[framework-issues] [Issue 37020] multiple warnings about disabled Java appear when opening Macro Selector
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[framework-issues] [Issue 37020] multiple warnings about disabled Java appear when opening Macro Selector
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=37020 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri May 27 08:26:23 -0700 2005 --- In writer without a Java RTE I inadvertently clicked the Macro tab in picture properties. Then I clicked Background. I think I got to background before the Java message arrived - but now I am stuck in what seems like an interminable loop of repeating error messages. The only option is to kill the job and risk losing my work... This is not a good UI for the uninitiated. It's OK for me - I know OOo doesn't (usually) lose my work, it has a fantastic recovery system. And as a bug reporter I can find this information, and try for a bit longer to confirm that the loop is indeed finite, and after enough OKs it starts to behave properly. But we really should try to get this sorted out before the masses flock to see our genuinely superb version 2. Can't we disable the tab if it really does need Java, and there isn't one? - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[framework-issues] [Issue 37020] multiple warnings about disabled Java appear when opening Macro Selector
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=37020 User jl changed the following: What|Old value |New value Target milestone|OOo Later |OOo 2.0 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri May 20 04:43:51 -0700 2005 --- . - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[framework-issues] [Issue 37020] multiple warnings about disabled Java appear when opening Macro Selector
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=37020 User jl changed the following: What|Old value |New value Assigned to|cj|jl --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu May 19 03:43:14 -0700 2005 --- JL->CJ: We decided to build in some mechanism to reduce the number of error messages. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[framework-issues] [Issue 37020] multiple warnings about disabled Java appear when opening Macro Selector
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[framework-issues] [Issue 37020] multiple warnings about disabled Java appear when opening Macro Selector
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[framework-issues] [Issue 37020] multiple warnings about disabled Java appear when opening Macro Selector
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=37020 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon May 2 09:14:18 -0700 2005 --- EM->CJ: I had a related issue to come up with a solution based only on a string change (now marked as duplicate of this one). I spoke with Lutz about the situation and he is strongly against a semi-solution with a checkbox or additional text in the error message and says the only correct solution is a technical/code solution that prohibits the error messages from reappearing consecutively when no further user-interaction has occurred in between. I recommend that you NOT add more options to the UI to solve this issue (pushing the responsibility onto the user), but that you support the technical solution. I spoke with JL and he says a change in the code concept is necessary and not possible in the short term. Therefore, I'm leaving the target as Office Later, although the sooner the better. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[framework-issues] [Issue 37020] multiple warnings about disabled Java appear when opening Macro Selector
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=37020 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon May 2 08:48:53 -0700 2005 --- *** Issue 42604 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. *** - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[framework-issues] [Issue 37020] multiple warnings about disabled Java appear when opening Macro Selector
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=37020 User jl changed the following: What|Old value |New value CC|'ralphie' |'jl,ralphie' Assigned to|jl|cj --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Apr 26 07:52:17 -0700 2005 --- JL->CJ: At any rate we need a mechanism that tells the user that some functionality does not work because there is no Java or something may be wrong with it. This has nothing to do with the fact that one can switch off the use of Java in the options dialog. So I go back to what I stated early here: The warning message should have the "Do not warn me again" checkbox? Then there must also be away to switch warnings on again. The options dialog should offer a switch to enable that warning again. But that should not necessarily on the Java panel. Instead it should be more visible. We have to keep in mind that most people whould switch the dialog off, because they do not want to be bothered again and do not know nor care what Java is. CJ, could you take of this? - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[framework-issues] [Issue 37020] multiple warnings about disabled Java appear when opening Macro Selector
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=37020 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Apr 21 07:38:45 -0700 2005 --- Sorry, I wanted to add this was in snapshot 1.9.93 - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[framework-issues] [Issue 37020] multiple warnings about disabled Java appear when opening Macro Selector
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=37020 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Apr 21 07:36:34 -0700 2005 --- I saw this as well, it was 15 error messages before the macro dialogue itself would come up (I didn't try anything past that). My major concern had been it was a loop tha you could never escape, but at 15 errors, someone may give up too soon and force-quit the application (which I had done first time I encountered this). - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[framework-issues] [Issue 37020] multiple warnings about disabled Java appear when opening Macro Selector
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=37020 User mba changed the following: What|Old value |New value Target milestone|OOo 2.0 |OOo Later --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Mar 31 08:29:48 -0800 2005 --- . - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[framework-issues] [Issue 37020] multiple warnings about disabled Java appear when opening Macro Selector
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=37020 User mba changed the following: What|Old value |New value Assigned to|toconnor |jl Status|REOPENED |NEW --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Mar 31 08:11:10 -0800 2005 --- . - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[framework-issues] [Issue 37020] multiple warnings about disabled Java appear when opening Macro Selector
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=37020 User mba changed the following: What|Old value |New value Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|WONTFIX | --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Mar 31 08:10:33 -0800 2005 --- Jochen, this is something we should discuss. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[framework-issues] [Issue 37020] multiple warnings about disabled Java appear when opening Macro Selector
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=37020 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Feb 14 07:02:21 -0800 2005 --- > Additionally there appears to be the problem that the case where the user > chose > 'cancel' is not handled properly by the scripting framework. This should be > filed as another bug. The Scripting Framework does not know what button has been clicked, so there is no way for it to handle the Cancel button. In general the presence of both a No and a Cancel button seems confusing to me, I don't understand the difference. > I agree that a solution that addresses all these problems is not possible > in the > short run. The best solution that can be done quickly is to intercept the > JavaInteractionHandler in places where this kind of problem occurs. For the > macro case, the best solution would probably be to install a local, temporary > wrapper for the JavaInteractionHandler. That wrapper could forward the first > invocation (for a given kind of error) to the original handler and suppress > any subsequent ones. I agree, this is better than having the message popup so many times. If you or JL can provide a code snippet that shows how I should do this I can add it to the Scripting Framework code. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[framework-issues] [Issue 37020] multiple warnings about disabled Java appear when opening Macro Selector
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=37020 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Feb 14 06:24:42 -0800 2005 --- Some comments: I think that it is inappropriate to install an InteractionHandler globally into the main thread, which triggers every time, when there is an attempt to instantiate a Java component. [FYI: I work on the configuration component, which also supports an interaction handler for the case when it encounters invalid configuration data. But I assume that popping up a message box for any other error I encounter might be entirely inappropriate for the context this is invoked from. Thus, if such a message - and the full recovery functionality - is desired, the code that handles the user action is responsible for activating the handler (i.e. install it into the context). This is the opposite approach to the Java one] Looking at the error message "%PRODUCTNAME% requires [Java] to perform this task.", there are several mistakes due to incorrect assumptions here: 1. This message should never occur more than once for each user-initiated action. But in fact there are actions (e.g. macro-related actions) that attempt to instantiate several services, all of which may attempt to access Java. But these are not separate 'tasks' from the user's point of view. Accordingly the message assumes that it is clear from the context what functionality is lost due to the lack of Java. But in the macro case that is not at all clear. If the user chooses 'Macros - Run...', that means he wants to run any of the *available* macros, often one he created or recorded himself. In that case it is not at all true, that the desired task can't be performed. Only if a macro he expects requires one of the failing providers he is impacted. OTOH when working more actively with macros (or when trying to find out why one expected macro is not available in the list of macros to run), the user needs the information which macro providers are unavailable (whether this is caused by the lack of Java or not). 2. This message (and this way of handling them) assumes that each service that is being instantiated is necessary to perform the task the user requested. This is not necessarily true. If a certain service is missing its client might fall back on another solution or there might be a degradation in the functionality offered. In some cases the service that can't be instantiated may even be purely optional. The macro functionality is a case of degradation of functionality. As mentioned before that degradation may or may not have impact on the user. (Less for running macros, more for authoring/configuring). Additionally there appears to be the problem that the case where the user chose 'cancel' is not handled properly by the scripting framework. This should be filed as another bug. I agree that a solution that addresses all these problems is not possible in the short run. The best solution that can be done quickly is to intercept the JavaInteractionHandler in places where this kind of problem occurs. For the macro case, the best solution would probably be to install a local, temporary wrapper for the JavaInteractionHandler. That wrapper could forward the first invocation (for a given kind of error) to the original handler and suppress any subsequent ones. As a result the message would pop up at most once for each user action, which solves problem 1. Producing a more informative error message is or isn't handled by the scripting framework anyhow and can't be the task of the Java-specific handler. @jl: Even if this InteractionHandler is not a 'published' (i.e. stable) interface, it is an interface. It really should be possible to use this to address bugs. As long as the unstable status of the interface is clear, that should not be a problem. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[framework-issues] [Issue 37020] multiple warnings about disabled Java appear when opening Macro Selector
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=37020 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Feb 12 01:44:46 -0800 2005 --- I filed http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=42604 for the aspect of misleading dialog wording. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[framework-issues] [Issue 37020] multiple warnings about disabled Java appear when opening Macro Selector
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=37020 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Jan 28 04:16:57 -0800 2005 --- Hi Ralphie, You will need to reopen this issue and reassign it to cj if you want it to get further attention. I don't own the code that controls the display of the error message. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[framework-issues] [Issue 37020] multiple warnings about disabled Java appear when opening Macro Selector
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=37020 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Jan 28 04:10:43 -0800 2005 --- I think the current state is inacceptible, even if "without JRE" is not a Sun supported configuration. There is a very real chance of the user losing data (because he thinks he is in an infinite loop, and will only get out of the program by killing it). IMHO the minimum should be to add a sentence to the error dialog: "If this warning appears repeatedly, please klick OK util it disappears" If a computer program displays the same warning repeatedly, I think it is in a infinite loop and has crashed. The user (who can't even access online help any more) should be made aware of the fact that the program has not crashed and that there is still hope to save the document. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[framework-issues] [Issue 37020] multiple warnings about disabled Java appear when opening Macro Selector
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=37020 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Jan 28 03:15:15 -0800 2005 --- *** Issue 41511 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. *** - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
