[framework-issues] [Issue 98680] help indexing on install o f extensions considered harmful

2010-10-11 Thread dnaber
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--- Additional comments from dna...@openoffice.org Mon Oct 11 19:41:54 
+ 2010 ---
On Fedora 11, the proper workaround seems to be to install the package
lucene-contrib.

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[framework-issues] [Issue 98680] help indexing on install o f extensions considered harmful

2010-01-05 Thread axxl
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[framework-issues] [Issue 98680] help indexing on install o f extensions considered harmful

2009-06-03 Thread kla
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  Status|VERIFIED  |CLOSED





--- Additional comments from k...@openoffice.org Wed Jun  3 12:58:34 + 
2009 ---
seen ok in current master - closed

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[framework-issues] [Issue 98680] help indexing on install o f extensions considered harmful

2009-05-12 Thread kla
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--- Additional comments from k...@openoffice.org Tue May 12 07:48:19 + 
2009 ---
verified

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[framework-issues] [Issue 98680] help indexing on install o f extensions considered harmful

2009-03-26 Thread ab
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  Status|STARTED   |RESOLVED

  Resolution|  |FIXED





--- Additional comments from a...@openoffice.org Thu Mar 26 14:19:49 + 
2009 ---
- Output to stdout removed for extension mode
- Lucene index now will be created at runtime if creation at deploy time failed
FIXED


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[framework-issues] [Issue 98680] help indexing on install o f extensions considered harmful

2009-03-26 Thread ab
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--- Additional comments from a...@openoffice.org Thu Mar 26 14:30:16 + 
2009 ---
ab-kla: Please verify


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[framework-issues] [Issue 98680] help indexing on install o f extensions considered harmful

2009-02-25 Thread ab
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--- Additional comments from a...@openoffice.org Wed Feb 25 14:30:16 + 
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STARTED


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[framework-issues] [Issue 98680] help indexing on install o f extensions considered harmful

2009-02-17 Thread ab
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  CC|'jl,mav'  |'ab,jl,mav'

 Assigned to|ab|mh

  Status|STARTED   |NEW

Target milestone|---   |OOo 3.1





--- Additional comments from a...@openoffice.org Tue Feb 17 14:31:13 + 
2009 ---
ab-mh: Set to OOo 3.1 for now. Please decide if this
is a showstopper and set it back to me afterwards.


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[framework-issues] [Issue 98680] help indexing on install o f extensions considered harmful

2009-02-17 Thread mh
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   Status whiteboard|  |RM-S2

Target milestone|OOo 3.1   |OOo 3.2





--- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Tue Feb 17 20:43:29 + 
2009 ---
yes, I also consider this issue harmful. we should avoid those dependencies
where ever we can.  But I don't consider this as a stopper for 3.1 release since
full declaration of dependencies solves the issue.
I would like to see this issue on agenda for ESC 2009-03-10 to decide on how to
deal with this issue.

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[framework-issues] [Issue 98680] help indexing on install o f extensions considered harmful

2009-02-10 Thread mh
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--- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Tue Feb 10 11:23:08 + 
2009 ---
@rene: what is the reason for not having the dependency to lucene defined for
full functional help ?

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[framework-issues] [Issue 98680] help indexing on install o f extensions considered harmful

2009-02-10 Thread rene
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--- Additional comments from r...@openoffice.org Tue Feb 10 15:54:18 + 
2009 ---
mh:

various points:

1. see http://packages.debian.org/sid/liblucene2-java for a complete lucene2 
   and its dependencies. You really want to force all kinds of people who just
   want help but don't want/need to search in it to force this +
   openoffice.org-  java-common + a JRE?

   The openoffice.org dummy package does depend on liblucene2-java, so people
   who apt-get install openoffice.org *do* get lucene. I just do not want to
   have it as strict dependency on -help-* (I recommend it thoug - see  
   http://packages.debian.org/experimental/openoffice.org-help-de  - and on  
   default installs recommends are treated like depends)

2. For wiki-publisher the situation is a bit different; it depends on Java stuff
   anyway. But the point of 1. still applies. Why should you need to force
   liblucene2-java and its deps on people who don't need it? Especially as
   the person wants to install the extension, not necessarily the help :)



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[framework-issues] [Issue 98680] help indexing on install o f extensions considered harmful

2009-02-03 Thread ab
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--- Additional comments from a...@openoffice.org Tue Feb  3 15:50:36 + 
2009 ---
ab-rene: Obviously I missed to block some of the outputs
for the extension mode. Developing in Windows is not help-
ful here as you never see stdout. :-( Anyway, easy to fix.

Next point: I see your problem, a system without Lucene
still should be able to install extensions containing help.

Pre-indexing is not so nice as it makes search support for
extension help much more difficult for extension developers.
Now they don't have to care at all, otherwise they would
have to deal with the OOo build environment, makefiles etc.
On the other hand I don't see the benefit of pre-indexing,
as at runtime the search would fail anyway without Lucene.

So what do you think about silently ignoring a No-Lucene
situation when deploying an extension. A little bit hacky,
but I think acceptable as this does not hide errors in the
help content itself. The situation afterwards would be the
same as for the Office in general: Extension works and has
help, but help cannot be searched.

What do you think concerning the target? Do you consider 
this to be a 3.1 showstopper? The fix should be easy, but
we would have to discuss this with mh.


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[framework-issues] [Issue 98680] help indexing on install o f extensions considered harmful

2009-02-03 Thread rene
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--- Additional comments from r...@openoffice.org Tue Feb  3 17:05:04 + 
2009 ---
 ab-rene: Obviously I missed to block some of the outputs
 for the extension mode. Developing in Windows is not help-
 ful here as you never see stdout. :-( Anyway, easy to fix.

Yes, use Linux ;-)

 Pre-indexing is not so nice as it makes search support for
 extension help much more difficult for extension developers.
 Now they don't have to care at all, otherwise they would
 have to deal with the OOo build environment, makefiles etc.

I don't really think we should deal easiness for development with
a technical better solution, but...

 On the other hand I don't see the benefit of pre-indexing,
 as at runtime the search would fail anyway without Lucene.

Correct, but if they have lucene2 installed (I *do* have lucene, just
not depended on by -help-* or -wiki-publisher but the openoffice.org
metapackage, and anyone can install it. When it's installed search
works because it's pre-indexed and just the missing piece was lucene)

 So what do you think about silently ignoring a No-Lucene
 situation when deploying an extension. A little bit hacky,
 but I think acceptable as this does not hide errors in the
 help content itself. The situation afterwards would be the
 same as for the Office in general: Extension works and has
 help, but help cannot be searched.

As I said above, the situation would be different. For the office, the
searching just will work if you install liblucene2-java. For the extension
case it won't - unless you deregister/register the extension again
(means: re-install/install the package)

 What do you think concerning the target? Do you consider 
 this to be a 3.1 showstopper? The fix should be easy, but
 we would have to discuss this with mh.

Yes, I do. :)

Regards,

Rene

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[framework-issues] [Issue 98680] help indexing on install o f extensions considered harmful

2009-01-31 Thread rene
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 Issue #|98680
 Summary|help indexing on install of extensions considered harm
|ful
   Component|framework
 Version|DEV300m39
Platform|All
 URL|
  OS/Version|All
  Status|NEW
   Status whiteboard|
Keywords|
  Resolution|
  Issue type|DEFECT
Priority|P2
Subcomponent|code
 Assigned to|ab
 Reported by|rene





--- Additional comments from r...@openoffice.org Sat Jan 31 12:17:56 + 
2009 ---
[ seen in m40, but the dropdown doesn't have it yet ]

Hi,

In my packaging, I use system-lucene, like any other library where this is
possible. Only the openoffice.org metspackage depends on it, the help-*
packages only recommend it. Rationale for this is that I don't want to force
everyone to install it + its dependencies (see
http://packages.debian.org/sid/liblucene2-java).

Since the indexing of the normal help is done *on the build* not having
liblucene2-java (and thus lucene.jar) present disables the searching in the 
help.

Now, I updated my packges to m40 and tried to install the wiki publisher
extension
$ sudo dpkg -i 
openoffice.org-wiki-publisher_1.0+OOo3.1.0~dev300m40-0.1pre_all.deb 
(Lese Datenbank ... 261578 Dateien und Verzeichnisse sind derzeit installiert.)
Vorbereiten zum Ersetzen von openoffice.org-wiki-publisher
1.0+OOo3.1.0~dev300m40-0.1pre (durch
openoffice.org-wiki-publisher_1.0+OOo3.1.0~dev300m40-0.1pre_all.deb) ...
Removing extension com.sun.wiki-publisher... done.
Entpacke Ersatz für openoffice.org-wiki-publisher ...
Richte openoffice.org-wiki-publisher ein (1.0+OOo3.1.0~dev300m40-0.1pre) ...
Adding extension
/usr/lib/openoffice/share/extension/install/wiki-publisher.oxtLucene:
Indexing to directory
'/var/spool/openoffice/uno_packages/cache/uno_packages/nXlE9g_/wiki-publisher.oxt/help/mn/help.idxl'...
Indexing, adding files
.
Optimizing ...
369 total milliseconds
[...]
 done.

Besides that it clobbers the output of unopkg add(!), this is harmful, because:
let's look now what happens without lucene:

$ sudo dpkg -i 
openoffice.org-wiki-publisher_1.0+OOo3.1.0~dev300m40-0.1pre_all.deb 
Wähle vormals abgewähltes Paket openoffice.org-wiki-publisher.
(Lese Datenbank ... 261503 Dateien und Verzeichnisse sind derzeit installiert.)
Entpacke openoffice.org-wiki-publisher (aus
openoffice.org-wiki-publisher_1.0+OOo3.1.0~dev300m40-0.1pre_all.deb) ...
Richte openoffice.org-wiki-publisher ein (1.0+OOo3.1.0~dev300m40-0.1pre) ...
Adding extension
/usr/lib/openoffice/share/extension/install/wiki-publisher.oxt...An error
occurred while enabling: help
 done.

I don't want to make -wiki-publisher depend on lucene...

Can't the help of the wiki publisher (or any extension later) be pre-indexed in
the build like the normal help? And unopkg doing no business with it
So that the install would not break without lucene2?

Regards,

Rene

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