[gsl-issues] [Issue 84553] UI in Arabic interface of OOo not RTL

2008-01-18 Thread djihed
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Jan 18 10:43:03 + 
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@hdu : I will study what OOo does and present a complete bug report some time. 

Apparently, the issue is not just in writer, it's in the whole interface: Even
text on the installation dialogue is badly directed: I don't know the
architecture of OOo, so I don't know what element in the stack renders text in
user interfaces. Is it the same as Writer's?

The thing is, there are two issues at play: the direction algorithm (What you
called auto-discoverable writing) and the class of a character (Strong RTL, Weak
RTL, neutral, etc).

See this for more:

http://www.unicode.org/unicode/reports/tr9/

Sorry for the repetitive attempts to clear this up, I've just stumbled into this
and discovered that OOo's issues with RTL are deeper than I thought, while I am
still very unfamiliar with OOo and its code.

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[gsl-issues] [Issue 84553] UI in Arabic interface of OOo not RTL

2008-01-18 Thread hdu
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Jan 18 10:05:12 + 
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@djihed: if it is a bug that OOo does not use the auto-discoverable writing 
direction for the paragraph in 
Writer then please submit a followup bug to OOo's SW project.

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[gsl-issues] [Issue 84553] UI in Arabic interface of OOo not RTL

2008-01-18 Thread djihed
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Jan 18 09:47:05 + 
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Yes, so that's a bug in how OpenOffice handles neutral characters.

In brief: Arabic characters + neutral characters = the whole thing should be
displayed RTL. That is if they stand on their own and they are not polluted by
other latin characters.

Otherwise it is a bug, you shouldn't need RLE or RLM.

To illustrate this, try opening gedit and putting the same sequence ( لا...)
alone on a new line.

You will see the correct behaviour.

I don't follow OOo closely otherwise I would have discovered this, but indeed, I
think OOo does need some serious testing from us RTL'ers.

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[gsl-issues] [Issue 84553] UI in Arabic interface of OOo not RTL

2008-01-18 Thread hdu
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[gsl-issues] [Issue 84553] UI in Arabic interface of OOo not RTL

2008-01-18 Thread hdu
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Jan 18 08:49:02 + 
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To illustrate my point about using RLE markers wisely please
1. load the sample document above
2. select all the text (e.g. with CTRL-A)
3. toogle the paragraph direction from left-to-right to right-to-left back and 
forth
=>
the lines with the embedding markers remain stable, the one without changes


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[gsl-issues] [Issue 84553] UI in Arabic interface of OOo not RTL

2008-01-18 Thread hdu
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Jan 18 08:38:55 + 
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Created an attachment (id=50959)
sample with RLE/LRE markers


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[gsl-issues] [Issue 84553] UI in Arabic interface of OOo not RTL

2008-01-17 Thread djihed
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jan 17 18:08:37 + 
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@ hdu

Punctuation is direction neutral, so menu entries with that shouldn't need LRE
or LRM.

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[gsl-issues] [Issue 84553] UI in Arabic interface of OOo not RTL

2008-01-16 Thread sba
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  Status|RESOLVED  |VERIFIED





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Jan 16 14:59:11 + 
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SBA: Verifed in CWS vcl85.

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[gsl-issues] [Issue 84553] UI in Arabic interface of OOo not RTL

2008-01-14 Thread hdu
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jan 14 11:10:16 + 
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@sba: please verify in CWS vcl85

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[gsl-issues] [Issue 84553] UI in Arabic interface of OOo not RTL

2008-01-11 Thread hdu
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Jan 11 15:43:49 + 
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It would be better though if the translated strings were consistent regarding 
their BiDi behaviour in weak 
RTL and LTR contexts, so we could avoid this fragile balancing act.

To illustrate what I mean by this copy one of the problematic translation 
strings into Writer. Then toggle 
the paragraph's left-to-right and right-to-left preference. If the string's 
BiDi layout is influenced by the 
toggle and one of the resulting BiDi arrangements are not sufficient, then the 
translated string should be 
extended with RLE or LRE unicode markers.

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[gsl-issues] [Issue 84553] UI in Arabic interface of OOo not RTL

2008-01-07 Thread hdu
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  Status|NEW   |RESOLVED

  Resolution|  |FIXED





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jan  7 16:01:42 + 
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Fixed in CWS vcl85. The BiDi preference has been tipped to RTL for these 
situations.

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[gsl-issues] [Issue 84553] UI in Arabic interface of OOo not RTL

2007-12-18 Thread mh
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Priority|P3|P2





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Dec 18 11:22:13 + 
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set Prio to 2

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[gsl-issues] [Issue 84553] UI in Arabic interface of OOo not RTL

2007-12-18 Thread mh
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What|Old value |New value

  Ever confirmed|  |1

  Status|UNCONFIRMED   |NEW





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Dec 18 11:21:43 + 
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confirm issue.

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[gsl-issues] [Issue 84553] UI in Arabic interface of OOo not RTL

2007-12-14 Thread ja
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User ja changed the following:

What|Old value |New value

 Assigned to|ja|hdu

   Component|l10n  |gsl

Priority|P1|P3

  QA contact|[EMAIL PROTECTED]   |[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subcomponent|ui|code

Target milestone|OOo 2.3.1 |OOo 2.4





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Dec 14 14:30:19 + 
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Version 2.3.1 has already been released. Code changes are only possible for the
upcoming version.

ja->hdu: Could you please fix that in 2.4.0 ?

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