[sc-issues] [Issue 75536] Quotient and rest calculat ions

2007-03-30 Thread romolo
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Mar 30 21:36:23 + 
2007 ---
Additional note:
I have just seen that gnumeric has a function mod(a;b) which is used for
rest(a;b) while importing xls documents; 
nevertheless also mod(a;b) brings bad results that do not satisfy a=qd+r.

Romolo


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[sc-issues] [Issue 75536] Quotient and rest calculat ions

2007-03-30 Thread romolo
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Mar 30 21:22:08 + 
2007 ---
Eike,
The spreadsheet implementation sign(r)==sign(d) brings funny result for rest as
it happens in excel2003; if you implement his rule for the rest without taking
into account the quotient you really do something wrong.
Excel really put the rest of the same sign of the divisor, but doing so the
condition a=qd+r is not satisfied in the example written in previous reporting.
Whatever is the way you want to solve this issue, please save the math and do
not follow excel2003 as -5!=5 and 5!=-5.
In any case it will bring incompatibilities with excel's bugs; but the question
then is: should be openoffice compatible with excel at bugs level ?
Please note that gnumeric, to cut the gordian knot, doesn't seem to have a
rest/remainder function.

Thanks,
Romolo

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[sc-issues] [Issue 75536] Quotient and rest calculat ions

2007-03-24 Thread romolo
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Mar 24 20:48:53 + 
2007 ---
Nevertheless excel implementation is wrong as least when you put quotient and 
rest
together:
trying all combinations of 5 (dividend d) and 10 (divisor D) with different sign
in excel we get for quotient (Q) and rest (R)

 d   D   Q   R
 5  10   0   5
-5  10  -0   5
 5 -10  -0  -5
-5 -10   0  -5

Apart the very funny invention of the concept of -0 in excel, now if we apply
the rule d=D*q+r we get that is verified only for the first and the fourth
expression not for the second and the third.

at least in openoffice you have:
 d   D   Q   R
 5  10   0   5
-5  10  -1   5
 5 -10  -1  -5
-5 -10   0  -5

that verify the condition anytime.

for math correctness you should have:
 d   D   Q   R
 5  10   0   5
-5  10  -1   5
 5 -10   0   5
-5 -10   1   5

Should openoffice follow compatibility to such a dumb program ?
Please don't change quotient to make it compatible with excel 


 
 



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[www-issues] Re: [Issue 75536] Quotient and rest calculations

2007-03-23 Thread Romolo Manfredini
If you see to my issue opening, to keep up compatibility with other spread
sheet, my suggestion is to put an optional parameter to force correct formal
behaviour, the same openoffice did with the ceiling function.
Furthermore it would be also interesting to have the "C" implementations of
integer division and rest  implemented as additional functions.

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> romolo,
> if we behave the same way as that other spreadsheet, then developers are
> unlikely to change the way Calc works even if that is not mathematically
> correct. Customers just have to deal with this.
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[sc-issues] [Issue 75536] Quotient and rest calculat ions

2007-03-23 Thread romolo
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Mar 23 21:00:52 + 
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Openoffice doesn't behaves as other spreadsheet at least for quotient:
quotient(5;10) Openoffice 0, Excel2003 0, Gnumeric 0
quotient(-5;10) Openoffice -1, Excel2003 -0, Gnumeric 0
quotient(5;-10) Openoffice -1, Excel2003 -0, Gnumeric 0
quotient(-5;-10) Openoffice 0, Excel2003 0, Gnumeric 0

The rest function behaves like in excel

Excel's invention of the concept of -0 apart, I think openoffice should
definitely choose whenever to follow compatibility (fully) or correctness.


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[sc-issues] [Issue 75536] Quotient and rest calculat ions

2007-03-19 Thread romolo
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Mar 20 00:07:15 + 
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Sorry the reference for "mode" parameter was wrongly to roundup function but
should be to ceiling one.

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[sc-issues] [Issue 75536] Quotient and rest calculat ions

2007-03-19 Thread romolo
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Mar 19 23:58:03 + 
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I think that actually openoffice implement the following to calculate quotient:
if a/b < 0 q=roundup(a/b)
if a/b > 0 q=rounddown(a/b)

to respect the theorem it should be
if a<0 q=roundup(a/b)
if a>0 q=rounddown(a/b)

with the rest then calculated as r=a-(b*q)

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[sc-issues] [Issue 75536] Quotient and rest calculat ions

2007-03-19 Thread romolo
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 Issue #|75536
 Summary|Quotient and rest calculations
   Component|Spreadsheet
 Version|OOo 2.1
Platform|All
 URL|
  OS/Version|All
  Status|UNCONFIRMED
   Status whiteboard|
Keywords|
  Resolution|
  Issue type|DEFECT
Priority|P3
Subcomponent|programming
 Assigned to|spreadsheet
 Reported by|romolo





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Mar 19 21:58:51 + 
2007 ---
The calculation of quotient and remainder should follow their definition in the
following theorem:
Given two integers a and d, with |d| ≠ 0
There exist unique integers q and r such that a = qd + r and 0 ≤ r < |d|, where
|d| denotes the absolute value of d.

The integer

* q is called the quotient
* r is called the remainder
* d is called the divisor
* a is called the dividend

while openoffice respect the theorem for d>0 some problem arise when both a and
d are less then 0.
Ie 
q=quotient(-5;-3)=1
r=rest(-5;-3)=-2
But according to the previous definition it should be 0 ≤ r < | d |.
from a mathematical point of view the correct solution should be:
q=quotient(-5;-3)=2
r=rest(-5;-3)=1

as can be verified by:
-5=-3*2+1

Also MS Excel behaves in the same (wrong) way.
A possible solution could be to keep compatibility with excel to implement an
optional mode parameter like in roundup function.

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[sc-issues] [Issue 68056] Datapilot column order

2006-08-23 Thread romolo
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  Status|CLOSED|REOPENED

  Resolution|INVALID   |





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Aug 23 23:44:44 -0700 
2006 ---
I would not consider asking to allow also custom ordering invalid, it's the 
only plase in which you cannot order by custom list. 
So please reopen and consider the votes instead of closing as invalid.
It's really a big limitation in use.


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[ui-issues] [Issue 68302] Add a "License" item to He lp menu

2006-08-13 Thread romolo
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  Status|UNCONFIRMED   |NEW

  Ever confirmed|  |1





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Aug 13 01:02:35 -0700 
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*** Issue 68302 has been confirmed by votes. ***

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[sc-issues] [Issue 33851] Paste/delete/modify cells and autofilter like MS Excel

2006-08-11 Thread romolo
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Aug 11 14:36:14 -0700 
2006 ---
I have migrated my company to OOo (80+ people).
We are part of a much more larger company (1000+), our migration was a test 
drive of OOo.
After having unvoluntary issued a duplicate of this issue and discovered ist 
history I will stop the migration (three relevant datalosses in one day) as 
probably my data are as valuable as the money I will have to pay to Microsoft 
to update the existing version of their suite.
I can live with bugs but not with design decisions that compromise my activity 
and that are unconfortable to me. 
Let's wait for OOo 2.1 to see if something changes.
Anyway 1 vote more for this issue.
I indeed think that priority SHOULD BE P2 and type DEFECT.


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[sc-issues] [Issue 68350] Drag and copy affects also filtered out cells

2006-08-10 Thread romolo
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 Issue #|68350
 Summary|Drag and copy affects also filtered out cells
   Component|Spreadsheet
 Version|OOo 2.0.2
Platform|PC
 URL|
  OS/Version|All
  Status|UNCONFIRMED
   Status whiteboard|
Keywords|
  Resolution|
  Issue type|DEFECT
Priority|P3
Subcomponent|editing
 Assigned to|spreadsheet
 Reported by|romolo





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Aug 10 07:08:32 -0700 
2006 ---
When you have a spreadsheet with a filter applied dragging and copying to a 
range of cells applies modifications also to cells not visible at the moment.
This behaviour facilitates unwilled modifications to range of cells that 
should not be modified.
The behaviour is inconsistent with the behaviour of cuncurrent products from 
which we are migrating at the moment.

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[sc-issues] [Issue 68057] Strange dragging behaviour for calendar date

2006-08-08 Thread romolo
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 Attachment data|  |Created an attachment (id=
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Dragging of three d
|  |ifferent spreadsheets






--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Aug  8 14:50:46 -0700 
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Created an attachment (id=38353)
Dragging of three different spreadsheets


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[sc-issues] [Issue 68057] Strange dragging behaviour for calendar date

2006-08-08 Thread romolo
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Aug  8 14:22:41 -0700 
2006 ---
I will prefer to have this issue marked as defect, it's causing a lot of 
confusion in 80+ users I forced to migrate to openoffice. 
Furthermore for migration is incongruent with the behaviour of the concurrency.
No other spreadsheet in this world behaves like that.


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[sc-issues] [Issue 68057] Strange dragging behaviour for calendar date

2006-08-02 Thread romolo
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Aug  2 13:43:24 -0700 
2006 ---
platform 
intel x86: win2k sp4, winxp sp2, suse linux 10.0, suse linux 10.1
amd athlon 64: suse linux 10.0, suse linux 10.1



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[sc-issues] [Issue 68057] Strange dragging behaviour

2006-08-01 Thread romolo
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 Issue #|68057
 Summary|Strange dragging behaviour
   Component|Spreadsheet
 Version|OOo 2.0.3
Platform|All
 URL|
  OS/Version|All
  Status|UNCONFIRMED
   Status whiteboard|
Keywords|
  Resolution|
  Issue type|DEFECT
Priority|P3
Subcomponent|editing
 Assigned to|spreadsheet
 Reported by|romolo





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Aug  1 17:28:49 -0700 
2006 ---
Open a new spreadsheed, 
write in A1: 1, in A2: 1, select A1-A2 drag using the bottom right corner on A3-
A12 and it will fill A3-A12 with 1 (right behaviour)
Write in A1: jan, in A2: jan, select A1-A2 drag using the bottom right corner 
on A3-A12 and it will fill A3-A12 with feb,mar,apr,maj,jun,jul,aug,sep,oct,nov 
(wrong behaviour)
The problem is present at least in the italian release of OOo, check on other 
language, the name of the months are translated just to clarify, the test was 
made with gen,gen and corrispondant italian months.

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[sc-issues] [Issue 68056] Datapilot column order

2006-08-01 Thread romolo
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 Attachment data|  |Created an attachment (id=
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sample calc file






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Created an attachment (id=38190)
sample calc file


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[sc-issues] [Issue 68056] Datapilot column order

2006-08-01 Thread romolo
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 Issue #|68056
 Summary|Datapilot column order
   Component|Spreadsheet
 Version|OOo 2.0.3
Platform|All
 URL|
  OS/Version|All
  Status|UNCONFIRMED
   Status whiteboard|
Keywords|
  Resolution|
  Issue type|DEFECT
Priority|P3
Subcomponent|formatting
 Assigned to|spreadsheet
 Reported by|romolo





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Aug  1 17:17:50 -0700 
2006 ---
Ordering datapilot columns by cells containing a month name jan,feb... (or in 
italian gen feb)  doesn't work. 
Only alphabetical order is applied even if the source cell is formatted as MMM. 
It should be auspicable in such cases to order even by user defined order lists.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 24500] Pasting table content into existing writer tables

2006-08-01 Thread romolo
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Aug  1 16:39:24 -0700 
2006 ---
I will propose increasing of priority for this bug to P2 according to priority 
specifications:
P2 marks severe problems which affect a significant number of customers
eg. Critical usability problem

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[sw-issues] [Issue 68053] Copying table or table par ts

2006-08-01 Thread romolo
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 Issue #|68053
 Summary|Copying table or table parts
   Component|Word processor
 Version|OOo 2.0.3
Platform|All
 URL|
  OS/Version|All
  Status|UNCONFIRMED
   Status whiteboard|
Keywords|
  Resolution|
  Issue type|DEFECT
Priority|P2
Subcomponent|editing
 Assigned to|mru
 Reported by|romolo





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Aug  1 14:05:46 -0700 
2006 ---
This is a severe usability issue about interoperability between scalc and 
swriter:
you select a range of cells in calc, if you paste them in swriter you get a 
scalc embedded object (this is normal) if you paste special as html you get a 
new swriter table.
If you paste in an existing swriter table it's impossible to get the cells 
copied in the appropriate cells. (I tried any combination)
This is a normal activity that my users (80 users previously using MS Office) 
were doing all the time with the MS suite. 
I have explained them to copy in a white space, selecting the cells from the 
newly created table and paste in the existing table and delete the temporary 
table as a workaround but they are complaining it's a rather cucumbersome 
process (I personally agree).
Several of them are pressing our management (convinced by me to adopt OOo) to 
go back to MS Office. 
I have people doing this kind of activity 5 hours a day when compiling reports, 
they are really unhappy about my choice. 
Best regards

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[framework-issues] [Issue 65750] New - Copy & Paste calc -> writer

2006-05-24 Thread romolo
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  Issue #:|65750
  Summary:|Copy & Paste calc -> writer
Component:|framework
  Version:|OOo 2.0.2
 Platform:|All
  URL:|
   OS/Version:|All
   Status:|UNCONFIRMED
Status whiteboard:|
 Keywords:|
   Resolution:|
   Issue type:|DEFECT
 Priority:|P3
 Subcomponent:|ui
  Assigned to:|tm
  Reported by:|romolo





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed May 24 08:49:16 -0700 
2006 ---
Copying and pasting a range of cells of calc into a same sized range of cells 
of writer cause the content of the whole range to be copied in any cell of the 
writer document. To facilitate migration from MS Office to OOo a behaviour 
similar to MS Office should be implemented.
The only workaround at the moment is to copy the cells as rtf in a empty 
section of the document, select the newly created table and paste it and delete 
the table created by RTF pasting.

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[l10n-issues] [Issue 56393] IT: The README file is pa rtially untranslated

2006-01-02 Thread romolo
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  What|Old value |New value

Status|UNCONFIRMED   |NEW

Ever confirmed|  |1





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jan  2 13:46:13 -0800 
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*** Issue 56393 has been confirmed by votes. ***

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[sc-issues] [Issue 24271] Mathematical error in Cal c, -4^2

2005-12-11 Thread romolo
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Dec 11 17:34:46 -0800 
2005 ---
Indeed window calculator answer is 16 
excel 2003 16 too, 
the reported page from microsoft states it's not a bug but a feature, they 
state:

"Microsoft Excel uses an order of calculation to evaluate operators in formulas.
The order of evaluation of operators dictates that a minus sign (-) used as a 
negation operator (such as -1) is evaluated before all other operators."

As a migrating user (60 WS) I will prefer to keep on with MS behaviour instead 
of breaking the perhaps wrong rule,
I prefer to know that I have to put some braces more (as i do actually) when I 
really want to calculate -(x^2) instead of having to check all the spreadsheets 
of my company for incompatible math formulas.

Best regards
Romolo Manfredini


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[sw-issues] [Issue 59221] New - Wrong rapresentation of formula

2005-12-11 Thread romolo
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  Issue #:|59221
  Summary:|Wrong rapresentation of formula
Component:|Formula editor
  Version:|OOo 2.0
 Platform:|PC
  URL:|
   OS/Version:|Windows, all
   Status:|UNCONFIRMED
Status whiteboard:|
 Keywords:|
   Resolution:|
   Issue type:|DEFECT
 Priority:|P3
 Subcomponent:|code
  Assigned to:|mru
  Reported by:|romolo





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Dec 11 17:00:48 -0800 
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sin(x) over cos(x) is wrongly displayed as

  (x)
sin --- (x)
  cos

which is confusing and formally wrong under any aspect, to get a semiproper 
result the following has to be entered (sin(x)) over (cos(x))
which shows the following

(sin(x))

(cos(x))

mathematically more correct but very bad to be seen.

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[graphics-issues] [Issue 47452] Images not properly showed after transitions

2005-04-14 Thread romolo
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   Attachment data|  |Created an attachment
  |  |(id=25056) A powerpoint
  |  |file showing the issue at
  |  |the end of the first page





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Created an attachment (id=25056)
A powerpoint file showing the issue at the end of the first page


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[graphics-issues] [Issue 47452] New - Images not properly showed after transitions

2005-04-14 Thread romolo
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  Issue #:|47452
  Summary:|Images not properly showed after transitions
Component:|Presentation
  Version:|680m91
 Platform:|Other
  URL:|
   OS/Version:|Windows 2000
   Status:|UNCONFIRMED
Status whiteboard:|
 Keywords:|
   Resolution:|
   Issue type:|DEFECT
 Priority:|P3
 Subcomponent:|viewing
  Assigned to:|wg
  Reported by:|romolo





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Apr 14 07:07:49 -0700 
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Powerpoint presentations are incorrectly showed.
A presentation containing an image with applied a transition effect shows a 
black square instead of the image at transition end.
The problem does not exist in 1.1.X release.

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