[framework-issues] [Issue 112141] Reintroduce color codes for mime type icons

2011-02-02 Thread methylene_blue
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--- Additional comments from methylene_b...@openoffice.org Wed Feb  2 
09:21:09 + 2011 ---
Goodbye OOo  and goodbye Issue Tracker!

Bdee-bdee, that's all folks

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[framework-issues] [Issue 112141] Reintroduce color codes for mime type icons

2011-01-31 Thread methylene_blue
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--- Additional comments from methylene_b...@openoffice.org Mon Jan 31 
16:06:00 + 2011 ---
Personally, I am sick to death of hearing about where we should really post
feedback in order to be heard or to contribute. I have posted all over the
place and computer magazines are already running articles on LibreOffice,
mentioning how Oracle sent OpenOffice to dungeon. 

The links you give, lh, are quite frankly the same old crap - colorless icons we
have been incessantly complaining about for over 6 months now. Since you insist,
I posted a comment in the discussion of your links pointing to the finest
examples of icons for this project.
(http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding/Mimetype_Icons/Proposals)
But you know, this project you mention is dead, lh. LibreOffice is already
underway to replace OpenOffice. 

And I must say, it is perhaps a blessing in disguise: Thanks to Oracle for
embittering the community enough to take matters into its own hands! OpenOffice
is now really libre. 

Oracle adé!

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[framework-issues] [Issue 112141] Reintroduce color codes f or mime type icons

2010-12-22 Thread methylene_blue
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--- Additional comments from methylene_b...@openoffice.org Wed Dec 22 
21:45:53 + 2010 ---
I hope you were good, for goodness sake, tommy27! Surely one of us were...
please?

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[framework-issues] [Issue 112141] Reintroduce color codes f or mime type icons

2010-11-19 Thread methylene_blue
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--- Additional comments from methylene_b...@openoffice.org Fri Nov 19 
19:52:36 + 2010 ---
Thanks for the comment ed2.

I noticed this too just after installing LibreOffice. The Start Center opens
with colored icons, but the menus have the monochrome ones we've all been
whining about here. So, aside from the fact that Libre is
corporation-independent, I can't understand the recommendations (e.g., by
tommy27, e7 and perhaps areynaldos?) to switch to Libre. I've gone back to the
resource-saving Go-Oo version 3.2.1 with the colored-icon solution presented in
this Issue.

Let's hope (and encourage!) Libre to demonstrate better sense than the Go-Oo
devs and breaks away from the monochromatic approach.

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[framework-issues] [Issue 112141] Reintroduce color codes f or mime type icons

2010-11-18 Thread methylene_blue
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--- Additional comments from methylene_b...@openoffice.org Thu Nov 18 
19:42:33 + 2010 ---
 hey guys, do you wanna some inspiration for new user friendly and
 productive icons? take a look here...
 
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding/Mimetype_Icons/Proposals

 I like dr.Faust's Eco-style the best...

If you would like to comment on the lovely icons, this is likely not an
effective place to do it. Please show the creators your support on the
discussion page!

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Talk:Marketing/Branding/Mimetype_Icons/Proposals

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[framework-issues] [Issue 112141] Reintroduce color codes f or mime type icons

2010-11-17 Thread methylene_blue
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--- Additional comments from methylene_b...@openoffice.org Wed Nov 17 
12:58:18 + 2010 ---
For whatever it may be worth, yet another Vote for Color Icons has been
started on the a
ref=http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Talk:ODF_icons_i-team;newly
created wiki for the i-team /a.

At this point I really do have to wonder who is making us repeat ourselves over
and over again. It's as if the responsible parties can only write and not read
English. Is Oracle behind this or some philosophical, idealistic Open-Document
movement at the top? Is it a conspiracy to kill OpenOffice? Must we find a way
to pry OpenOffice out of the hands of corporate sponsorship?

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[framework-issues] [Issue 112141] Reintroduce color codes f or mime type icons

2010-11-17 Thread methylene_blue
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--- Additional comments from methylene_b...@openoffice.org Wed Nov 17 
22:36:49 + 2010 ---
Nice icons for LibreOffice! Unique, easy to recognize and distinguish amongst
other application icons. 

Who would have thought that a change in just icons would drive users to seek
an alternative. Viva Libre!

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[framework-issues] [Issue 112141] Reintroduce color codes f or mime type icons

2010-11-16 Thread methylene_blue
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--- Additional comments from methylene_b...@openoffice.org Tue Nov 16 
23:20:51 + 2010 ---
THAT IS JUST FREAKING NUTS!!! WHAT IS THE BIG PROBLEM?

So following the recommendation of the community council we would like to make
the icons better. That’s why we are creating an i-team

Wait a minute! Aren't these the same people who once said they are just icons
and therefore introduced them into a minor-release? And now they are creating an
I-Team (???) for just icons to come up with some incredibly mysterious and
ingenious way of making monochrome icons more usable?

I recommend that ALL VOTERS on this list bombard these I-Team creators and
bureaucrats with protests against their new creation and letting them know how
preposterous their antics are and the need to get us back to simplicity and
usability as quickly as possible. They welcome the input of users and experts.
Yes, that's what it says: EXPERTS. Can you believe it?! Innovation Comedy of the
21st Century, folks! 

Oh yeah - do point out that a solution is already available. Just install
release 3.2.0 and have a look! And if they don't fancy that, they can always
take a look at all the icon contributions right here in this very issue!

Don't let them get away with this! 

(By the way, for some reason they think BLUE helps users identify the
document format and avoid conversion problems, and many of us know how much
freaking blue we already have on Windows OS' and some Linux window managers
(KDE) by default as well. Let them know their reasoning, assumptions and
assertions are completely frivolous.)

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[framework-issues] [Issue 109840] Ambiguous date field form at previews don't allow clear format selection .

2010-10-06 Thread methylene_blue
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User methylene_blue changed the following:

What|Old value |New value

Target milestone|---   |OOo 3.x

 Version|OOO320m12 |OOo 3.3 Beta 1





--- Additional comments from methylene_b...@openoffice.org Wed Oct  6 
16:27:30 + 2010 ---
Still an irritating issue in 3.3b.

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[framework-issues] [Issue 112141] Reintroduce color codes f or mime type icons

2010-09-25 Thread methylene_blue
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--- Additional comments from methylene_b...@openoffice.org Sat Sep 25 
18:24:48 + 2010 ---
@rainerbielefeld

impertinent flames only will prevent responsible staff to start fixing the
problem.

Just for the record: flames in no way influence responsible staff from fixing
a problem. However, comments not related to the issue (like this one, too, sorry
;-( make it increasingly difficult to track an issue.

Thankfully, this issue already has a solution and is just waiting for
Marketing  Branding to reach a decision.

All we can do now... is wait...

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[framework-issues] [Issue 112141] Reintroduce color codes f or mime type icons

2010-09-21 Thread methylene_blue
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--- Additional comments from methylene_b...@openoffice.org Tue Sep 21 
11:09:29 + 2010 ---
For the fourth time (!!!): this is by definition a TASK.

Change the Issue Type to TASK!

(Believe it or not, this is not trivial!)

Task is an activity to be done on behalf or in support of a feature or
enhancement. Tasks do not typically require direct changes to the code base.

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[framework-issues] [Issue 112141] Reintroduce color codes f or mime type icons

2010-09-21 Thread methylene_blue
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--- Additional comments from methylene_b...@openoffice.org Tue Sep 21 
11:14:25 + 2010 ---
Holy mackerel! That was fast! Thanks!!!

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[framework-issues] [Issue 112141] Reintroduce color codes f or mime type icons

2010-09-21 Thread methylene_blue
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--- Additional comments from methylene_b...@openoffice.org Tue Sep 21 
12:03:00 + 2010 ---
@tommy27
Issue was changed from P3 to P2 quite some time ago. P2 is correct.

P2 marks severe problems which affect a significant number of customers
Issues with this priority must be fixed before the target release (see Target
milestone), which usually is the next major release, and should be dealt with as
soon as possible. Not fixing them for the target release is not acceptable.

Unfortunately, the Target Milestone = OOo 3.x, which means at the latest this
issue would have to be resolved by release OOo 4.0 (yikes!)

Setting the Issue Type = TASK is a marker that no source code is involved in the
(already existing) fix, thereby avoiding any possible argument by Marketing 
Branding et al. based on the overhead complexity and effort of making a change. 

As far as I can tell, this is now in the hands of (currently vacationing)
decision makers in Oracle Marketing. I would hope to hear their position on this
in by the end of October, but I wouldn't bet on that.

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[framework-issues] [Issue 112141] Reintroduce color codes f or mime type icons

2010-09-17 Thread methylene_blue
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--- Additional comments from methylene_b...@openoffice.org Fri Sep 17 
12:09:34 + 2010 ---
This is obviously getting zero-point-zero attention. It still has the status NEW
(which means it is unassigned) and it is incorrectly typed as an ENHANCEMENT
(should be TASK). 

@cornouws - please see my post on Mon Aug 30 22:24:54 regarding the above and
advise what the community (we) can additionally do to get moving on this
issue! Please respond this time.

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[framework-issues] [Issue 112141] Reintroduce color codes f or mime type icons

2010-09-17 Thread methylene_blue
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--- Additional comments from methylene_b...@openoffice.org Fri Sep 17 
21:02:42 + 2010 ---
cornouws wrote:
 @meth_blue: as a one-time exception (I tend not to repeat what I have written
 before):

@cornouws: Indeed, I was hoping you wouldn't, cor! It would be nice to hear
something new and promising from you on this issue. And just for the record, I
have had to repeat myself as well to get a response out of you sometimes, so we
are pretty much even as far as forced-repetition goes ;-) I figured since you
take part in the Community Council Meetings you would be able to provide us with
some new insight. At least you could have mentioned what was in the August CC
Minutes regarding this (which I will now do here for you):
-
* 2010-08-12: Marketing contact is in vacation, and information also depends
on others at Oracle. More information defitively to come at the OOoCon,
presentation Brand Refresh and new Brand Initiative @
http://www.ooocon.org/index.php/ooocon/2010/paper/view/215. 
Next steps: Waiting for the reaction by Oracle, either getting in touch with the
community or an official announcement.
-

@cornouws (cont.): Since you appear to be able to set field values (e.g.,
STATUS, PRIORITY, etc.) for this issue, how about setting the ISSUE TYPE to TASK
for reasons I have already mentioned but will repeat again here: 

--- Additional comments from methylene_blue Mon Aug 30 22:24:54 + 2010
@cornouws
I think classifying this as ENHANCEMENT is incorrect since it does not improve a
feature (the monochrome icons removed the feature of color!). This is a TASK
which, as demonstrated by the fix presented here, does not require direct
changes to the code base! Please change the ISSUE TYPE to TASK. Perhaps that
will help put this on the table for 3.3 since there would be no compiling
involved - just simple packaging.


 And then still, 'zero-point-zero' is not true, although I agree that it really
 does look like that.
 Cheers, Cor

You're right. I can see it is being discussed and, as we see above, Marketing
is on vacation. So greater-than-zero-and-less-than-one would perhaps be more
fairly representative.

Thanks for the response.
Meth B.

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[framework-issues] [Issue 112141] Reintroduce color codes f or mime type icons

2010-08-30 Thread methylene_blue
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--- Additional comments from methylene_b...@openoffice.org Mon Aug 30 
22:24:54 + 2010 ---
 is this issue on the schedule of the OOo devs for OOo 3.3? 
Unfortunately, there is no reason to think so, tommy27. It is still assigned to
nobody (i.e., requirements) and is, by definition, not a show-stopper, though
it should be! As a matter of fact, in light of the controversy surrounding this
issue, the definition of show stopper should be modified to include issues
that will grossly effect branding/marketing of OOo. Moreover, as tanstaafl has
pointed out, the implementation of new icons turned out to be a major change
introduced in a minor release and this should be undone in the very next
release, whether major or minor, but certainly at the latest in 3.3

@cornouws
I think classifying this as ENHANCEMENT is incorrect since it does not improve a
feature (the monochrome icons removed the feature of color!). This is a TASK
which, as demonstrated by the fix presented here, does not require direct
changes to the code base! Please change the ISSUE TYPE to TASK. Perhaps that
will help put this on the table for 3.3 since there would be no compiling
involved - just simple packaging.


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[framework-issues] [Issue 109840] Ambiguous date field form at previews don't allow clear format selection .

2010-08-20 Thread methylene_blue
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User methylene_blue changed the following:

What|Old value |New value

 Assigned to|tm|mba

  Issue type|PATCH |DEFECT

Subcomponent|code  |www





--- Additional comments from methylene_b...@openoffice.org Fri Aug 20 
13:13:12 + 2010 ---
Please look into this small but irritating matter.

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[framework-issues] [Issue 109840] Ambiguous date field form at previews don't allow clear format selection .

2010-08-20 Thread methylene_blue
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--- Additional comments from methylene_b...@openoffice.org Fri Aug 20 
13:09:31 + 2010 ---
Created an attachment (id=71218)
Apparently redundant date format giving different results


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[framework-issues] [Issue 109840] Ambiguous date field form at previews don't allow clear format selection .

2010-08-20 Thread methylene_blue
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User methylene_blue changed the following:

What|Old value |New value

 Assigned to|mba   |tm

Subcomponent|www   |ui





--- Additional comments from methylene_b...@openoffice.org Fri Aug 20 
13:18:18 + 2010 ---
(subcomponent mistakenly set to www; reset to ui and reassigned to subcomponent
owner)

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[framework-issues] [Issue 112141] Reintroduce color codes f or mime type icons

2010-08-02 Thread methylene_blue
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--- Additional comments from methylene_b...@openoffice.org Mon Aug  2 
11:43:49 + 2010 ---
@cornouws
 Knowing that this issue is picked up, I see no touble [sic] in 3.x target.

What do you mean with picked up? Picked up by whom? Where? This issue has not
been added to the track 3.3 release issue 12 (see:
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=12). I'm not convinced that
this has been OFFICIALLY picked up by anybody in development. Only the
contributors in this issue (who are not involved in development as far as I can
tell) have picked up this issue. 

Are you the right person to be addressing this to? This issue has been assigned
to requirements (requirements) - which means who? Nobody! It has not been
picked up.

There are a total of two P2 issues assigned to requirements for the 3.x target
milestone. Shouldn't this be ASSIGNED TO SOMEBODY?!

(PS:
So pls understand my P2 to emphazise the importance.
Your P2 setting was done at MY request from Thu Jul 15 21:41:46 + 2010.)


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[framework-issues] [Issue 112141] Reintroduce color codes f or mime type icons

2010-07-30 Thread methylene_blue
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--- Additional comments from methylene_b...@openoffice.org Fri Jul 30 
18:29:13 + 2010 ---
 --- from Fri Jul 16 13:24:42 + 2010 ---
 @corounws: You mentioned that you do not see a big change that this will be
 finalised before 3.3.0. Is this still the case when this has P2? If so, why?
 
 2) @corounws: What needs to be done to assign this issue a Target Milestone?
 It is indeed troubling that this has not been set for this issue! And what 
 does
 Assigned to: requirements (requirements) mean? This also does not sound
 promising. We would expect to see a username or an issue owner here and not, 
 as
 in this case, a plural noun. Please advise!

@corounws: Would appreciate a response!


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[framework-issues] [Issue 112141] Reintroduce color codes f or mime type icons

2010-07-16 Thread methylene_blue
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--- Additional comments from methylene_b...@openoffice.org Fri Jul 16 
13:24:42 + 2010 ---
@tanstaffl 
cornouws is absolutely right: further comments on the importance of this issue
are not helpful.

@ALL
We needn't emotionalize this any further (actually not it all). We've complained
more than adequately - to the point of incredibility. Repeatedly venting anger
and even hostility reduces the serious discussion of this issue to a cheap
chat-room. Please refrain from swearing, name-calling or expressing violence
towards developers. Do that somewhere else, if you must, but NOT HERE. 

We must move forward on this issue. What does that mean? It means this:

1) This issue has been set from Priority 3 (P3) to Priority 2 (P2). What that
does, among other things, is REQUIRING that this issue be resolved for the next
release. Not fixing it is unacceptable. Issues with this priority must be fixed
before the target release (see Target milestone), which usually is the next
major release, and should be dealt with as soon as possible.
Not fixing them for the target release is not acceptable. (See
http://www.openoffice.org/scdocs/ddIssues_EnterModify.html#priority
for more info on Priorities.)

@corounws: You mentioned that you do not see a big change that this will be
finalised before 3.3.0. Is this still the case when this has P2? If so, why?

2) @corounws: What needs to be done to assign this issue a Target Milestone?
It is indeed troubling that this has not been set for this issue! And what does
Assigned to: requirements (requirements) mean? This also does not sound
promising. We would expect to see a username or an issue owner here and not, as
in this case, a plural noun. Please advise!

2) cornouws' comment (Thu Jul 15 20:55:40 + 2010) has evidently been helpful
to some of us (i.e., working together to create a temporary solution), but it is
probably beyond the skills of the discussion participants (including my own) to
integrate new icons into the OOo source code and recompile or even to create an
extension (which is also no piece of cake!). What has been offered so far (i.e.
colored shell file icons that can be integrated into the user's OS) is modestly
helpful. That is exemplary of the kind moving forward we need to do, so thanks
to prowlerxpla, jakobkramer and ticotexas for these! [Honorable mention goes to
kongnan (°±°)] 
!!! And at the time of writing morobus just submitted a new soffice.exe !!!
That's the spirit! 

3) Until this issue is resolved, use OOo 3.2.0 or Go-OO 3.2.0. unless there is
some fix or feature in 3.2.1 that is worth sacrificing the colored icons. syzygy
successfully deleted 3.2.1 and installed Go-OO 3.2. to return to the old colored
icons. If you do that, let us know by posting here! (I had read the release
notes and saw the new icons before doing an update. Since there are no fixes,
security patches or enhancements in 3.2.1 that are important for me, I decided
not to update from 3.2.0 to 3.2.1. I then deleted OOo 3.2.0 and tried Go-OO
3.2.0., which uses only a bit more than half as much memory than OOo does on Win
XP. 
-

Another contribution just came in from vvzh, making this entire comment seem
nearly superfluous...
mb

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[framework-issues] [Issue 112141] Reintroduce color codes f or mime type icons

2010-07-16 Thread methylene_blue
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--- Additional comments from methylene_b...@openoffice.org Fri Jul 16 
15:38:49 + 2010 ---
FYI - A little history on this issue and to show you this is an old,
pre-3.2.1-release (!) issue!

This issue was barely given attention in the recent Community Newsletter 

   http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=announcemsgNo=423. 

Document icon design: Christoph will formulate a proposal to be 
discussed with Stefan. This will be presented to the CC on the CC 
discuss mailing list.

That was it. :[

The latest Community Council Meeting Minutes

  
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Community_Council/Minutes#Minutes_of_Meetings

mentions that 'current ODF only icons seem to be undesired by the community',
but there is NO MENTION of the issue of monochrome vs. color icons! Why not?!!!
Please address this issue in the August meeting!!! Or is the CC not the right
place for this??? cornouws can you comment on this?

In the Minutes there is a link to the original, very lengthy discussion on ODF
vs. OOo icons, but there is no mention in there about the (colorless) start
center icons. I did find a thread to that and the topic of color was brought up
on April 19:

   http://marketing.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=brandingmsgNo=122

And the next response in that thread is exactly what has happened!!!
-
Hi Rosana, Jens, everyone,
Is there really no possible compromise on the use of a color scheme? And if
not, why?
I think this might be a huge usability hindrance. (I mean, before, people
thought to click the green to create a spreadsheet or click the orange for a
presentation. Now that's gone, and it's a lot harder to quickly find the
wanted application or file. Is the step back really necessary?)
=
And here was the answer given:
--
 1. Why is there a need for complete lack of colors (besides blue). What
 is the rationale?
   
The reason is to make the ODF icons promiment and not take the attention 
away from them by placing other elements with different colors on the 
start center. But as mentioned above the start center can be modified.
=
For those interested, you can follow the rest of that debate here:

http://marketing.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=brandingmsgNo=130

and continue following it by clicking on Next in thread: New start center
icons towards the top of each post.

Summary: One contributor summed up the discussion nicely with: if we are going
to discuss the color issue in that early stage, why do we expect the others to
accept the single color version?


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[framework-issues] [Issue 112141] Reintroduce color codes f or mime type icons

2010-07-16 Thread methylene_blue
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--- Additional comments from methylene_b...@openoffice.org Fri Jul 16 
18:32:12 + 2010 ---
Fantastic work, guys!

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[framework-issues] [Issue 112141] Reintroduce color codes f or mime type icons

2010-07-15 Thread methylene_blue
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--- Additional comments from methylene_b...@openoffice.org Thu Jul 15 
21:41:46 + 2010 ---
Then we should at least change the Priority from 3 to 2 since this is not a
non-trivial problem and this issue deserves greater attention! It is a severe
usability problem which will affect ALL customers and not just a noticeable 
number.

P3 marks non-trivial problems which probably affect a noticeable number of 
users.

P2 marks severe problems which affect a significant number of customers
Issues with this priority must be fixed before the target release (see Target
milestone), which usually is the next major release, and should be dealt with as
soon as possible. Not fixing them for the target release is not acceptable.

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[framework-issues] [Issue 112141] Reintroduce color codes f or mime type icons

2010-06-10 Thread methylene_blue
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--- Additional comments from methylene_b...@openoffice.org Thu Jun 10 
17:02:04 + 2010 ---
I too agree with all those here who don’t care for the new icons. In fact, these
colorless icons are a reason I will be sticking with OOo 3.2.0.
—–
The same monotone color for all module (Writer, Calc, etc) icons reduces the
recognizability of the modules themselves, thereby decreasing the usability and
user-friendliness within OOo. “By making the application icons uniform in color
and orb-like, OOo is really distinguishing itself from its main competitor”[1]
and shooting itself in the foot. It is a step counter-productive to attracting
users from the competitor. And surely with all the press and attention
OpenOffice has gotten over the years, it is not suffering from an identity
crisis anymore.
—–
“The similarity of the icons may also symbolically reflect the modular
architecture of OOo…” [1] and though that is important for developers (who know
that anyway), the symbolism is trivial for end users (who know it anyway, too,
and are not interested in architectural symbolism).
—–
“There is no OpenOffice.org branding in [the file icons] whatsoever.” [1]
Perhaps a good idea because the seagulls are a bit messy in the file icons, but
the ODF “logo” is bland and ugly and does not achieve a “lighter and less
cluttered” appearance, as is claimed for the application icons. Moreover,
end-users could give a hoot about pushing ODF as a standard open format. I wish
the design decision makers would stop trying to push their idealism and
concentrate instead on making an excellent product which speaks for itself! If
they absolutely have to, why not keep the “orb” theme and include a simple “O”
for odf-docs and a blank “orb” for non-odf, including, of course, COLOR!

“It is hoped that these will become the universal ODF icons that other
applications supporting ODF will adopt.”[1] As they are, I certainly hope not!
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1 -
http://www.patentpending.co.nz/soapbox/index.php/openoffice-org-new-setup-file-and-application-icons

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[graphics-issues] [Issue 76736] Text with text animation effects and custom animation isvisible when sildeshow starts.

2010-04-10 Thread methylene_blue
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--- Additional comments from methylene_b...@openoffice.org Sat Apr 10 
19:49:08 + 2010 ---
Created an attachment (id=68860)
Updated file for OOO320m12.9483


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[graphics-issues] [Issue 76736] Text with text animation effects and custom animation isvisible when sildeshow starts.

2010-04-10 Thread methylene_blue
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--- Additional comments from methylene_b...@openoffice.org Sat Apr 10 
19:48:48 + 2010 ---
Still an open issue in 320m12.9483. The blinking effect obviously follows an
algorithmic hierarchy (and probably not very well at that!) which is in no way
decipherable for the end user. (See updated attachment.)

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[framework-issues] [Issue 109840] Ambiguous date field form at previews don't allow clear format selection .

2010-03-05 Thread methylene_blue
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 Issue #|109840
 Summary|Ambiguous date field format previews don't allow clear
| format selection.
   Component|framework
 Version|OOO320m12
Platform|All
 URL|
  OS/Version|All
  Status|UNCONFIRMED
   Status whiteboard|
Keywords|
  Resolution|
  Issue type|PATCH
Priority|P3
Subcomponent|code
 Assigned to|tm
 Reported by|methylene_blue





--- Additional comments from methylene_b...@openoffice.org Fri Mar  5 
12:44:33 + 2010 ---
When selecting a format for a date field, the preview is set to display
variations of December 31, 1999. This chosen example date does not distinguish
between  DD,  and  D,  because 31 contains two-digits. This is
particularly disadvantageous in countries other than the Unites States where
single-digit days are expressed in a two-digit form with a leading zero. For
example:

D   = 5 April 1999 (31 December 1999)
DD   = 05 April 1999 (31 December 1999)

This also results in apparent redundant previews (e.g. 12/31/99) of date fields:
M/D/YY = 12/31/99 (using April 5, 1999 = 4/5/99)
MM/DD/YY = 12/31/99 (using April 5, 1999 = 04/05/99)

Requested fix: change 31 to a single-digit day to reflect leading zero in 
preview.

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[sc-issues] [Issue 98800] Toolbar icons for Enhanced Language Support can not be selectively remov ed.

2010-01-17 Thread methylene_blue
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--- Additional comments from methylene_b...@openoffice.org Sun Jan 17 
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Created an attachment (id=67246)
Icons for text direction in menu bar not selectively removable


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[sc-issues] [Issue 98800] Toolbar icons for Enhanced Language Support can not be selectively remov ed.

2010-01-17 Thread methylene_blue
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User methylene_blue changed the following:

What|Old value |New value

 Version|OOO300m9  |OOO310m19





--- Additional comments from methylene_b...@openoffice.org Sun Jan 17 
15:47:24 + 2010 ---
Why unconfirmed? Hmm... perhaps this is only happening in the German Build?
Please see screenshot from OOO310m19 (Build 9420)

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[sc-issues] [Issue 98800] Toolbar icons for Enhanced Language Support can not be selectively remov ed.

2009-02-03 Thread methylene_blue
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 Issue #|98800
 Summary|Toolbar icons for Enhanced Language Support can not be
| selectively removed.
   Component|Spreadsheet
 Version|OOO300m9
Platform|PC
 URL|
  OS/Version|All
  Status|UNCONFIRMED
   Status whiteboard|
Keywords|
  Resolution|
  Issue type|DEFECT
Priority|P3
Subcomponent|ui
 Assigned to|spreadsheet
 Reported by|methylene_blue





--- Additional comments from methylene_b...@openoffice.org Tue Feb  3 
16:19:00 + 2009 ---
When enhanced language support (ELS) is activated for either Asian languages or
Complex Text Layout (CTL), the toolbar icons for text direction (i.e. right to
left; top to bottom, etc.) cannot be selectively removed by
activating/deactivating their corresponding checkboxes. The only way to remove
them is either by turning (ELS) off or by deleting the icon entry entirely from
Commands List under Toolbar Content. 

Problem reproduction steps:
1) In Calc, activate ELS (Options  Language Settings  Languages) by selecting
the checkboxes enabling support for Asian and/or CCTL (complex text layout)
languages.
2) Customize the Format toolbar in Calc to include the four icons for
alternative text direction (right to left [text], left to right [text], , right
to left [paragraph], top to bottom [paragraph])
3) Try to remove the appearance of the icons by deactivating the corresponding
checkbox. They don't budge!

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[sc-issues] [Issue 98713] Duplicate shortcut keys on delete special menu (German version)

2009-02-03 Thread methylene_blue
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What|Old value |New value

  Issue type|PATCH |DEFECT





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[sc-issues] [Issue 98713] Duplicate shortcut keys on delete special menu (German version)

2009-02-01 Thread methylene_blue
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 Issue #|98713
 Summary|Duplicate shortcut keys on delete special menu (Germ
|an version)
   Component|Spreadsheet
 Version|OOO300m9
Platform|PC
 URL|
  OS/Version|Windows, all
  Status|UNCONFIRMED
   Status whiteboard|
Keywords|
  Resolution|
  Issue type|PATCH
Priority|P3
Subcomponent|ui
 Assigned to|spreadsheet
 Reported by|methylene_blue





--- Additional comments from methylene_b...@openoffice.org Mon Feb  2 
00:34:17 + 2009 ---
Delete Special (German: Inhalte löschen) pop-up menu contains duplicate
shortcut keys for Text and Format control boxes - both have the letter t for
the shortcut key.

Impact: When a users press the DEL-key to delete cell content, they normally
would be able to simply press a unique shortcut key to immediately check (and
uncheck) a control box. With a duplicate shortcut key the control box simply
gets the focus - a tap of the space key is additionally required to
activate/deactivate the control box.

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[graphics-issues] [Issue 76736] Text with text animation effects and custom animation isvisible when sildeshow starts.

2008-10-29 Thread methylene_blue
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Oct 29 19:00:22 + 
2008 ---
Created an attachment (id=57555)
Simple blinking text examples - nothing fancy


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[graphics-issues] [Issue 76736] Text with text animation effects and custom animation isvisible when sildeshow starts.

2008-10-29 Thread methylene_blue
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Oct 29 19:03:56 + 
2008 ---
Still an open issue in 3.0.0 b. 9358. The blink function simply does not work
properly: neither for a text-frame object nor for a geometric object (e.g.
rectangle) containing text; neither as a user-defined animation nor as formated
text. A single blink my be seen even if set to blink continuously. (See updated
attachment Wed. Oct 29)

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