[framework-issues] [Issue 87672] autocorrect limit. acor.da t with entry 65535: Loop and/or loss of acor d ata

2010-06-20 Thread tommy27
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--- Additional comments from tomm...@openoffice.org Sun Jun 20 10:10:55 
+ 2010 ---
@os

hi, I've heard that OOo 3.3 will enhance Calc allowing it to handle up to 2^20 
columns from the actual upper limit which is 2^16 (65536 columns)

2^16 is actually the same upper limit for autocorrect database entries.

do you think that Writer autocorrect database could be upgraded to 2^16 to 2^20 
as well as Calc?

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[framework-issues] [Issue 87672] autocorrect limit. acor.da t with entry 65535: Loop and/or loss of acor d ata

2010-01-21 Thread tommy27
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--- Additional comments from tomm...@openoffice.org Fri Jan 22 07:23:55 
+ 2010 ---
hi guys.
this morning while i was shaving i came out with this idea.

what about splitting each language acor.dat file, into subfiles according to 
first letter?

let me try to explain:

- actually the acor_en-US.dat contains a list of all spelling errors from A to 
Z and has an upper limit of 65535 entries

- would it be possible to do somenthing like:
acor_en-US_ABCD.dat   -- aople -- apple  
acor_en-US_EFGH.dat   -- eplehant -- elephant
acor_en-US.IJKL.dat   -- juce -- juice
.
.
acor_en-US_WXYZ.dat

that would split the database into smaller ones according to the first letter 
of the spelling error.

each one of this smaller database would still have the 65535 entry limit, but 
this would dramatically amplify the number of available autocorrect entries per 
language:  user could store 65K entries in the acor_en-US_ABCD.dat, another 65K 
entries in the acor_en-US_EFGH.dat  etc. etc.

morevoer the loading of the repalacement table would be easier and faster if 
OOo doesn't have to load all the entries from A to Z but only a limited set (A 
to D or E to H etc. etc.)

do you think that this workaround would be a feasible solution?




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[framework-issues] [Issue 87672] autocorrect limit. acor.da t with entry 65535: Loop and/or loss of acor d ata

2009-06-30 Thread shantanuo
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[framework-issues] [Issue 87672] autocorrect limit. acor.da t with entry 65535: Loop and/or loss of acor d ata

2009-05-07 Thread tommy27
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--- Additional comments from tomm...@openoffice.org Thu May  7 07:10:57 
+ 2009 ---
i'm curious about the status of this issue.

1- did you find a way to try to fix it?

2- what's the meaning of Status whiteboard RM-S4?

3- is there any chance to see the issue fixed Regolare ampiezza dei forami di 
coniugazione nervosa. OOo 3.1.1 or at least 3.2?

thank you

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[framework-issues] [Issue 87672] autocorrect limit. acor.da t with entry 65535: Loop and/or loss of acor d ata

2009-05-07 Thread os
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--- Additional comments from o...@openoffice.org Thu May  7 08:02:46 + 
2009 ---
1- did you find a way to try to fix it?
No, I didn't. This issue is not the one with the highest priority.
The way you are using this feature is not the common practice as your list is
more or less a mechanism to correct the spelling of lots of word with lots of
alternatives for each of it.
2- what's the meaning of Status whiteboard RM-S4?
mh added this status (now cc'ed)

3- is there any chance to see the issue fixed Regolare ampiezza dei forami di 
coniugazione nervosa. OOo 3.1.1 or at least 3.2?
Not a real chance. To extend the number of entries in the list is not that
complicated. But the user interface is not even capable to handle the current
possible number of entries. Opening the dialog with 64 K entries takes minutes
to fill the ListBox. 


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[framework-issues] [Issue 87672] autocorrect limit. acor.da t with entry 65535: Loop and/or loss of acor d ata

2009-05-07 Thread tommy27
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--- Additional comments from tomm...@openoffice.org Thu May  7 16:24:22 
+ 2009 ---
Thanks for feedback... however i respectfully diasgree with some of the things 
you said:

a- issue priority
maybe is not the highest, but it's still a P2 issue which is higher than many 
P3 and P4 issues i see round here.

b- the way i use autocorrect
well, i think my use of autocorrect is not that strange. 
The whole database is a list of the many typing errors i made in my daily work.

I write medical reports all the day and i have to write them fast... that's why 
i have collected so many mistakes and i entered in the replacement table to 
avoid future errors.

With my massive everyday use of Writer i saturated the OOo acor.dat file with 
65534 entries in 2 years.  You should expect that other users will reach that 
limit one day... maybe they will take longer than me but day after day they 
will get at that point.

I think the problem is that:

1- autocorrect entries number is limited

entries are not infinite unlike in MS Word (as far as i know - read previous 
posts) and this is a weak point of OOo.

2- reaching the limit causes data loss

as i reported, once you add entry number  65535 the acor.dat file crashes and 
all the database is permanently erased... this is really bad... 
i was lucky i had backupped it before so i did not loose my precious 
autocorrect databases... i would have been very pissed off if that ever happened

POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS

i think you should find a way to address at first the data loss issue and, if 
possible, also the entry limit issue.

Solution A: lock the acor.dat file once entry 65534 is added.

you should prevent users to add entry 65535 that causes the crash and data loss.
I remember that OOo user custom dictionaries had a 2000 words limit (that has 
been now set to 3), once you reached that limit and tried to add a new 
word, you were alerted with an error message telling you “dictionary is full”.

Solution B: let acor.dat file store more than 65K entries.
I know that would make OOo replacement table open very slowly (even 15 minutes 
with the actual 65K limit)

Solution C (which would be my favourite one and that i suggested in earlier 
posts): allow creation of additional acor.dat files 
once an acor.dat file is full, the user should be allowed to start a new 
replacement table database just like with dictionaries. Old autocorrection 
would still be active and new ones should be added to the brand new acor.dat 
file which woyld also load faster since it is almost empty.

Issue 101224 that i open few days ago could be a kind of workaround for this.

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[framework-issues] [Issue 87672] autocorrect limit. acor.da t with entry 65535: Loop and/or loss of acor d ata

2009-04-20 Thread tommy27
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--- Additional comments from tomm...@openoffice.org Mon Apr 20 14:18:10 
+ 2009 ---
in the meantime i reached 33960 entries in my acor.dat file

that means that it's half full now.

i also opened a new issue 101224 asking for the common replacement table for 
similar language groups as a new feature.

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[framework-issues] [Issue 87672] autocorrect limit. acor.da t with entry 65535: Loop and/or loss of acor d ata

2009-04-07 Thread mh
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[framework-issues] [Issue 87672] autocorrect limit. acor.da t with entry 65535: Loop and/or loss of acor d ata

2009-04-07 Thread tommy27
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--- Additional comments from tomm...@openoffice.org Tue Apr  7 19:10:33 
+ 2009 ---
excuse me, what's the meaning of Status whiteboard: RM-S4?

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[framework-issues] [Issue 87672] autocorrect limit. acor.da t with entry 65535: Loop and/or loss of acor d ata

2009-03-30 Thread tommy27
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--- Additional comments from tomm...@openoffice.org Mon Mar 30 13:36:38 
+ 2009 ---
new update... my count is now 31667 which means that almost 50% of my database 
is already full...

i was thinking that a workaround could be to enable sharing of autocorrect 
entries among “same language subgroups”...

OOo has indeed separate replacement tables for UK English, USA English, AUS 
English...
it has also “Italian (Italy)” and “Italian (Swiss)”...

however actually they are not mutual... if u enter an entry in the UK database 
it won't correct that mistake if you are writing in a US English document.

Do u think is possible to make them mutual or at least to create a new common 
replacement table for all of the “same language subgroups”?

something like: 

acor_it-ALL.dat   working both on italian and swiss language
acor_en-ALL.dat working on both UK, US, AUS etc. ect. English variants 
that would mean another  65535 entries available once the original acor_it-
IT.dat file will be completely full.

something like: 

acor_it-ALL.dat   working both on italian and swiss language
acor_en-ALL.dat working on both UK, US, AUS etc. ect. English variants 
that would mean another  65535 entries available once the original acor_it-
IT.dat file will be completely full.

i opened a topic on OOo Forum about it:

http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?
t=81211highlight=sid=af038b278131c0743dbca648347f05ec

hope somebody will have an idea about it.

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[framework-issues] [Issue 87672] autocorrect limit. acor.da t with entry 65535: Loop and/or loss of acor d ata

2009-02-26 Thread tommy27
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--- Additional comments from tomm...@openoffice.org Thu Feb 26 17:01:50 
+ 2009 ---
i counted again my autocorrect entries...

from june 2008 to february 2009 i collected another 26600 items...

with this pace i think i'll reach the 65535 limit at the end of 2009...

do you think that OOo 3.2 (which is planned for september 2009) is going to fix 
this issue?

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[framework-issues] [Issue 87672] autocorrect limit. acor.da t with entry 65535: Loop and/or loss of acor d ata

2009-01-22 Thread tommy27
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--- Additional comments from tomm...@openoffice.org Thu Jan 22 17:36:35 
+ 2009 ---
has any progress been done on this issue in the meantime?

i suggested it as a 3.1 blocker but u think it didn't make the cut before the 
code freeze.

what about 3.2? do you think there are chances to see it fixed for that release?

please, understand my question are only led by curiosity... i'm not complaining 
at all about not having fixed yet my issue.

i'm just wondering what kind of startegy are you thinking to use to prevent the 
data crash and overcome the 16-bit limitation

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[framework-issues] [Issue 87672] autocorrect limit. acor.da t with entry 65535: Loop and/or loss of acor d ata

2008-12-08 Thread tommy27
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Dec  8 22:30:48 + 
2008 ---
to os.

i respectfully ask you again to consider the handle more acor.dat files for  
each language solution.

i.e. acor_it-IT1.dat , acor_it-IT3.dat , acor_it-IT4.dat etc. etc.

there is people who is submitting their own autocorrect entries database as 
extensions. (i.e. http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/
AutocorrectRomanian ).

if you wanna use it you should overwrite your pre-existing 
acor_yourlanguage.dat file

handling more than one .dat file for each language (just like distionaries)
would have several advantages:

- no overwriting of pre-existing acor_yourlanguage.dat file allowing sharing 
of .dat files among users, just like dictionaries

- workarounding the 65535 limit (you should however prevent the data loss, and 
not let add more entries when it's full... just like the 2000 limit in 
dictionaries)

- faster loading of Ctrl+H replacement table (as i said with 65535 is terribly 
slow, allowing more entries in the same file would make it even slower. it 
would be much better to start with an empty and faster one once the first one 
is full, bloated and slow as a turtle)

these are just my 3 cents.
i'd like to know what you think about it.



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[framework-issues] [Issue 87672] autocorrect limit. acor.da t with entry 65535: Loop and/or loss of acor d ata

2008-11-01 Thread tommy27
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Nov  1 10:01:24 + 
2008 ---
@os

you said: data structures based on 16 bit data
are used. This naturally produces problems if there are more than 65535 entries
in the list.

i have a suggestion: OOo should be able to handle more than 1 acor.dat file for 
the same language.

actually if you saturate the acor_it-IT.dat you cannot enter more italian 
autocorrection. the only way to do it is to use the workaround method i told 
before using a universal acor_.dat for all languages.

however once you have saturated that file you are again at the starting point.

my suggestion is that OOo should be able to handle more acor.dat files for the 
same language.

i.e. acor_it-IT1.dat , acor_it-IT3.dat , acor_it-IT4.dat etc. etc.
each one can contain 65535 entries

this is just like with dictionaries in which you have a 2000 word limit. once 
you fill the first standard.dic you cannot enter new words inside it but you 
can start a standard2.dic or a standard3.dic.

autocorrect should work the same way.
once you reach the 65535 limit a warning should alert that the file is full 
(data loss crash should be prevented) and a new acor.dat file with proper 
language should be started.

do you think this is possible?




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[framework-issues] [Issue 87672] autocorrect limit. acor.da t with entry 65535: Loop and/or loss of acor d ata

2008-11-01 Thread os
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Nov  1 10:45:13 + 
2008 ---
-tommy27: We should fix it. Integrating a workaround takes the same amount of
work as fixing it. 
The difference to dictionaries is that there the size has direct influence on
the performance as the spell checking searches in these dictionaries while
spelling. The auto correction file is only checked at the time you write a new
word. So in this case size doesn't matter that much.


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[framework-issues] [Issue 87672] autocorrect limit. acor.da t with entry 65535: Loop and/or loss of acor d ata

2008-11-01 Thread tommy27
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Nov  1 11:11:18 + 
2008 ---
i understand, however i noticed the the performance of manual insertion of 
corrections in the autocorrect replacement table with  the ctrl + h hotkey is 
affected by the acod.dat file size.

if you have few entries in it the replacement table opens in a few seconds but 
the more entries you put inside it the opening becomes slower and slower.

with my previous acor.dat file it took 15 minutes to access the replacement 
table after clicking ctrl+h. that was due to its enornous amount of entries.

i was thinkg that using more acor.dat files as i suggested could solve also 
this issue.

if you indeed remove the 65353 limit, having more entries in a single acor.dat 
file  (i.e. 75000, 9. etc) will make the process even slower.

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[framework-issues] [Issue 87672] autocorrect limit. acor.da t with entry 65535: Loop and/or loss of acor d ata

2008-10-28 Thread os
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What|Old value |New value

   Component|Word processor|framework

  Status|NEW   |STARTED

  OS/Version|Windows XP|All

  QA contact|[EMAIL PROTECTED] |[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Platform|PC|All

 Summary|autocorrect limit. acor.da|autocorrect limit. acor.da
|t with entry 65214: Loop a|t with entry 65535: Loop a
|nd/or loss of acor data   |nd/or loss of acor data

Subcomponent|editing   |code





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Oct 28 11:56:44 + 
2008 ---
The reason of the problem is the fact that data structures based on 16 bit data
are used. This naturally produces problems if there are more than 65535 entries
in the list. 
Subject changed (no is 65535) component changed to framework, platform+os
changed to All

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[framework-issues] [Issue 87672] autocorrect limit. acor.da t with entry 65535: Loop and/or loss of acor d ata

2008-10-28 Thread tommy27
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Oct 28 13:38:30 + 
2008 ---
65535 ?

my OOo crashed with entry number 65214 but i suppose the method i used to 
calculate the autocorrect entries number (see my first post) was not 100% 
accurate.

anyway, now i hope there will be a wat to solve this.
with time other people will saturate their acor.dat files and loss of data 
would 
be very annoying

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