Re: [all-audio] Great sounds of AM Stereo

2019-08-16 Thread Dane Trethowan
I did that myself before I had a dedicated stereo AM receiver and the effect 
was certainly there.


> On 17 Aug 2019, at 7:00 am, Evan Reese  wrote:
> 
> I remember playing around with two radios to get AM stereo in the 1980s here 
> in the U.S. If I tuned each of them just right, I could get pretty decent 
> stereo between them.
> 
> Evan
> 
> -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
> Sent: Friday, August 16, 2019 2:11 PM
> To: all-audio@groups.io
> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Great sounds of AM Stereo
> 
> Some of your AM stations are now broadcasting using HD.
> I know someone who has a Sangean HDR16 HD radio and he has forwarded me 
> recordings of HD sound from AM which doesn't sound too bad.
> It sounds as though Am Stereo tuners were as different as standard tuners 
> were.
> I had one which I built from a kit which was extremely sensitive whilst my 
> Sony tuner was as deaf as a doorpost.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: all-audio@groups.io  On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson
> Sent: Saturday, 17 August 2019 3:47 AM
> To: all-audio@groups.io
> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Great sounds of AM Stereo
> 
> Dane,
> 
> My old Carver TX 11A or 11B or whatever it was could receive Stereo AM of 
> this quality.  They even had a 10KHZ notch filter to avoid hearing that tone 
> if it was generated by an adjacent station in the United States.  I suspect 
> they had models to filter out the 9 KHZ tone in much of the rest of the 
> world.  The biggest gripe I had with my Carver tuner was that it was not very 
> sensitive on AM.  It also had a very nice FM section in it as well with some 
> interesting noise cancelling options.
> 
> While we don't have stereo AM in the United States any longer, there are 
> still AM stations with very nice audio that use a fairly wide bandwidth. 
> However, the audio on AM now is very much limited by the bandwidth used by 
> most radios of today, and I understand that the need isn't as strong as it 
> once was with streaming and other options.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Steve Jacobson
> 
> -----Original Message-
> From: all-audio@groups.io  On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
> Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2019 7:23 PM
> To: all-audio@groups.io
> Subject: [all-audio] Great sounds of AM Stereo
> 
> For those who have never heard the sound of Stereo AM before? Enjoy.
> For those who lived through the period of Stereo AM and who owned a Stereo AM 
> tuner or radio? Sit back and remember.
> I found this sample of Stereo AM - from radio station 3MP in Melbourne - on 
> Youtube.
> I’d love to know what type of tuner this recording was made from as the band 
> width is quite wide.
> My Sony tuner was capable of this but only after it had been adjusted.
> Anyway hear for yourself.
> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DIPPOEIfU0bo%26t%3D3573s&data=02%7C01%7C%7C2676da24eea64cf7c52008d721dff5d0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637015118088352475&sdata=T9W7QtOsV3qA0ghtdkOpTgnZzEh1LcH4BKy3OONSAGI%3D&reserved=0
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Re: [all-audio] Great sounds of AM Stereo

2019-08-16 Thread Evan Reese
I remember playing around with two radios to get AM stereo in the 1980s here 
in the U.S. If I tuned each of them just right, I could get pretty decent 
stereo between them.


Evan

-Original Message- 
From: Dane Trethowan

Sent: Friday, August 16, 2019 2:11 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Great sounds of AM Stereo

Some of your AM stations are now broadcasting using HD.
I know someone who has a Sangean HDR16 HD radio and he has forwarded me 
recordings of HD sound from AM which doesn't sound too bad.
It sounds as though Am Stereo tuners were as different as standard tuners 
were.
I had one which I built from a kit which was extremely sensitive whilst my 
Sony tuner was as deaf as a doorpost.



-Original Message-
From: all-audio@groups.io  On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson
Sent: Saturday, 17 August 2019 3:47 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Great sounds of AM Stereo

Dane,

My old Carver TX 11A or 11B or whatever it was could receive Stereo AM of 
this quality.  They even had a 10KHZ notch filter to avoid hearing that tone 
if it was generated by an adjacent station in the United States.  I suspect 
they had models to filter out the 9 KHZ tone in much of the rest of the 
world.  The biggest gripe I had with my Carver tuner was that it was not 
very sensitive on AM.  It also had a very nice FM section in it as well with 
some interesting noise cancelling options.


While we don't have stereo AM in the United States any longer, there are 
still AM stations with very nice audio that use a fairly wide bandwidth. 
However, the audio on AM now is very much limited by the bandwidth used by 
most radios of today, and I understand that the need isn't as strong as it 
once was with streaming and other options.


Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

-Original Message-
From: all-audio@groups.io  On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2019 7:23 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: [all-audio] Great sounds of AM Stereo

For those who have never heard the sound of Stereo AM before? Enjoy.
For those who lived through the period of Stereo AM and who owned a Stereo 
AM tuner or radio? Sit back and remember.
I found this sample of Stereo AM - from radio station 3MP in Melbourne - on 
Youtube.
I’d love to know what type of tuner this recording was made from as the band 
width is quite wide.

My Sony tuner was capable of this but only after it had been adjusted.
Anyway hear for yourself.
https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DIPPOEIfU0bo%26t%3D3573s&data=02%7C01%7C%7C2676da24eea64cf7c52008d721dff5d0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637015118088352475&sdata=T9W7QtOsV3qA0ghtdkOpTgnZzEh1LcH4BKy3OONSAGI%3D&reserved=0













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Re: [all-audio] Great sounds of AM Stereo

2019-08-16 Thread Dane Trethowan
Always interesting to hear from you on this topic.
My friend with the HDR16 says that the radio is incredibly tolerant of 
interference and stays stubbornly locked to the HD signal though in the reverse 
you can't switch off HD and just stay on analogue without tuning off the 
station slightly, an oversight I think on Sangean's part.


-Original Message-
From: all-audio@groups.io  On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson
Sent: Saturday, 17 August 2019 4:54 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Great sounds of AM Stereo

Dane,

Yes, I am aware of AM HD here, of course, and I do own a Sangean AM/FM HD 
Tuner.  However, it feels as though AM HD is gradually failing, although it is 
hard to know what will happen.  The sound is very good, but it takes very 
little static to cause the HD signal to not be useable and one is switched back 
to analog.  In addition, the HD signal requires a significant limitation to the 
analog bandwidth so AM HD stations tend to have analog sound that is not as 
wide in bandwidth as other AM stations that do not have an HD signal.  I live 
in the Metropolitan Minneapolis-St. Paul area of Minnesota, and at one point we 
had three AM HD stations, however we now have none at all.  AM HD seems to have 
taken a better hold in some other large cities, though.  It is fun, on 
occasion, to listen to HD signals from Chicago during the evening, some 400 
miles, 670 kilometers, away.  Those are very strong AM signals, though.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

-Original Message-
From: all-audio@groups.io  On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2019 1:11 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Great sounds of AM Stereo

Some of your AM stations are now broadcasting using HD.
I know someone who has a Sangean HDR16 HD radio and he has forwarded me 
recordings of HD sound from AM which doesn't sound too bad.
It sounds as though Am Stereo tuners were as different as standard tuners were.
I had one which I built from a kit which was extremely sensitive whilst my Sony 
tuner was as deaf as a doorpost.


-Original Message-
From: all-audio@groups.io  On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson
Sent: Saturday, 17 August 2019 3:47 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Great sounds of AM Stereo

Dane,

My old Carver TX 11A or 11B or whatever it was could receive Stereo AM of this 
quality.  They even had a 10KHZ notch filter to avoid hearing that tone if it 
was generated by an adjacent station in the United States.  I suspect they had 
models to filter out the 9 KHZ tone in much of the rest of the world.  The 
biggest gripe I had with my Carver tuner was that it was not very sensitive on 
AM.  It also had a very nice FM section in it as well with some interesting 
noise cancelling options.

While we don't have stereo AM in the United States any longer, there are still 
AM stations with very nice audio that use a fairly wide bandwidth.  However, 
the audio on AM now is very much limited by the bandwidth used by most radios 
of today, and I understand that the need isn't as strong as it once was with 
streaming and other options.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

-Original Message-
From: all-audio@groups.io  On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2019 7:23 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: [all-audio] Great sounds of AM Stereo

For those who have never heard the sound of Stereo AM before? Enjoy.
For those who lived through the period of Stereo AM and who owned a Stereo AM 
tuner or radio? Sit back and remember.
I found this sample of Stereo AM - from radio station 3MP in Melbourne - on 
Youtube.
I’d love to know what type of tuner this recording was made from as the band 
width is quite wide.
My Sony tuner was capable of this but only after it had been adjusted.
Anyway hear for yourself.
https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DIPPOEIfU0bo%26t%3D3573s&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cf7da9f522f084d09c0a408d722751b21%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637015758670462283&sdata=nnMLBfAZL89pwR2dM0jRxSLqNcprB2ZLRXxfYhNhDRo%3D&reserved=0
















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Re: [all-audio] Great sounds of AM Stereo

2019-08-16 Thread Steve Jacobson
Dane,

Yes, I am aware of AM HD here, of course, and I do own a Sangean AM/FM HD 
Tuner.  However, it feels as though AM HD is gradually failing, although it is 
hard to know what will happen.  The sound is very good, but it takes very 
little static to cause the HD signal to not be useable and one is switched back 
to analog.  In addition, the HD signal requires a significant limitation to the 
analog bandwidth so AM HD stations tend to have analog sound that is not as 
wide in bandwidth as other AM stations that do not have an HD signal.  I live 
in the Metropolitan Minneapolis-St. Paul area of Minnesota, and at one point we 
had three AM HD stations, however we now have none at all.  AM HD seems to have 
taken a better hold in some other large cities, though.  It is fun, on 
occasion, to listen to HD signals from Chicago during the evening, some 400 
miles, 670 kilometers, away.  Those are very strong AM signals, though.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

-Original Message-
From: all-audio@groups.io  On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2019 1:11 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Great sounds of AM Stereo

Some of your AM stations are now broadcasting using HD.
I know someone who has a Sangean HDR16 HD radio and he has forwarded me 
recordings of HD sound from AM which doesn't sound too bad.
It sounds as though Am Stereo tuners were as different as standard tuners were.
I had one which I built from a kit which was extremely sensitive whilst my Sony 
tuner was as deaf as a doorpost.


-Original Message-
From: all-audio@groups.io  On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson
Sent: Saturday, 17 August 2019 3:47 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Great sounds of AM Stereo

Dane,

My old Carver TX 11A or 11B or whatever it was could receive Stereo AM of this 
quality.  They even had a 10KHZ notch filter to avoid hearing that tone if it 
was generated by an adjacent station in the United States.  I suspect they had 
models to filter out the 9 KHZ tone in much of the rest of the world.  The 
biggest gripe I had with my Carver tuner was that it was not very sensitive on 
AM.  It also had a very nice FM section in it as well with some interesting 
noise cancelling options.

While we don't have stereo AM in the United States any longer, there are still 
AM stations with very nice audio that use a fairly wide bandwidth.  However, 
the audio on AM now is very much limited by the bandwidth used by most radios 
of today, and I understand that the need isn't as strong as it once was with 
streaming and other options.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

-Original Message-
From: all-audio@groups.io  On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2019 7:23 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: [all-audio] Great sounds of AM Stereo

For those who have never heard the sound of Stereo AM before? Enjoy.
For those who lived through the period of Stereo AM and who owned a Stereo AM 
tuner or radio? Sit back and remember.
I found this sample of Stereo AM - from radio station 3MP in Melbourne - on 
Youtube.
I’d love to know what type of tuner this recording was made from as the band 
width is quite wide.
My Sony tuner was capable of this but only after it had been adjusted.
Anyway hear for yourself.
https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DIPPOEIfU0bo%26t%3D3573s&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cf7da9f522f084d09c0a408d722751b21%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637015758670462283&sdata=nnMLBfAZL89pwR2dM0jRxSLqNcprB2ZLRXxfYhNhDRo%3D&reserved=0












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Re: [all-audio] Great sounds of AM Stereo

2019-08-16 Thread Dane Trethowan
Some of your AM stations are now broadcasting using HD.
I know someone who has a Sangean HDR16 HD radio and he has forwarded me 
recordings of HD sound from AM which doesn't sound too bad.
It sounds as though Am Stereo tuners were as different as standard tuners were.
I had one which I built from a kit which was extremely sensitive whilst my Sony 
tuner was as deaf as a doorpost.


-Original Message-
From: all-audio@groups.io  On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson
Sent: Saturday, 17 August 2019 3:47 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Great sounds of AM Stereo

Dane,

My old Carver TX 11A or 11B or whatever it was could receive Stereo AM of this 
quality.  They even had a 10KHZ notch filter to avoid hearing that tone if it 
was generated by an adjacent station in the United States.  I suspect they had 
models to filter out the 9 KHZ tone in much of the rest of the world.  The 
biggest gripe I had with my Carver tuner was that it was not very sensitive on 
AM.  It also had a very nice FM section in it as well with some interesting 
noise cancelling options.

While we don't have stereo AM in the United States any longer, there are still 
AM stations with very nice audio that use a fairly wide bandwidth.  However, 
the audio on AM now is very much limited by the bandwidth used by most radios 
of today, and I understand that the need isn't as strong as it once was with 
streaming and other options.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

-Original Message-
From: all-audio@groups.io  On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2019 7:23 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: [all-audio] Great sounds of AM Stereo

For those who have never heard the sound of Stereo AM before? Enjoy.
For those who lived through the period of Stereo AM and who owned a Stereo AM 
tuner or radio? Sit back and remember.
I found this sample of Stereo AM - from radio station 3MP in Melbourne - on 
Youtube.
I’d love to know what type of tuner this recording was made from as the band 
width is quite wide.
My Sony tuner was capable of this but only after it had been adjusted.
Anyway hear for yourself.
https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DIPPOEIfU0bo%26t%3D3573s&data=02%7C01%7C%7C2676da24eea64cf7c52008d721dff5d0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637015118088352475&sdata=T9W7QtOsV3qA0ghtdkOpTgnZzEh1LcH4BKy3OONSAGI%3D&reserved=0









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Re: [all-audio] Great sounds of AM Stereo

2019-08-16 Thread Steve Jacobson
Dane,

My old Carver TX 11A or 11B or whatever it was could receive Stereo AM of this 
quality.  They even had a 10KHZ notch filter to avoid hearing that tone if it 
was generated by an adjacent station in the United States.  I suspect they had 
models to filter out the 9 KHZ tone in much of the rest of the world.  The 
biggest gripe I had with my Carver tuner was that it was not very sensitive on 
AM.  It also had a very nice FM section in it as well with some interesting 
noise cancelling options.  

While we don't have stereo AM in the United States any longer, there are still 
AM stations with very nice audio that use a fairly wide bandwidth.  However, 
the audio on AM now is very much limited by the bandwidth used by most radios 
of today, and I understand that the need isn't as strong as it once was with 
streaming and other options.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

-Original Message-
From: all-audio@groups.io  On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2019 7:23 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: [all-audio] Great sounds of AM Stereo

For those who have never heard the sound of Stereo AM before? Enjoy.
For those who lived through the period of Stereo AM and who owned a Stereo AM 
tuner or radio? Sit back and remember.
I found this sample of Stereo AM - from radio station 3MP in Melbourne - on 
Youtube.
I’d love to know what type of tuner this recording was made from as the band 
width is quite wide.
My Sony tuner was capable of this but only after it had been adjusted.
Anyway hear for yourself.
https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DIPPOEIfU0bo%26t%3D3573s&data=02%7C01%7C%7C2676da24eea64cf7c52008d721dff5d0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637015118088352475&sdata=T9W7QtOsV3qA0ghtdkOpTgnZzEh1LcH4BKy3OONSAGI%3D&reserved=0





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Re: [all-audio] Great sounds of AM Stereo

2019-08-16 Thread Brian Olesen
Hi,
Wow!
What more can I say?
Brian

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Emne: [all-audio] Great sounds of AM Stereo

For those who have never heard the sound of Stereo AM before? Enjoy.
For those who lived through the period of Stereo AM and who owned a Stereo AM 
tuner or radio? Sit back and remember.
I found this sample of Stereo AM - from radio station 3MP in Melbourne - on 
Youtube.
I’d love to know what type of tuner this recording was made from as the band 
width is quite wide.
My Sony tuner was capable of this but only after it had been adjusted.
Anyway hear for yourself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPPOEIfU0bo&t=3573s






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Re: [all-audio] Great sounds of AM Stereo

2019-08-15 Thread Hamit Campos

Wow cool homy.

On 8/15/2019 10:40 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Yep and that was before the advent of Digital Broadcasting formats.


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Sent: Friday, 16 August 2019 11:31 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
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Wow dude that was so good. Almost FM good.

On 8/15/2019 8:23 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

For those who have never heard the sound of Stereo AM before? Enjoy.
For those who lived through the period of Stereo AM and who owned a Stereo AM 
tuner or radio? Sit back and remember.
I found this sample of Stereo AM - from radio station 3MP in Melbourne - on 
Youtube.
I’d love to know what type of tuner this recording was made from as the band 
width is quite wide.
My Sony tuner was capable of this but only after it had been adjusted.
Anyway hear for yourself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPPOEIfU0bo&t=3573s














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Re: [all-audio] Great sounds of AM Stereo

2019-08-15 Thread Dane Trethowan
Yep and that was before the advent of Digital Broadcasting formats.


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From: all-audio@groups.io  On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Friday, 16 August 2019 11:31 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Great sounds of AM Stereo

Wow dude that was so good. Almost FM good.

On 8/15/2019 8:23 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
> For those who have never heard the sound of Stereo AM before? Enjoy.
> For those who lived through the period of Stereo AM and who owned a Stereo AM 
> tuner or radio? Sit back and remember.
> I found this sample of Stereo AM - from radio station 3MP in Melbourne - on 
> Youtube.
> I’d love to know what type of tuner this recording was made from as the band 
> width is quite wide.
> My Sony tuner was capable of this but only after it had been adjusted.
> Anyway hear for yourself.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPPOEIfU0bo&t=3573s
>
>
> 
>






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Re: [all-audio] Great sounds of AM Stereo

2019-08-15 Thread Hamit Campos

Wow dude that was so good. Almost FM good.

On 8/15/2019 8:23 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

For those who have never heard the sound of Stereo AM before? Enjoy.
For those who lived through the period of Stereo AM and who owned a Stereo AM 
tuner or radio? Sit back and remember.
I found this sample of Stereo AM - from radio station 3MP in Melbourne - on 
Youtube.
I’d love to know what type of tuner this recording was made from as the band 
width is quite wide.
My Sony tuner was capable of this but only after it had been adjusted.
Anyway hear for yourself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPPOEIfU0bo&t=3573s







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[all-audio] Great sounds of AM Stereo

2019-08-15 Thread Dane Trethowan
For those who have never heard the sound of Stereo AM before? Enjoy.
For those who lived through the period of Stereo AM and who owned a Stereo AM 
tuner or radio? Sit back and remember.
I found this sample of Stereo AM - from radio station 3MP in Melbourne - on 
Youtube.
I’d love to know what type of tuner this recording was made from as the band 
width is quite wide.
My Sony tuner was capable of this but only after it had been adjusted.
Anyway hear for yourself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPPOEIfU0bo&t=3573s


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