[framework-issues] [Issue 11884] Quit menu item is confu sing and unnecessary.
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=11884 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Sep 15 00:04:28 -0700 2005 --- Well, I have used these shortcuts a LOT; they are very useful. Firefox, for example, is an app that allows multiple tabs in a window, and multiple windows open at the same time. Ctrl-W will close a tab or a window that has only no tabs, but File-Quit or Alt-F4 will close the entire app, all windows and tabs at once. Granted, Firefox is not an editor, so no files are modified, but the effect is the same. What I like about FF is that it will warn you if you try to close all the tabs on a window at once. OOo doesn't do that, and maybe it should. The big thing to remember is that OOo is ONE application, not 3, 4, or 5, no matter how many different kinds of documents it can open at once. Think about GIMP (opens many kinds of graphic files) or MS-Works (better example). MSW can open any of at least 4 types of files at once and, though I don't remember 'cause I would not use it even if paid to do so, I think it recognizes the same command structure. I repeat, it's a matter of learning the CUA keys and remembering that OOo is one application, not 6 (writer/calc/impress/draw/base/math). The MS Office suite is NOT one application, so you would be right if you were using it and got this kind of behavior. I must admit that I'm not the typical user; I use keyboard shortcuts heavily, because I hate having to move my hands from the keyboard back and forth to my trackball/mouse. When I teach others to use programs on their computers, I teach them about these shortcuts. My experience is that most users watching me use my computer are amazed at how efficient I am. They WANT to know these shortcuts, too. Most have never bothered to learn them. Tell some unfortunate Windows user who has a rogue website opening up popup windows in Internet Explorer that they don't have to chase the red X on them with the mouse, they can just Ctrl-W repeatedly, and they'll thank you profusely! Anyway, if you want to continue the discussion, let's do it elsewhere. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[framework-issues] [Issue 11884] Quit menu item is confu sing and unnecessary.
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=11884 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Sep 14 02:13:57 -0700 2005 --- I think everyone agrees that it is a common short-cut, but who uses it, except by misstake? What is the use-case? For me, and the other commentor, it seems to be used more often by misstake than by will and the time lost is larger than finding the windows and pressing ctrl-w over and over again the few times you actually would want to use the feature. I've asked around and I've yet to find anyone that uses that menu-item, nor short-cut. Some window managers/OSes allow you to group windows of the same kind in some taskbar and close them all with the same menu item. Isn't that the feature users should use if they want that behaviour? What multi-doc interface application are we talking about? As a user, I see a text document in an editor, I see a text document for viewing and a spreadsheet, three different applications in three separate windows. Sure they share a lot of code and perhaps even the same process, but as a user I don't care about that, I only see three diffrent applications and I don't expect a Quit menu item to close the other two. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[framework-issues] [Issue 11884] Quit menu item is confu sing and unnecessary.
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=11884 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Sep 13 12:49:01 -0700 2005 --- I, for one, disagree. This menu command and the keyboard shortcuts to it, Ctrl-Q and Alt-F4, is a common one in multi-doc interface applications to close the entire application. A little less common is Alt-X. The common way to close one window or document is with Ctrl-W or Ctrl-F4. This is true in Windows as well as in Linux. It's really a case of re-training the user to use the correct command to close a window. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[framework-issues] [Issue 11884] Quit menu item is confu sing and unnecessary.
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=11884 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Sep 11 21:26:57 -0700 2005 --- I just pressed Ctrl-Q to close a document, and four other documents disappeared behind it. I simply cannot think up a single valid use case for the Quit menu option. And I *have* tried for a long time. So this comment is a little me-too that hopefully will draw attention to this issue, which has been ignored for over 2 years. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
