[graphics-issues] [Issue 72331] Wrong error indicator for standard deviation

2007-09-21 Thread iha
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  Ever confirmed|  |1

  Status|UNCONFIRMED   |NEW

Target milestone|---   |OOo 2.4





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confirmed, changed target

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[graphics-issues] [Issue 72331] Wrong error indicator for standard deviation

2007-04-24 Thread discoleo
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Confidence Interval
|  | vs Error Bars






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Created an attachment (id=44652)
Confidence Interval vs Error Bars


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[graphics-issues] [Issue 72331] Wrong error indicator for standard deviation

2007-04-24 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Apr 24 19:41:02 + 
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> In statistics, there is no use to display only one set of values.
> The point is to compare several sets of data to visualize
> the distribution graphically.

Usually, we want to create some confidence interval (CI). The 95% CI is the most
useful one. So creating 2 horizontal lines that delimit the 95% CI is the better
approach.

Of course, we could add a parameter to specify the size of the CI. Selecting 68%
will generate the (-1 SD; +1 SD) interval that is so accustomed in the
literature (the "error bars"), though dedicated statistician rarely use it.

The http://addictedtor.free.fr/graphiques/RGraphGallery.php?graph=65 graphics
display a very complex confidence interval. Of course, in our example, the lines
delimiting the 95% CI would be horizontal (differing from the very complex lines
in the previous graph).

AND, because there are really lines drawn that look like grid lines, you could
more easyly compare the distribution of the individual values. See my attached
graphic. That's how I imagine it.

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[graphics-issues] [Issue 72331] Wrong error indicator for standard deviation

2007-04-24 Thread hagar_de_lest
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Apr 24 13:47:29 + 
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In statistics, there is no use to display only one set of values. The point is
to compare several sets of data to visualize the distribution graphically.

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[graphics-issues] [Issue 72331] Wrong error indicator for standard deviation

2007-04-24 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Apr 24 13:37:05 + 
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In my opinion, both OOo and Excel perform a poor job here.

Of course, in the given example, Excel is slightly better, BUT I would
personally prefer the following method:
 - IF all the data points of ONLY one group of data are displayed
   (i.e. there is only one mean and one SD)
 - then allow user to select the confidence interval he wants
   e.g. CI95% (+/- 2 SD), (or 68% aka +/- 1 SD)
 - and draw the corresponding horizontal lines

[Confidence intervals could be calculated using more robust methods, like
bootstrapping sometime in the future.]

This would look something like:
http://addictedtor.free.fr/graphiques/RGraphGallery.php?graph=65 (well, NOT
quite; it would look much more simple, with only 2 horizontal lines and a number
of bars).

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[graphics-issues] [Issue 72331] Wrong error indicator for standard deviation

2007-03-21 Thread rainerbielefeld
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Mar 21 15:24:42 + 
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No idea for what the current error bar design could be useful. I believe it
should show whether a "measured value" is within the standard deviation
(referring to the  arithmetic mean) or outside, and that's only possible with
the EXCEL-like design as it is shown in "Standard_Deviation.ods". But I am not
an expert.

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[graphics-issues] [Issue 72331] Wrong error indicator for standard deviation

2006-12-23 Thread tonygalmiche
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[graphics-issues] [Issue 72331] Wrong error indicator for standard deviation

2006-12-08 Thread kla
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 Assigned to|kla   |iha





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Dec  8 05:36:05 -0800 
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@IHA: Maybe an RFE? Same in new chart.

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[graphics-issues] [Issue 72331] Wrong error indicator for standard deviation

2006-12-06 Thread hagar_de_lest
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 Attachment data|  |Created an attachment (id=
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Comparison between 
|  |OOo and Excel chart






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Created an attachment (id=41173)
Comparison between OOo and Excel chart


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[graphics-issues] [Issue 72331] Wrong error indicator for standard deviation

2006-12-06 Thread hagar_de_lest
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 Issue #|72331
 Summary|Wrong error indicator for standard deviation
   Component|Chart
 Version|OOo 2.0.4
Platform|All
 URL|
  OS/Version|All
  Status|UNCONFIRMED
   Status whiteboard|
Keywords|
  Resolution|
  Issue type|DEFECT
Priority|P3
Subcomponent|formatting
 Assigned to|kla
 Reported by|hagar_de_lest





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Dec  6 10:01:45 -0800 
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When user wants to display the error indicator on a chart (Statistics tab) with
the Standard deviation, the error indicator is centered on each value, it should
be centered on the
mean value only.

See attachment. MS Excel chart is fine, OOo chart is wrong.

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