kontrak gw juga ada itu. nah mksdnya kalo melanggar berarti kita punya 
hak utk ngejar dendan itu kan? 
 
On 21 May 2015 at 15:29, Anthonius Asean anthoniusas...@pinangcoal.com wrote:
Kalo di kantor gw ada pasal ttg Training itu…
Jadi kalo karyawan yg diberikan Training… hrs ttp bekerja selama 1 thn kedepan …
Jika dia melanggar.. maka dia hrs mengembalikan biaya trainingnya ke perusahaan.
 
 

Thanks  warm regards,


Asean
 
 
From: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com [mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Eka Prasetia
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 3:14 PM
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Bro Asean,
Di sesuaikan gmn ya? apa kita berhak untuk mengejar sanksi itu apabila yang 
bersangkutan melanggar?
 
On 21 May 2015 at 15:09, Anthonius Asean anthoniusas...@pinangcoal.com wrote:
Ka,
 
Tinggal disesuaikan aja sanksinya dengan perjanjian yg udah di ttd itu.
 

Thanks  warm regards,


Asean
 
 
From: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com [mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com] On 
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Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 12:34 PM
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Subject: ~ aga ~ Tanya dong
 
Dear Agaers,
klo soal sanksi utk karyawan yang resign sblm masa perjanjian dikarenakan sdh 
di training itu gmn ya? di peraturan kan memang ada tuh apabila perusahaan 
memberikan training ada sanksi apabila karyawan resign sblm masa perjanjian. 
bagaimana dengan denda/sanksi nya? 
thanks, 


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RE: ~ aga ~ KEWAJIBAN PENGGUNAAN RUPIAH DALAM SEMUA TRANSAKSI DI INDONESIA

[Najib]

Analisannya begini :
 
Penjelasannya untuk pasal 21 Hanya berlaku untuk transaksi “non tunai” (liat 
pasal 3 ayat 3). Nah apa2 saja yang dimaksud trnasaksi non tunai ada di 
penjelasan pasal 3 ayat 3, jadi kalo kategori pembayaran gaji di lakukan secara 
non tunai alias transfer, maka pasal 21 ayat 1 bisa dijadikanm acuan, tapi kalo 
mbayar gajinya masih pake lidah alias manual, maka transaksi wajib menggunakan 
rupiah.
 
najib
 
From: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com [mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com] On 
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Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 2:44 PM
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Subject: ~ aga ~ KEWAJIBAN PENGGUNAAN RUPIAH DALAM SEMUA TRANSAKSI DI INDONESIA
 
Najib,
 
Gw mau minta pendapat loe nih,
Berdasarkan bahan sosialisasi terlampir, apakah dengan demikian per 01 Juli 
2015 karyawan yg menerima gaji dalam USD hrs dirubah ke Rupiah ?
 
Karena ada juga 
 
BI Regulation article 21: 
“(1) Perjanjian tertulis mengenai pembayaran atau penyelesaian kewajiban dalam 
valuta asing selain perjanjian tertulis sebagaimana dimaksud dalam Pasal 10 
ayat (3) yang dibuat sebelum tanggal 1 Juli 2015, tetap berlaku sampai dengan 
berakhirnya perjanjian tertulis tersebut.”
 
Dimana kalo gw nangkep, kalo kontrak kerja karyawan itu sebelum 1 Juli 2015 
maka ttp menggunakan currency yg lama dan berlaku sampai masa kontrak di 
perjanjian kerja itu selesai..baru menggunakan rupiah.
 
Gimana menurut loe Jib ?
 

Thanks  warm regards,


Asean
 
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RE: ~ aga ~ KEWAJIBAN PENGGUNAAN RUPIAH DALAM SEMUA TRANSAKSI DI INDONESIA

[Najib]

Yup,
 
karena dipasal 23 tercantum masa berlaku mulai 1 juli 2015, jadi jika ada 
perjanjian sebelumnya maka masih tetap digunakan, sepanjang tidak ada 
kesepakatan anatar kedua belah pihak untuk merubahnya.
 
From: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com [mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Anthonius Asean
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 3:41 PM
To: 'aga-madjid@googlegroups.com'
Subject: Re: ~ aga ~ KEWAJIBAN PENGGUNAAN RUPIAH DALAM SEMUA TRANSAKSI DI 
INDONESIA
 
Oic...
Jadi gini Jib,
Misal ada expat yg kontraknya dari 1 Juni 2015 s/d 30 Mei 2016
Maka dia ttp menggunakan USD smpai dgn Mei 2016?
Dan per 1 Juni 2016 dia sdh hrs pake rupiah?
 
From: Najib [mailto:na...@seid.sharp-world.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 03:30 PM
To: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com aga-madjid@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: ~ aga ~ KEWAJIBAN PENGGUNAAN RUPIAH DALAM SEMUA TRANSAKSI DI 
INDONESIA 
 
Analisannya begini :
 
Penjelasannya untuk pasal 21 Hanya berlaku untuk transaksi “non tunai” (liat 
pasal 3 ayat 3). Nah apa2 saja yang dimaksud trnasaksi non tunai ada di 
penjelasan pasal 3 ayat 3, jadi kalo kategori pembayaran gaji di lakukan secara 
non tunai alias transfer, maka pasal 21 ayat 1 bisa dijadikanm acuan, tapi kalo 
mbayar gajinya masih pake lidah alias manual, maka transaksi wajib menggunakan 
rupiah.
 
najib
 
From: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com [mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Anthonius Asean
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 2:44 PM
To: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com
Subject: ~ aga ~ KEWAJIBAN PENGGUNAAN RUPIAH DALAM SEMUA TRANSAKSI DI INDONESIA
 
Najib,
 
Gw mau minta pendapat loe nih,
Berdasarkan bahan sosialisasi terlampir, apakah dengan demikian per 01 Juli 
2015 karyawan yg menerima gaji dalam USD hrs dirubah ke Rupiah ?
 
Karena ada juga 
 
BI Regulation article 21: 
“(1) Perjanjian tertulis mengenai pembayaran atau penyelesaian kewajiban dalam 
valuta asing selain perjanjian tertulis sebagaimana dimaksud dalam Pasal 10 
ayat (3) yang dibuat sebelum tanggal 1 Juli 2015, tetap berlaku sampai dengan 
berakhirnya perjanjian tertulis tersebut.”
 
Dimana kalo gw nangkep, kalo kontrak kerja karyawan itu sebelum 1 Juli 2015 
maka ttp menggunakan currency yg lama dan berlaku sampai masa kontrak di 
perjanjian kerja itu selesai..baru menggunakan rupiah.
 
Gimana menurut loe Jib ?
 

Thanks  warm regards,


Asean
 
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RE: ~ aga ~ KEWAJIBAN PENGGUNAAN RUPIAH DALAM SEMUA TRANSAKSI DI INDONESIA

[Najib]

Yup, Cuma gak keluar dari Sharp langsung tapi ada kerjasama dengan pihak2 
distributor yang terpercaya.
 
From: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com [mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Anthonius Asean
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 4:30 PM
To: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ~ aga ~ KEWAJIBAN PENGGUNAAN RUPIAH DALAM SEMUA TRANSAKSI DI 
INDONESIA
 
Ok…
Trims Jib…  J
 
Btw.. gw denger2 Sharp mau ngeluarin Handphone ?
 



 
 
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Behalf Of Najib
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 4:03 PM
To: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ~ aga ~ KEWAJIBAN PENGGUNAAN RUPIAH DALAM SEMUA TRANSAKSI DI 
INDONESIA
 
Yup,
 
karena dipasal 23 tercantum masa berlaku mulai 1 juli 2015, jadi jika ada 
perjanjian sebelumnya maka masih tetap digunakan, sepanjang tidak ada 
kesepakatan anatar kedua belah pihak untuk merubahnya.
 
From: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com [mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Anthonius Asean
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 3:41 PM
To: 'aga-madjid@googlegroups.com'
Subject: Re: ~ aga ~ KEWAJIBAN PENGGUNAAN RUPIAH DALAM SEMUA TRANSAKSI DI 
INDONESIA
 
Oic...
Jadi gini Jib,
Misal ada expat yg kontraknya dari 1 Juni 2015 s/d 30 Mei 2016
Maka dia ttp menggunakan USD smpai dgn Mei 2016?
Dan per 1 Juni 2016 dia sdh hrs pake rupiah?
 
From: Najib [mailto:na...@seid.sharp-world.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 03:30 PM
To: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com aga-madjid@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: ~ aga ~ KEWAJIBAN PENGGUNAAN RUPIAH DALAM SEMUA TRANSAKSI DI 
INDONESIA 
 
Analisannya begini :
 
Penjelasannya untuk pasal 21 Hanya berlaku untuk transaksi “non tunai” (liat 
pasal 3 ayat 3). Nah apa2 saja yang dimaksud trnasaksi non tunai ada di 
penjelasan pasal 3 ayat 3, jadi kalo kategori pembayaran gaji di lakukan secara 
non tunai alias transfer, maka pasal 21 ayat 1 bisa dijadikanm acuan, tapi kalo 
mbayar gajinya masih pake lidah alias manual, maka transaksi wajib menggunakan 
rupiah.
 
najib
 
From: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com [mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Anthonius Asean
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 2:44 PM
To: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com
Subject: ~ aga ~ KEWAJIBAN PENGGUNAAN RUPIAH DALAM SEMUA TRANSAKSI DI INDONESIA
 
Najib,
 
Gw mau minta pendapat loe nih,
Berdasarkan bahan sosialisasi terlampir, apakah dengan demikian per 01 Juli 
2015 karyawan yg menerima gaji dalam USD hrs dirubah ke Rupiah ?
 
Karena ada juga 
 
BI Regulation article 21: 
“(1) Perjanjian tertulis mengenai pembayaran atau penyelesaian kewajiban dalam 
valuta asing selain perjanjian tertulis sebagaimana dimaksud dalam Pasal 10 
ayat (3) yang dibuat sebelum tanggal 1 Juli 2015, tetap berlaku sampai dengan 
berakhirnya perjanjian tertulis tersebut.”
 
Dimana kalo gw nangkep, kalo kontrak kerja karyawan itu sebelum 1 Juli 2015 
maka ttp menggunakan currency yg lama dan berlaku sampai masa kontrak di 
perjanjian kerja itu selesai..baru menggunakan rupiah.
 
Gimana menurut loe Jib ?
 

Thanks  warm regards,


Asean
 
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RE: ~ aga ~ KEWAJIBAN PENGGUNAAN RUPIAH DALAM SEMUA TRANSAKSI DI INDONESIA

[Najib]

Pasti yang nanya anak MR..
 
From: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com [mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of yanto.ic
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 7:58 AM
To: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ~ aga ~ KEWAJIBAN PENGGUNAAN RUPIAH DALAM SEMUA TRANSAKSI DI 
INDONESIA
 
galak amatt..
- Original Message - 
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Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 7:55 AM
Subject: RE: ~ aga ~ KEWAJIBAN PENGGUNAAN RUPIAH DALAM SEMUA TRANSAKSI DI 
INDONESIA
 
Kenal, nape mang  ??
 
From: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com [mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Ahmad Syarifudin
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 7:47 AM
To: aga-madjid@googlegroups com
Subject: RE: ~ aga ~ KEWAJIBAN PENGGUNAAN RUPIAH DALAM SEMUA TRANSAKSI DI 
INDONESIA
 
O iy om najib org sharp y...Om najib knal sma bng chairul gak? :-)
On May 20, 2015 7:39 AM, Najib na...@seid.sharp-world.com wrote:
Yup, Cuma gak keluar dari Sharp langsung tapi ada kerjasama dengan pihak2 
distributor yang terpercaya.
 
From: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com [mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Anthonius Asean
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 4:30 PM
To: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ~ aga ~ KEWAJIBAN PENGGUNAAN RUPIAH DALAM SEMUA TRANSAKSI DI 
INDONESIA
 
Ok…
Trims Jib…  J
 
Btw.. gw denger2 Sharp mau ngeluarin Handphone ?
 



 
 
From: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com [mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Najib
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 4:03 PM
To: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ~ aga ~ KEWAJIBAN PENGGUNAAN RUPIAH DALAM SEMUA TRANSAKSI DI 
INDONESIA
 
Yup,
 
karena dipasal 23 tercantum masa berlaku mulai 1 juli 2015, jadi jika ada 
perjanjian sebelumnya maka masih tetap digunakan, sepanjang tidak ada 
kesepakatan anatar kedua belah pihak untuk merubahnya.
 
From: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com [mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Anthonius Asean
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 3:41 PM
To: 'aga-madjid@googlegroups.com'
Subject: Re: ~ aga ~ KEWAJIBAN PENGGUNAAN RUPIAH DALAM SEMUA TRANSAKSI DI 
INDONESIA
 
Oic...
Jadi gini Jib,
Misal ada expat yg kontraknya dari 1 Juni 2015 s/d 30 Mei 2016
Maka dia ttp menggunakan USD smpai dgn Mei 2016?
Dan per 1 Juni 2016 dia sdh hrs pake rupiah?
 
From: Najib [mailto:na...@seid.sharp-world.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 03:30 PM
To: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com aga-madjid@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: ~ aga ~ KEWAJIBAN PENGGUNAAN RUPIAH DALAM SEMUA TRANSAKSI DI 
INDONESIA 
 
Analisannya begini :
 
Penjelasannya untuk pasal 21 Hanya berlaku untuk transaksi “non tunai” (liat 
pasal 3 ayat 3). Nah apa2 saja yang dimaksud trnasaksi non tunai ada di 
penjelasan pasal 3 ayat 3, jadi kalo kategori pembayaran gaji di lakukan secara 
non tunai alias transfer, maka pasal 21 ayat 1 bisa dijadikanm acuan, tapi kalo 
mbayar gajinya masih pake lidah alias manual, maka transaksi wajib menggunakan 
rupiah.
 
najib
 
From: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com [mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Anthonius Asean
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 2:44 PM
To: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com
Subject: ~ aga ~ KEWAJIBAN PENGGUNAAN RUPIAH DALAM SEMUA TRANSAKSI DI INDONESIA
 
Najib,
 
Gw mau minta pendapat loe nih,
Berdasarkan bahan sosialisasi terlampir, apakah dengan demikian per 01 Juli 
2015 karyawan yg menerima gaji dalam USD hrs dirubah ke Rupiah ?
 
Karena ada juga 
 
BI Regulation article 21: 
“(1) Perjanjian tertulis mengenai pembayaran atau penyelesaian kewajiban dalam 
valuta asing selain perjanjian tertulis sebagaimana dimaksud dalam Pasal 10 
ayat (3) yang dibuat sebelum tanggal 1 Juli 2015, tetap berlaku sampai dengan 
berakhirnya perjanjian tertulis tersebut.”
 
Dimana kalo gw nangkep, kalo kontrak kerja karyawan itu sebelum 1 Juli 2015 
maka ttp menggunakan currency yg lama dan berlaku sampai masa kontrak di 
perjanjian kerja itu selesai..baru menggunakan rupiah.
 
Gimana menurut loe Jib ?
 

Thanks  warm regards,


Asean
 
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RE: ~ aga ~ KEWAJIBAN PENGGUNAAN RUPIAH DALAM SEMUA TRANSAKSI DI INDONESIA

[Najib]

Kenal, nape mang  ??
 
From: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com [mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Ahmad Syarifudin
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 7:47 AM
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O iy om najib org sharp y...Om najib knal sma bng chairul gak? :-)
On May 20, 2015 7:39 AM, Najib na...@seid.sharp-world.com wrote:
Yup, Cuma gak keluar dari Sharp langsung tapi ada kerjasama dengan pihak2 
distributor yang terpercaya.
 
From: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com [mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Anthonius Asean
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 4:30 PM
To: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ~ aga ~ KEWAJIBAN PENGGUNAAN RUPIAH DALAM SEMUA TRANSAKSI DI 
INDONESIA
 
Ok…
Trims Jib…  J
 
Btw.. gw denger2 Sharp mau ngeluarin Handphone ?
 



 
 
From: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com [mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Najib
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 4:03 PM
To: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ~ aga ~ KEWAJIBAN PENGGUNAAN RUPIAH DALAM SEMUA TRANSAKSI DI 
INDONESIA
 
Yup,
 
karena dipasal 23 tercantum masa berlaku mulai 1 juli 2015, jadi jika ada 
perjanjian sebelumnya maka masih tetap digunakan, sepanjang tidak ada 
kesepakatan anatar kedua belah pihak untuk merubahnya.
 
From: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com [mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Anthonius Asean
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 3:41 PM
To: 'aga-madjid@googlegroups.com'
Subject: Re: ~ aga ~ KEWAJIBAN PENGGUNAAN RUPIAH DALAM SEMUA TRANSAKSI DI 
INDONESIA
 
Oic...
Jadi gini Jib,
Misal ada expat yg kontraknya dari 1 Juni 2015 s/d 30 Mei 2016
Maka dia ttp menggunakan USD smpai dgn Mei 2016?
Dan per 1 Juni 2016 dia sdh hrs pake rupiah?
 
From: Najib [mailto:na...@seid.sharp-world.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 03:30 PM
To: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com aga-madjid@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: ~ aga ~ KEWAJIBAN PENGGUNAAN RUPIAH DALAM SEMUA TRANSAKSI DI 
INDONESIA 
 
Analisannya begini :
 
Penjelasannya untuk pasal 21 Hanya berlaku untuk transaksi “non tunai” (liat 
pasal 3 ayat 3). Nah apa2 saja yang dimaksud trnasaksi non tunai ada di 
penjelasan pasal 3 ayat 3, jadi kalo kategori pembayaran gaji di lakukan secara 
non tunai alias transfer, maka pasal 21 ayat 1 bisa dijadikanm acuan, tapi kalo 
mbayar gajinya masih pake lidah alias manual, maka transaksi wajib menggunakan 
rupiah.
 
najib
 
From: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com [mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Anthonius Asean
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 2:44 PM
To: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com
Subject: ~ aga ~ KEWAJIBAN PENGGUNAAN RUPIAH DALAM SEMUA TRANSAKSI DI INDONESIA
 
Najib,
 
Gw mau minta pendapat loe nih,
Berdasarkan bahan sosialisasi terlampir, apakah dengan demikian per 01 Juli 
2015 karyawan yg menerima gaji dalam USD hrs dirubah ke Rupiah ?
 
Karena ada juga 
 
BI Regulation article 21: 
“(1) Perjanjian tertulis mengenai pembayaran atau penyelesaian kewajiban dalam 
valuta asing selain perjanjian tertulis sebagaimana dimaksud dalam Pasal 10 
ayat (3) yang dibuat sebelum tanggal 1 Juli 2015, tetap berlaku sampai dengan 
berakhirnya perjanjian tertulis tersebut.”
 
Dimana kalo gw nangkep, kalo kontrak kerja karyawan itu sebelum 1 Juli 2015 
maka ttp menggunakan currency yg lama dan berlaku sampai masa kontrak di 
perjanjian kerja itu selesai..baru menggunakan rupiah.
 
Gimana menurut loe Jib ?
 

Thanks  warm regards,


Asean
 
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Re: ~ aga ~ Numpang buka lapak bro/sis

[Najib]

nanti malem dibuka lagi noh tiket kereta api,coba lagi deh..

 dikirim dari henpon saya


 On 8 Mei 2015, at 14.29, Najib na...@seid.sharp-world.com wrote:
 
 Japri dehwkwkwkwkwkwk
 
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 Behalf Of Anthonius Asean
 Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 2:15 PM
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 Udah jual aja tiket yg mau loe calo-in ...
 Gak usah pake hello..hello an
 Sok jual mahal loe...
 
 
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 Hari gini masih nanya tiket lebaran.helll
 
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 agaers...
 klo ada yang bisa order-in tiket kereta tambahan lebaran dong. butuh banget 
 nih..
 
 
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 Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 2:01 PM
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 japri
 
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 Barang kali bro/sis nyari rumah daerah ciomas bgr, lokasi. : perumahan bukit 
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RE: ~ aga ~ Numpang buka lapak bro/sis

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Japri dehwkwkwkwkwkwk

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Udah jual aja tiket yg mau loe calo-in ...
Gak usah pake hello..hello an
Sok jual mahal loe...


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Hari gini masih nanya tiket lebaran.helll

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agaers...
klo ada yang bisa order-in tiket kereta tambahan lebaran dong. butuh banget 
nih..


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japri

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Barang kali bro/sis nyari rumah daerah ciomas bgr, lokasi. : perumahan bukit 
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RE: ~ aga ~ Numpang buka lapak bro/sis

[Najib]

Makelar 2,5%


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Ada pic nya ngak?

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Daerah ciomas om najib, luas 240m, 2kav rmh, buka 1,5M nego alus
Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss...!

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Subject: RE: ~ aga ~ Numpang buka lapak bro/sis

japri

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RE: ~ aga ~ Numpang buka lapak bro/sis

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japri

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Subject: ~ aga ~ Numpang buka lapak bro/sis

Barang kali bro/sis nyari rumah daerah ciomas bgr, lokasi. : perumahan bukit 
asri ciomas, posisi rumah di huk ada gazebonya , bisa japri ya bro/sis
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RE: ~ aga ~ Numpang buka lapak bro/sis

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Hari gini masih nanya tiket lebaran.helll

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agaers...
klo ada yang bisa order-in tiket kereta tambahan lebaran dong. butuh banget 
nih..


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Subject: RE: ~ aga ~ Numpang buka lapak bro/sis


japri

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Barang kali bro/sis nyari rumah daerah ciomas bgr, lokasi. : perumahan bukit 
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RE: RE: ~ aga ~ Tahukah Anda???!!!

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Kamfreettt dah gue diem aje…mak di kipe lo pade…
 
From: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com [mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Rully Fabian
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2015 12:23 PM
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Subject: RE: RE: ~ aga ~ Tahukah Anda???!!!
 
Yaa psti gara2 najibb tuhh muncul...jd sepi lg daah nihh milis nyaa...wawkawawk
On 4 May 2015 12:19, Edy Haryanto edyharya...@gmail.com wrote:
Tuh kan...
Bubar lagi sepi lagi dah.
 
 
 
Thanks and Regards,
Edy Haryanto
 
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Mulai menarik nih
 
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Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 3:01 PM
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Subject: Re: RE: ~ aga ~ Tahukah Anda???!!!
 
Ahhh itaaa blaga g ngerti ahh...
Bukannya ntu ciri khas nya jeung itaa tuhh,wawkawawkk..
On 30 Apr 2015 14:39, It@ ita.kri...@gmail.com wrote:
ngomong opo kui toh le 
Pada tanggal 30 Apr 2015 14:10, battlefreakz battlefre...@gmail.com menulis:
iikkhh ikkhh... kimooochiii... yaaamtte....
 
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Hajaarr doll.waekawawkk..
On 30 Apr 2015 08:56, battlefreakz battlefre...@gmail.com wrote:
Ita... uks uks uks...
#akutuhgabisadiginiin
 
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Hi pak kabar… Ita
 
 
 
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Subject: Bls: RE: ~ aga ~ Tahukah Anda???!!!
 
wkwkw



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Tis
 
 
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Subject: Bls: ~ aga ~ Tahukah Anda???!!!
 

Tes
 
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RE: RE: ~ aga ~ Tahukah Anda???!!!

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Gak takut…tinggal bilng kapan dimana, najib will come
 
From: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com [mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Edy Haryanto
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Subject: RE: RE: ~ aga ~ Tahukah Anda???!!!
 
Di millist aja dah kayak jelangkung...
Di kopdar nongol Cuma 1 kali, itu pun pas gak ada Asean.
 
Kalau berani, kopdar pas ada Asean, biar kita liat jadi kebab onta apa kagak J
 
 
Thanks and Regards,
Edy Haryanto
 
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Behalf Of Rully Fabian
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Subject: RE: RE: ~ aga ~ Tahukah Anda???!!!
 
Wawkkak parah loe kohh
Skrg psti dah g bkal nongol lg nihh ai ontaaxixixixixizii
On 4 May 2015 15:16, Edy Haryanto edyharya...@gmail.com wrote:
Nah nongol lagi die...
Makin sepi dah
 
 
 
Thanks and Regards,
Edy Haryanto
 
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Sent: Monday, May 04, 2015 3:09 PM
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Subject: RE: RE: ~ aga ~ Tahukah Anda???!!!
 
Kamfreettt dah gue diem aje…mak di kipe lo pade…
 
From: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com [mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Rully Fabian
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2015 12:23 PM
To: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: ~ aga ~ Tahukah Anda???!!!
 
Yaa psti gara2 najibb tuhh muncul...jd sepi lg daah nihh milis nyaa...wawkawawk
On 4 May 2015 12:19, Edy Haryanto edyharya...@gmail.com wrote:
Tuh kan...
Bubar lagi sepi lagi dah.
 
 
 
Thanks and Regards,
Edy Haryanto
 
From: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com [mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Najib
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Subject: RE: RE: ~ aga ~ Tahukah Anda???!!!
 
Mulai menarik nih
 
From: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com [mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Rully Fabian
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 3:01 PM
To: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: RE: ~ aga ~ Tahukah Anda???!!!
 
Ahhh itaaa blaga g ngerti ahh...
Bukannya ntu ciri khas nya jeung itaa tuhh,wawkawawkk..
On 30 Apr 2015 14:39, It@ ita.kri...@gmail.com wrote:
ngomong opo kui toh le 
Pada tanggal 30 Apr 2015 14:10, battlefreakz battlefre...@gmail.com menulis:
iikkhh ikkhh... kimooochiii... yaaamtte....
 
On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Rully Fabian rully.fab...@gmail.com wrote:
Hajaarr doll.waekawawkk..
On 30 Apr 2015 08:56, battlefreakz battlefre...@gmail.com wrote:
Ita... uks uks uks...
#akutuhgabisadiginiin
 
On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 7:23 PM, narko suna...@muliagroup.co.id wrote:
Hi pak kabar… Ita
 
 
 
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Behalf Of ita.krista
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 7:18 PM
To: aga groups
Subject: Bls: RE: ~ aga ~ Tahukah Anda???!!!
 
wkwkw



Terkirim dari: Lenovo A859

narko suna...@muliagroup.co.id menulis:
Tis
 
 
From: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com [mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 6:34 PM
To: aga-madjid
Subject: Bls: ~ aga ~ Tahukah Anda???!!!
 

Tes
 
  _  

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RE: RE: ~ aga ~ Tahukah Anda???!!!

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Mulai menarik nih
 
From: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com [mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Rully Fabian
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 3:01 PM
To: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: RE: ~ aga ~ Tahukah Anda???!!!
 
Ahhh itaaa blaga g ngerti ahh...
Bukannya ntu ciri khas nya jeung itaa tuhh,wawkawawkk..
On 30 Apr 2015 14:39, It@ ita.kri...@gmail.com wrote:
ngomong opo kui toh le 
Pada tanggal 30 Apr 2015 14:10, battlefreakz battlefre...@gmail.com menulis:
iikkhh ikkhh... kimooochiii... yaaamtte....
 
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Hajaarr doll.waekawawkk..
On 30 Apr 2015 08:56, battlefreakz battlefre...@gmail.com wrote:
Ita... uks uks uks...
#akutuhgabisadiginiin
 
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Hi pak kabar… Ita
 
 
 
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Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 7:18 PM
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Subject: Bls: RE: ~ aga ~ Tahukah Anda???!!!
 
wkwkw



Terkirim dari: Lenovo A859

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Tis
 
 
From: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com [mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 6:34 PM
To: aga-madjid
Subject: Bls: ~ aga ~ Tahukah Anda???!!!
 

Tes
 
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RE: ~ aga ~ tes

[Najib]

Lah inih kenapa nama gue dibawa2…?? Mang sial dangkalan lo pade…gue mulu nyang 
ketumpuan….hapes dah….
 
From: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com [mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com] On 
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Sent: Friday, April 17, 2015 1:43 PM
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Dodols jg masih lajang n brondong pulak kok.xixixixixixx
Agaers angkatan loe ceweknya pada kmana yaaah..??? 
termasuk mmber cewek senior neeeh.hehehehehe




 
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 1:13 PM, It@ ita.kri...@gmail.com wrote:
al lah dodol mulu bosen ahhh wkwkwk yg lajang aj deh bahahaha
Pada tanggal 17 Apr 2015 13:10, Rully Fabian rully.fab...@gmail.com menulis:
Jiaaahaneng ita kmana ajah nihhh..,...xixixiiixxixi
dicariin dodols tuhhhwakwkawkaka
 
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 1:09 PM, It@ ita.kri...@gmail.com wrote:
bah ga ada cwe y lanang smua cabutlahhh 
Pada tanggal 17 Apr 2015 12:49, battlefreakz battlefre...@gmail.com menulis:
Wkakaa.. Biasa brader saya muter2 dulu hihi..
Ini masih nunggu welcome drink dari penunggu batam nih xixi..

On Friday, April 17, 2015, Rully Fabian rully.fab...@gmail.com wrote:
Beeeuuuhhh.ga ajak2 nihhh si dodols..
 
 
 
 
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 9:48 AM, battlefreakz battlefre...@gmail.com wrote:
Tolong angel batam area dijapri yah asap, lokasi saya depan nagoya hill..
Mahen mana?
Pak pres mana pak pres..?
Japriin no wassap lu bdua dong..
Semalem ke pool bar and karaoke jam 2 ud tutup cepet bener dah.. Ditawarin 
trenggiling 200rebuan saiah huft..


On Thursday, April 16, 2015, Edy Haryanto edyharya...@gmail.com wrote:
Hmmm
Ini angel gender nya apa nih? M atau F nih??
 
 
Thanks and Regards,
Edy Haryanto
 
From: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com [mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com] On 
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Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 4:05 PM
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Wah… bro Rocker lsg semangat nih… J
 



 
 
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Waahh angel sapa nihhh?? 
Baru tau nihh ada angel disini...biasanya disini bnyak nya evil 
siihhhxixoxixixix
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RE: ~ aga ~ tes

[Najib]

Daripada ributin RDK asean mending lo apdet gue udah dapet berape duit tuh di 
warung sebelah
 
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Wawkawaakawakparaaahhh si onta...wawkaaak...
Nunggu 5x gnti kli bro...tp ntu jg baru di nominasiin ke RDK nya...blom tntu di 
approve jgxixixiixix
On 16 Apr 2015 16:15, Anthonius Asean anthoniusas...@pinangcoal.com wrote:
Huahahahh….
RDK ya ?
Emang beluman di approve ya dia….
Wualaah…. Presiden RI dah ganti 3x… dia belum jadi member RDK juga…
 
#prayfornajib
 
 
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Paling jg mmber lama pke id palsu nihh..,hehehee..
Bisa jadi bro...ini si onta...akal2annya biar bisa masuk RDKwaekawawkkak..
On 16 Apr 2015 16:11, Anthonius Asean anthoniusas...@pinangcoal.com wrote:
Member baru yah bro?
Baru liat gw namanya…
Apa jangan2  alter ego-nya Najib nih ?
#curiga
 



 
 
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Wawjawaskawaak.gw lg gelar terpal nihh nunggu show nya angel 
nihhh...xixixixxiii...
On 16 Apr 2015 16:05, Anthonius Asean anthoniusas...@pinangcoal.com wrote:
Wah… bro Rocker lsg semangat nih… J
 



 
 
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Waahh angel sapa nihhh?? 
Baru tau nihh ada angel disini...biasanya disini bnyak nya evil 
siihhhxixoxixixix
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RE: ~ aga ~ tes

[Najib]

Gak disono gak di mare….sama aje….gak pade demen banget temennye jadi orang 
kaya….
 
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Iyaaa bro ase
LSK jd ga seru sejak onta mnang mulu...dah g berasa elegan lg tuhh 
LSK...xixixixixio..
Udah laah bro ase...g usah apdet lah klo onta mnang trs...diemin 
ajahh...waekawaakkaw
On 16 Apr 2015 16:36, Anthonius Asean anthoniusas...@pinangcoal.com wrote:
Ah males Jib…
Loe menang mulu sih…
Mending nungguin Angel … J
 



 
 
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Behalf Of Najib
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 4:28 PM
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Daripada ributin RDK asean mending lo apdet gue udah dapet berape duit tuh di 
warung sebelah
 
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Behalf Of Rully Fabian
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 4:23 PM
To: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ~ aga ~ tes
 
Wawkawaakawakparaaahhh si onta...wawkaaak...
Nunggu 5x gnti kli bro...tp ntu jg baru di nominasiin ke RDK nya...blom tntu di 
approve jgxixixiixix
On 16 Apr 2015 16:15, Anthonius Asean anthoniusas...@pinangcoal.com wrote:
Huahahahh….
RDK ya ?
Emang beluman di approve ya dia….
Wualaah…. Presiden RI dah ganti 3x… dia belum jadi member RDK juga…
 
#prayfornajib
 
 
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Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 4:13 PM
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Subject: RE: ~ aga ~ tes
 
Paling jg mmber lama pke id palsu nihh..,hehehee..
Bisa jadi bro...ini si onta...akal2annya biar bisa masuk RDKwaekawawkkak..
On 16 Apr 2015 16:11, Anthonius Asean anthoniusas...@pinangcoal.com wrote:
Member baru yah bro?
Baru liat gw namanya…
Apa jangan2  alter ego-nya Najib nih ?
#curiga
 



 
 
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Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 4:08 PM
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Subject: RE: ~ aga ~ tes
 
Wawjawaskawaak.gw lg gelar terpal nihh nunggu show nya angel 
nihhh...xixixixxiii...
On 16 Apr 2015 16:05, Anthonius Asean anthoniusas...@pinangcoal.com wrote:
Wah… bro Rocker lsg semangat nih… J
 



 
 
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Waahh angel sapa nihhh?? 
Baru tau nihh ada angel disini...biasanya disini bnyak nya evil 
siihhhxixoxixixix
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RE: ~ aga ~ sesajen untuk senior2 milis

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Mulai bahaya………#kecilinlayar 
 
 
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RE: ~ aga ~ tes

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Tae lah…..masih disuujonin aje gue…mang kurang asem lo pade…
 
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Paling jg mmber lama pke id palsu nihh..,hehehee..
Bisa jadi bro...ini si onta...akal2annya biar bisa masuk RDKwaekawawkkak..
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Member baru yah bro?
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#curiga
 



 
 
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Wawjawaskawaak.gw lg gelar terpal nihh nunggu show nya angel 
nihhh...xixixixxiii...
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Wah… bro Rocker lsg semangat nih… J
 



 
 
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Waahh angel sapa nihhh?? 
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siihhhxixoxixixix
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RE: ~ aga ~ tes

[Najib]

Batu cincin dertuah judi gue udah bererot….biar gak kalah terus….malu ame 
Tuhan….
 
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Subject: RE: ~ aga ~ tes
 
Abis…
Loe kaya ndiri ndiri aje Jib…
Kaga bagi2 yg laen…
 



 
 
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Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 4:42 PM
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Subject: RE: ~ aga ~ tes
 
Gak disono gak di mare….sama aje….gak pade demen banget temennye jadi orang 
kaya….
 
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Subject: RE: ~ aga ~ tes
 
Iyaaa bro ase
LSK jd ga seru sejak onta mnang mulu...dah g berasa elegan lg tuhh 
LSK...xixixixixio..
Udah laah bro ase...g usah apdet lah klo onta mnang trs...diemin 
ajahh...waekawaakkaw
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Ah males Jib…
Loe menang mulu sih…
Mending nungguin Angel … J
 



 
 
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Daripada ributin RDK asean mending lo apdet gue udah dapet berape duit tuh di 
warung sebelah
 
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Wawkawaakawakparaaahhh si onta...wawkaaak...
Nunggu 5x gnti kli bro...tp ntu jg baru di nominasiin ke RDK nya...blom tntu di 
approve jgxixixiixix
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Huahahahh….
RDK ya ?
Emang beluman di approve ya dia….
Wualaah…. Presiden RI dah ganti 3x… dia belum jadi member RDK juga…
 
#prayfornajib
 
 
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Paling jg mmber lama pke id palsu nihh..,hehehee..
Bisa jadi bro...ini si onta...akal2annya biar bisa masuk RDKwaekawawkkak..
On 16 Apr 2015 16:11, Anthonius Asean anthoniusas...@pinangcoal.com wrote:
Member baru yah bro?
Baru liat gw namanya…
Apa jangan2  alter ego-nya Najib nih ?
#curiga
 



 
 
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Subject: RE: ~ aga ~ tes
 
Wawjawaskawaak.gw lg gelar terpal nihh nunggu show nya angel 
nihhh...xixixixxiii...
On 16 Apr 2015 16:05, Anthonius Asean anthoniusas...@pinangcoal.com wrote:
Wah… bro Rocker lsg semangat nih… J
 



 
 
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Waahh angel sapa nihhh?? 
Baru tau nihh ada angel disini...biasanya disini bnyak nya evil 
siihhhxixoxixixix
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RE: ~ aga ~ sepi amat

[Najib]

Maen billiard dulu deh sambil nunggu rekapan
 
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nunggu rekapan ixixi...
 
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Gelar tiker dulu dehhh disini...
Sambil nunggu rekapan n yg uncensored...heheheehe...
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pada kemane neh…
 
kirim pic dong… si duo serigal unsensor jg boleh tuh yg lg heboh.… atau yg lain…
 
 
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RE: ~ aga ~ Duka Cita

[Najib]

Innalillahi wa inna ilaihi roji’un…semoga amal ibadahnya diterima disisi yang 
maha kuasa..
 
 
 
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Subject: Bls: ~ aga ~ Duka Cita
 

Innalillahi..
Moga amal ibadahnya diterima disisi allah dan keluarga yg di tinggalkan di 
berikan  ketabahan.amin
Dikirim https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android  dari Yahoo Mail 
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Judul:~ aga ~ Duka Cita
Telah meninggal dunia teman kita Titik D.J (Titik Klop), member aga 
Mungkin untuk member aga yang lama kenal,
Pada hari Senin 6 April 2015 jam 16.15 karena infeksi / radang usus di Pati 
Jawa tengah .
Semoga amal ibadah semasa hidup nya di terima dan di ampuni segala dosa 
dosanya, amien.
 
 
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RE: ~ aga ~ Ada yang mengerti hukum?

[Najib]

Walaupun sisi kontrak yang diperhatikan ( lex specialis derogat legi Generalis) 
harus tidak bertentangan dengan peraturan diatasnya. Jika bertentangan an tetap 
berlaku sebaliknya ya toh ?
 
From: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com [mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Eka Prasetia
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 2:44 PM
To: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ~ aga ~ Ada yang mengerti hukum?
 
Dear Bro Najib,
Nah itu, dari sisi kemanusiaan gw masih memperjuangkan untuk tetap membayarkan 
gaji meski ada pemotongan, meski di kontrak sudah tercantum bahwa jika 
melanggar perjanjian pekerjaan akan ada sanksi berupa tidak dibayarkan gaji dan 
bahkan ada denda di kontrak yang sudah lama di buat dari sebelumnya. 
untuk tidak ada nya beberapa kontrak memang itu sisi kesalahan si area manager 
tidak mengawasi secara baik. 
gw cuma takut tidak memberikan rekomendasi yang tepat dan teori hukum yang 
tepat juga ke manajement. sudah pernah baca PP no 8 itu. hanya manajement 
selalu melihat dari isi kontrak yang telah di buat. 
thanks for advice bro najib dan narko. 
 
2015-04-06 14:33 GMT+07:00 Najib na...@seid.sharp-world.com:
Begini analisannya kawan, kalo gue gak salah tangkep ye makna yang lo 
pertanyakan.
 
Pekerja memiliki hak untuk menerima upah dari Pengusaha atas suatu 
pekerjaannya, sebagaimana diatur dalam Pasal 1 angka 30 UU No. 13 Tahun 2003 
tentang Ketenagakerjaan (selanjutnya akan disebut UU Naker), yang menyatakan:
 
”Upah adalah hak pekerja/buruh yang diterima dan dinyatakan dalam bentuk uang 
sebagai imbalan dari pengusaha atau pemberi kerja kepada pekerja/buruh yang 
ditetapkan dan dibayarkan menurut suatu perjanjian kerja, kesepakatan, atau 
peraturan perundang undangan, termasuk tunjangan bagi pekerja/buruh dan 
keluarganya atas suatu pekerjaan dan/atau jasa yang telah atau akan dilakukan…”
 
Secara hukum, apabila pekerja tidak bekerja, maka upah tidak dibayar (lihat 
Pasal 93 ayat [1] UU Naker). Sedangkan, pemotongan upah mengenai denda atas 
pelanggaran yang dilakukan pekerja dapat dilakukan apabila hal tersebut diatur 
secara tegas dalam suatu perjanjian tertulis atau perjanjian perusahaan (lihat 
Pasal 20 ayat [1] PP No. 8 Tahun 1981 tentang Perlindungan Upah, yang 
selanjutnya akan disebut PP No. 8 Tahun 1981).
 
Jadi lo coba simak PP nomor 8, tentang perlindungan Upah. 
 
Perusahaan dapat meminta pekerja mengganti rugi dengan melakukan pemotongan 
upah, apabila terdapat kerusakan barang atau kerugian lain yang dimiliki atau 
asset perusahaan maupun pihak ketiga yang dikarenakan kesengajaan atau 
kelalaian pekerja, sebagaimana diatur dalam Pasal 23 ayat (1) PP No. 8 Tahun 
1981 yang menyatakan:
 
”(1) Ganti rugi dapat dimintakan oleh pengusaha dari buruh, bila terjadi 
kerusakan barang atau kerugian lainnya baik milik pengusaha maupun milik pihak 
ketiga oleh buruh karena kesengajaan atau kelalaian…”
 
Selanjutnya, besarnya pemotongan upah atas kerugian yang diderita oleh 
perusahaan yang disebabkan karena kesalahan atau pelanggaran yang dilakukan 
oleh pekerja tidak boleh melebihi 50% dari besarnya upah pekerja, (lihat Pasal 
23 ayat [2] Jo. Pasal 24 ayat [1] Jo. ayat [2] PP No. 8 Tahun 1981).
 
Jadi kalopun merugikan perusahaan, secara ghukum sebenernya boleh mengambil hak 
karyawan (karena kesalahan ) maximal 50% aja, itu pun dengan dasar2 yang akurat 
dan sudah disepakati.
 
Sekarang Klausul kontrak gak pake materai aja udah bermasalah, bisa aja 
karyawan menganggap itu kontrak dibawah tekanan dll. Jadi pasti ada akibat 
hukumnya kalo mau dilanjut prosesnya.
 
Kalo salah mohon direvisi..namanya juga manusia pasti ada salahnya..sebagai 
sisi manusiawi..orang bekerja tapi gak diberi upah namannya bukan manusia… 
 
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Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 1:59 PM
To: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com
Subject: ~ aga ~ Ada yang mengerti hukum?
 
Dear All agaers,
boleh diskusi sebentar buat yang mengerti hukum ketenagakerjaan. 
ada kasus di kantor gw, ada pekerja yang melanggar isi kontrak (melakukan 
kesalahan) dan di ketahui oleh klien, lalu sesuai isi kontrak ada sanksi dan 
ada pasal tidak membayarkan gaji setelah ada kronologis dari pihak klien yang 
menguatkan bahwa kami persh tidak bisa membyarkan gaji para pegawai tersebut. 
apakah akan ada dampak rumit apabila ada karyawan yang tidak terima apabila 
kami tidak membayarkan gaji karena kesalahan tersebut? 
bagaimana dengan kontrak yang hanya diketahui dan di tanda tangan tanpa 
materai? karena kelalaian area manager bersangkutan. apakah akan melemahkan 
sanksi yang ada dalam kontrak? 
mohon advice nya ya temans. 


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RE: ~ aga ~ Ada yang mengerti hukum?

[Najib]

Ada baiknya lo bicara :
1.   Dalam pembuatan kontrak harus tidak bertentangan dengan hukum yang 
diatasnya ( minta review lagi klausul kontraknya)
2.   Setiap Perkara pasti memiliki konsekuensi hukum sendiri, Teknik 
bernegosiasi dengan Si pelanggar untuk dipotong gajinya ( bukan tidak 
dibayarkan gajinya) adalah tehnik yang terbaik, agar si Pelanggar gak perlu 
meributkannya kejalur hukum, dan pelanggarpun mengerti n tidak mengulanginya
 
Mudah2an bisa membantu.
 
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Behalf Of Eka Prasetia
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 3:53 PM
To: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ~ aga ~ Ada yang mengerti hukum?
 
jadi baik nnya gw gimana bro najib menyampaikan ke manajement selain gw 
tunjukin peraturan. 
 
2015-04-06 15:22 GMT+07:00 Najib na...@seid.sharp-world.com:
Walaupun sisi kontrak yang diperhatikan ( lex specialis derogat legi Generalis) 
harus tidak bertentangan dengan peraturan diatasnya. Jika bertentangan an tetap 
berlaku sebaliknya ya toh ?
 
From: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com [mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Eka Prasetia
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 2:44 PM
To: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ~ aga ~ Ada yang mengerti hukum?
 
Dear Bro Najib,
Nah itu, dari sisi kemanusiaan gw masih memperjuangkan untuk tetap membayarkan 
gaji meski ada pemotongan, meski di kontrak sudah tercantum bahwa jika 
melanggar perjanjian pekerjaan akan ada sanksi berupa tidak dibayarkan gaji dan 
bahkan ada denda di kontrak yang sudah lama di buat dari sebelumnya. 
untuk tidak ada nya beberapa kontrak memang itu sisi kesalahan si area manager 
tidak mengawasi secara baik. 
gw cuma takut tidak memberikan rekomendasi yang tepat dan teori hukum yang 
tepat juga ke manajement. sudah pernah baca PP no 8 itu. hanya manajement 
selalu melihat dari isi kontrak yang telah di buat. 
thanks for advice bro najib dan narko. 
 
2015-04-06 14:33 GMT+07:00 Najib na...@seid.sharp-world.com:
Begini analisannya kawan, kalo gue gak salah tangkep ye makna yang lo 
pertanyakan.
 
Pekerja memiliki hak untuk menerima upah dari Pengusaha atas suatu 
pekerjaannya, sebagaimana diatur dalam Pasal 1 angka 30 UU No. 13 Tahun 2003 
tentang Ketenagakerjaan (selanjutnya akan disebut UU Naker), yang menyatakan:
 
”Upah adalah hak pekerja/buruh yang diterima dan dinyatakan dalam bentuk uang 
sebagai imbalan dari pengusaha atau pemberi kerja kepada pekerja/buruh yang 
ditetapkan dan dibayarkan menurut suatu perjanjian kerja, kesepakatan, atau 
peraturan perundang undangan, termasuk tunjangan bagi pekerja/buruh dan 
keluarganya atas suatu pekerjaan dan/atau jasa yang telah atau akan dilakukan…”
 
Secara hukum, apabila pekerja tidak bekerja, maka upah tidak dibayar (lihat 
Pasal 93 ayat [1] UU Naker). Sedangkan, pemotongan upah mengenai denda atas 
pelanggaran yang dilakukan pekerja dapat dilakukan apabila hal tersebut diatur 
secara tegas dalam suatu perjanjian tertulis atau perjanjian perusahaan (lihat 
Pasal 20 ayat [1] PP No. 8 Tahun 1981 tentang Perlindungan Upah, yang 
selanjutnya akan disebut PP No. 8 Tahun 1981).
 
Jadi lo coba simak PP nomor 8, tentang perlindungan Upah. 
 
Perusahaan dapat meminta pekerja mengganti rugi dengan melakukan pemotongan 
upah, apabila terdapat kerusakan barang atau kerugian lain yang dimiliki atau 
asset perusahaan maupun pihak ketiga yang dikarenakan kesengajaan atau 
kelalaian pekerja, sebagaimana diatur dalam Pasal 23 ayat (1) PP No. 8 Tahun 
1981 yang menyatakan:
 
”(1) Ganti rugi dapat dimintakan oleh pengusaha dari buruh, bila terjadi 
kerusakan barang atau kerugian lainnya baik milik pengusaha maupun milik pihak 
ketiga oleh buruh karena kesengajaan atau kelalaian…”
 
Selanjutnya, besarnya pemotongan upah atas kerugian yang diderita oleh 
perusahaan yang disebabkan karena kesalahan atau pelanggaran yang dilakukan 
oleh pekerja tidak boleh melebihi 50% dari besarnya upah pekerja, (lihat Pasal 
23 ayat [2] Jo. Pasal 24 ayat [1] Jo. ayat [2] PP No. 8 Tahun 1981).
 
Jadi kalopun merugikan perusahaan, secara ghukum sebenernya boleh mengambil hak 
karyawan (karena kesalahan ) maximal 50% aja, itu pun dengan dasar2 yang akurat 
dan sudah disepakati.
 
Sekarang Klausul kontrak gak pake materai aja udah bermasalah, bisa aja 
karyawan menganggap itu kontrak dibawah tekanan dll. Jadi pasti ada akibat 
hukumnya kalo mau dilanjut prosesnya.
 
Kalo salah mohon direvisi..namanya juga manusia pasti ada salahnya..sebagai 
sisi manusiawi..orang bekerja tapi gak diberi upah namannya bukan manusia… 
 
From: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com [mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Eka Prasetia
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Subject: ~ aga ~ Ada yang mengerti hukum?
 
Dear All agaers,
boleh diskusi sebentar buat yang mengerti hukum ketenagakerjaan. 
ada kasus di kantor gw, ada pekerja yang melanggar isi kontrak (melakukan 
kesalahan) dan di ketahui oleh klien, lalu sesuai isi kontrak ada

RE: ~ aga ~ MASIH INGAT ??/

[Najib]

Kalo inget salah kamar begini, berasa dejavu sama salah RDK…
 
From: aga-madjid@googlegroups.com [mailto:aga-madjid@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Ear.One
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 4:20 PM
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Ngak ikutan kalo xsome… duel sama sampingan doang seinget gw J
 
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Behalf Of Rully Fabian
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Jiahhhkok gw seeh?? 
Bukannya onta juga ikutan xsome koh?? 
On 18 Mar 2015 16:12, Ear.One ear.one...@gmail.com wrote:
Nah yg menang xsome muncul juga hihihi…… indahnya berbagi yah J
 
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Wawkawawkkeren dehh onta menang bnyak...
On 18 Mar 2015 14:53, Ear.One ear.one...@gmail.com wrote:
Onta menang di LSK langsung semangat neh…. Sampe file2 lama dibuka2 lagi 
hihihi….
 
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Hheeehhh salah kamar pade….pindah2…
 
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Nah yg menang xsome muncul juga hihihi…… indahnya berbagi yah J
 
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Wawkawawkkeren dehh onta menang bnyak...
On 18 Mar 2015 14:53, Ear.One ear.one...@gmail.com wrote:
Onta menang di LSK langsung semangat neh…. Sampe file2 lama dibuka2 lagi 
hihihi….
 
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Selesai juga…..
 

eFiling - Pelaporan SPT Tahunan 1770S atau 1770SS
� Direktorat Jenderal Pajak 2015

Berikut adalah Bukti Penerimaan Elektronik Anda.
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NPWP : 577438542005000
Tahun Pajak : 2014
Jenis SPT : 1770S
Pembetulan ke : 0
Status SPT : Nihil
Tanggal Penyampaian : 16/03/2015 13:46:21.870
NTTE : 645423063761575161213

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