[framework-issues] [Issue 113644] Printing on 12 Inch Fanfo ld Paper

2010-10-27 Thread juebo
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--- Additional comments from ju...@openoffice.org Wed Oct 27 18:53:29 + 
2010 ---
I downloaded LibreOffice 3.3. With the Mark set at "Use Slot From Printer
Settings" it works. But only once. After that the printer setting is changed to
"A4". Not good.


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[framework-issues] [Issue 113644] Printing on 12 Inch Fanfo ld Paper

2010-10-27 Thread juebo
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--- Additional comments from ju...@openoffice.org Wed Oct 27 13:57:28 + 
2010 ---
Well ok, I have a 3.2.1, since 3.3 is beta. So let's wait for LibreOffice 3.3 
:-)

Thank you so far.

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[framework-issues] [Issue 113644] Printing on 12 Inch Fanfo ld Paper

2010-10-27 Thread pl
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--- Additional comments from p...@openoffice.org Wed Oct 27 13:44:39 + 
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Last time I looked that override works quite fine on a 3.3.

"Letter" is 8.5 by 11 inches (215.9 mm × 279.4 mm), the usage equivalent for
"A4" in the United States.

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[framework-issues] [Issue 113644] Printing on 12 Inch Fanfo ld Paper

2010-10-27 Thread juebo
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--- Additional comments from ju...@openoffice.org Wed Oct 27 13:38:32 + 
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If this would work, it would be nice (half as nice as leaving the form-settings
alone). But it does not work!
And printing a second time the form has changed from "12 inch" to "Letter" (I do
not know at all, what Letter-format is).




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[framework-issues] [Issue 113644] Printing on 12 Inch Fanfo ld Paper

2010-10-27 Thread pl
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--- Additional comments from p...@openoffice.org Wed Oct 27 12:49:40 + 
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Then your solution is even simpler: when you do File->Print, press the
"Properties..." button to get the driver dialog and change the paper to 12in.
That way 12in will be taken since it is a user override.

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[framework-issues] [Issue 113644] Printing on 12 Inch Fanfo ld Paper

2010-10-27 Thread juebo
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--- Additional comments from ju...@openoffice.org Wed Oct 27 12:43:22 + 
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Ok, when this is true then the solution is: Do not change the printer-setting!
There must be a reason, why the inventors of windows(tm) created a printer
settings dialog.

When I create a document, I actually do not know, where I am going to print it.
Normally I use A4 and print on a single sheet printer in letter quality.
But when my boss comes around with "could you please give me a copy of the last
200 letters to xxx" I am going to use the Nec in draft quality (to reduce
costs). And it is not really possible to change the page-format of 200 letters!
The more so as changing the page format will change the wrapping.

I understand your point of view, but I do not have this problem (I do not really
know about it).
There is no problem, when the page-format is the same as the form-format. And
there should be no problem, when the form is longer then the page. In this case,
the rest of the form should be left blank.
But it is terribly wrong to change the form-format according to the
page-setting. Once again: "form" is physically, "page" is logically.
And when I know, I will print an envelope, I can set the printer setting
according to this.

Perhaps it would be a good idea to implement a "check box" with "use form
settings from printer" resp. "change printer (form) setting according to page".
 


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[framework-issues] [Issue 113644] Printing on 12 Inch Fanfo ld Paper

2010-10-27 Thread pl
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--- Additional comments from p...@openoffice.org Wed Oct 27 11:48:42 + 
2010 ---
Sorry to disappoint, but OOo makes a "FormFeed" at the end of each page
(assuming that is what the printer driver on Windows would finally make of the
Win32 API call EndPage). However not setting the paper size according to the
document would break all documents that rely on printers supporting different
page formats, automatically switching to the correct input slot. E.g. this is
used for envelope printing where a document contains the envelope as well as the
letter.

However you already seem to have the right answer: design you document to be 12
in, not pretend to be A4 when in fact it is not. Would that not be the right 
way ?

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[framework-issues] [Issue 113644] Printing on 12 Inch Fanfo ld Paper

2010-10-27 Thread juebo
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--- Additional comments from ju...@openoffice.org Wed Oct 27 11:27:06 + 
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Ah OK! I did a cross check and it is not the same: I defined (in OOo) a Page
with 210mm width and 50 mm length and printed on my canon.
In this case in the printer dialog appears a "user defined" form and it works
well. After each Page a "Form Feed" appears.

And there the problem seems to be! OOo overwrites the printer settings. 
The "form feed" is not generated by OOo but by the printer. This is not good!

With my Nec I use a form which is physically 12 Inch(304.8 mm) long. When OOo
tells the printer the form size was 297 mm, this can not match. With a single
sheet feeder you probably won't realise this difference, but with fanfold this
positioning error adds.

You should distinguish between a physical "form" (12 inch, defined in printer
settings) and a logical "page" (A4, defined in OOo). These two settings do not
need to be the same!

The Solution would be:
OOo leaves the printer settings unchanged.
OOo prints to the end of the "page" and performs a "form feed".
The printer will understand this "form feed" and will transport the paper to the
beginning of the next "form".

The other way: 
My OOo (German localisation) does not know anything about a 12 inch "page"
(format - page) although defined in print-SERVER-setting (not printer settings).
But alas, this is not really the main problem.

  

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[framework-issues] [Issue 113644] Printing on 12 Inch Fanfo ld Paper

2010-10-27 Thread hi
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--- Additional comments from h...@openoffice.org Wed Oct 27 09:08:18 + 
2010 ---
Relating to the last paragraph from your first comment, you said that you have 
to type the settings again at the OOo print dialog.
I did the settings 8.5" x 12" at the driver and the print dialog shows me the 
same.
Unfortunately I've not a printer for fanfold paper.

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[framework-issues] [Issue 113644] Printing on 12 Inch Fanfo ld Paper

2010-10-26 Thread juebo
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--- Additional comments from ju...@openoffice.org Tue Oct 26 18:46:29 + 
2010 ---
As you said: "the xerox printer is not for fanfold paper" how can it work for 
you?
The Problem only occurs, when the form (printer) is longer than the page (ooo)

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[framework-issues] [Issue 113644] Printing on 12 Inch Fanfo ld Paper

2010-10-26 Thread hi
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--- Additional comments from h...@openoffice.org Tue Oct 26 10:31:30 + 
2010 ---
Unfortunately nec.com does not offer a driver for the p6 model (anymore).
I've tried it with an Xerox Printer where the printer settings are kept for
printing. 
Ok, the xerox printer is not for fanfold paper but the test was just to looking
for keeping the printer settings.
>From my point of view: Worksforme.

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[framework-issues] [Issue 113644] Printing on 12 Inch Fanfo ld Paper

2010-08-04 Thread of
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--- Additional comments from o...@openoffice.org Wed Aug  4 10:51:52 + 
2010 ---
reassigned

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[framework-issues] [Issue 113644] Printing on 12 Inch Fanfo ld Paper

2010-08-04 Thread juebo
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 Issue #|113644
 Summary|Printing on 12 Inch Fanfold Paper
   Component|framework
 Version|OOo 3.2
Platform|PC
 URL|
  OS/Version|Windows XP
  Status|UNCONFIRMED
   Status whiteboard|
Keywords|
  Resolution|
  Issue type|FEATURE
Priority|P4
Subcomponent|ui
 Assigned to|tm
 Reported by|juebo





--- Additional comments from ju...@openoffice.org Wed Aug  4 10:46:24 + 
2010 ---
Why is it not possible to print (easyly) on a 12inch fanfold paper? 
Why is the "Printer Setting" ignored compleatly?
Why is it not possible to import a form setting from "Printer Setting?

I am using mostly the page setting "A4" which is 297 mm long. From time to time
I am going to print these documents on my NEC P6 with 12 Inch paper (304.8 mm
long). So I chose in "printer setting" 8.5 x 12 inch.
I would expect that OOo would print 297 mm and would then perform a form feed
according to the printer settings. But OOo prints 297 mm, does some obscure
linefeeds, and prints 297 mm again. With the result that the printer prints into
the perforation after page 3.

To work araund this I have to define a page which is 304.8 mm long, with an
extra margin to fit to "A4" (to avoid wrapping), which is troublesome. And it
works for about 10 pages, because the feeding error is adding!

When I have defined a Form in "Printer Setting" which is i.e. 210mm wide and
304.8 mm long, why do I have to type this again in OOo and not "use my form"?
Even "Wordpad" can manage this!

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