[dba-issues] [Issue 93453] no context sensitive help at all in database forms

2009-04-12 Thread natalia_hitekschool
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  Status|VERIFIED  |CLOSED





--- Additional comments from natalia_hiteksch...@openoffice.org Mon Apr 13 
00:51:29 + 2009 ---
Fixed on OOo310m9, can be closed

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[dba-issues] [Issue 93453] no context sensitive help at all in database forms

2009-04-10 Thread nadejda
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--- Additional comments from nade...@openoffice.org Fri Apr 10 07:52:33 
+ 2009 ---
Verified in master version dev 3.1

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[dba-issues] [Issue 93453] no context sensitive help at all in database forms

2008-12-17 Thread jsk
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  Status|RESOLVED  |VERIFIED





--- Additional comments from j...@openoffice.org Wed Dec 17 12:03:46 + 
2008 ---
Looks better now, verified along with issue 96418

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[dba-issues] [Issue 93453] no context sensitive help at all in database forms

2008-12-14 Thread pb
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--- Additional comments from p...@openoffice.org Sun Dec 14 18:32:13 + 
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pb -> tk: please verify. Thx.


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[dba-issues] [Issue 93453] no context sensitive help at all in database forms

2008-11-21 Thread ufi
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[dba-issues] [Issue 93453] no context sensitive help at all in database forms

2008-11-21 Thread ufi
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[dba-issues] [Issue 93453] no context sensitive help at all in database forms

2008-11-20 Thread pb
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  Status|NEW   |RESOLVED

  Resolution|  |FIXED





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Nov 20 10:35:47 + 
2008 ---
pb: fixed in cws fwk98.
Files changed:
/sfx2/source/appl/sfxhelp.cxx 264035


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[dba-issues] [Issue 93453] no context sensitive help at all in database forms

2008-09-08 Thread fpe
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 Assigned to|fpe   |pb





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Sep  8 09:34:59 + 
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>We could examine the help context, and in case of
"swform", "swreport", and "dbreport", we could just use the help context
"sdatabase".

For now, this seems to be the way to go. Sending this to Peter.

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[dba-issues] [Issue 93453] no context sensitive help at all in database forms

2008-09-05 Thread fs
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Sep  5 21:40:22 + 
2008 ---
Technically, "swform" is the short name of the *module* "Database Forms
implemented by Writer" (And, btw. there is also a module "Database reports
implemented by Writer", short-named "swreport"; a module "XML Form Documents",
short-named "swxform"; and a module "Database Reports implemented by the Sun
Report Builder", short-named "dbreport" :-\).

A module is the ensemble of all documents of the same type. All such documents
share the same UI configuration (toolbars, menus, accelerators), unless of
course overruled by the configuration stored in a particular document.

More precise, if you want a class of documents to have a separate UI
configuration (as is the case for database forms and database reports, even when
they're technically Writer documents), then you *need* to create an own module
for them.


Having said all that, I am not sure whether or not the issue is properly
assigned to you. I could imagine a solution in the code, right before the
Help-URL is assembled. We could examine the help context, and in case of
"swform", "swreport", and "dbreport", we could just use the help context
"sdatabase".

Altertnatively (and to judge this proposal, I cc AS here), I could imagine to
extend the definition of a module: At the moment, this definition includes the
mentioned short name, but there is not really (I think) a reason why this short
name must also be used as a help context name. Perhaps we could separate those
two aspects of a module. 

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[dba-issues] [Issue 93453] no context sensitive help at all in database forms

2008-09-05 Thread fpe
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 Assigned to|pb|fpe





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Sep  5 14:22:02 + 
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> In this case I guess a change to main_transform can do the trick but
it will be a hack ultimately folding the swform context back to sdatabase.

Thinking about this, I am afraid, this won't do. For extended tips and context
sensitivity to work, every context needs its own set of help files. It's a
pseudo-application, so to speak. A similar situation exists for schart.

So adding the swform context would require to identify all help files for that
context and modify the makefiles to create the corresponding help files when the
help is built.

Why do we need an extra context for database forms? What are contexts used for?

Reassigning to myself.

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[dba-issues] [Issue 93453] no context sensitive help at all in database forms

2008-09-05 Thread fpe
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Sep  5 13:05:05 + 
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fpe > fs: Historically, there was a context per application (swriter, scalc,
schart, smath, simpress, sdraw, sbasic). This also determines how the help is
structured.

We cannot simply add new contexts without having to take a close look at the way
the help contexts are assigned or the situation with sub-contexts and/or
overlapping contexts gets messy.

The very minimum is to let us know that there will be a new context before you
create it. In this case I guess a change to main_transform can do the trick but
it will be a hack ultimately folding the swform context back to sdatabase.

What is the policy for creating new contexts in the applications?



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[dba-issues] [Issue 93453] no context sensitive help at all in database forms

2008-09-05 Thread fs
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Sep  5 09:25:03 + 
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fs->ufi: so is this something which can be fixed in the help files (perhaps by
adding something like a rule "swform is a sub context of sdatabase"?), or do we
need to fix this (i.e. add this rule) programmatically?

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[dba-issues] [Issue 93453] no context sensitive help at all in database forms

2008-09-05 Thread ufi
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Sep  5 09:14:24 + 
2008 ---
set the environment variable HELP_DEBUG and then press Shift+F1 to inspect what
happens: --> you've defined the context "swform" which is not known to the Help.
So no help at all.

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[dba-issues] [Issue 93453] no context sensitive help at all in database forms

2008-09-04 Thread fs
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Keywords|  |usability

Target milestone|---   |OOo 3.1





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Sep  4 07:28:10 + 
2008 ---
not having any help in forms is Bad (TM), I'd say we should fix this for the
next release => 3.1

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[dba-issues] [Issue 93453] no context sensitive help at all in database forms

2008-09-04 Thread fs
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Sep  4 07:27:23 + 
2008 ---
Created an attachment (id=56212)
document to reproduce the bug case


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[dba-issues] [Issue 93453] no context sensitive help at all in database forms

2008-09-04 Thread fs
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 Issue #|93453
 Summary|no context sensitive help at all in database forms
   Component|Database access
 Version|OOO300m3
Platform|All
 URL|
  OS/Version|All
  Status|NEW
   Status whiteboard|
Keywords|
  Resolution|
  Issue type|DEFECT
Priority|P3
Subcomponent|none
 Assigned to|pb
 Reported by|fs





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Sep  4 07:26:45 + 
2008 ---
- open the attached database document
- open the contained form for editing ("Edit" in its context menu)
- double-click the control in the form to open its property browser
- focus any input control in the property browser
- press F1
=> the help viewer opens
=> the current component in the Help window is "OpenOffice.org Writer"
   (it should probably be Base instead)
=> the help text is empty

The expected result is that the help for the focused property is displayed. This
help topic is there, as you can see when you search for the propertie's name,
but it's just not displayed.


This is not only a problem with the property browser, but seemingly with *all*
help in a database form. For instance, another manifestation is
- Help / What's This?
=> the mouse cursor changes in an arrow with question mark
- hover over an arbitrary item in an arbitrary toolbar of the database form
=> no help text appears

If you do the same in a text document, the quick help texts appear as expected.


My conclusion/assumption is that there's some code in the help framework, which
decides which Help module to use dependent on the application module, and that
this code is unable to cope with the com.sun.star.sdb.FormDesign module.

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