[installation-issues] [Issue 44102] Where are the install fil es? RPMs are useless
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=44102 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Mar 27 10:10:09 -0800 2006 --- Even if you guys could include an install.sh file (e.g. similar to opera's install.sh) that asks for install options and install prefix directory then it would be an immense improvement. This would help people who want to install in non-standard shared directories (even if all the client systems support rpm). http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?p=136552#136552 - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[installation-issues] [Issue 44102] Where are the install fil es? RPMs are useless
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=44102 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Feb 13 03:04:24 -0800 2006 --- Is there any reason why a tarball could not be created as well as the RPM's and made available on the download servers? I wish to install as non-root, I've found workaround instructions now (refer to http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=26173&highlight=linux+install, also on this page) but an official installation tarball would be a lot simpler and cleaner. I feel this issue should be priority 4, it crops up everywhere - linux magazines, forums, everyone seems so heated about it - I like RPM's but opensource is partly about having a choice. Also: http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=17814 shows a popularity poll on the installers - Most people seem to agree that having both the tarball and the RPM installers would satisfy everyone. I hope this is taken as a sensible request, and not a flame of any kind. Thanks, Sean - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[installation-issues] [Issue 44102] Where are the install fil es? RPMs are useless
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=44102 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Feb 7 18:52:26 -0800 2006 --- I have Mandriva Linux so rpm is the method usually employed but not everyone has root privileges or a system suited to rpms so I believe a universally acceptable method should be used. I also see many posts from people who want to alter the way OO is installed. With alterable setup files, that is possible. One thing I preferred about the old method is that you could run setup after installation and choose a repair option. Another thing is that it gave you an easy way of choosing what parts of the system you install. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[installation-issues] [Issue 44102] Where are the install fil es? RPMs are useless
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=44102 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Feb 7 18:53:22 -0800 2006 --- I have Mandriva Linux so rpm is the method usually employed but not everyone has root privileges or a system suited to rpms so I believe a universally acceptable method should be used. I also see many posts from people who want to alter the way OO is installed. With alterable setup files, that is possible. One thing I preferred about the old method is that you could run setup after installation and choose a repair option. Another thing is that it gave you an easy way of choosing what parts of the system you install. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[installation-issues] [Issue 44102] Where are the install fil es? RPMs are useless
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=44102 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Feb 7 07:29:42 -0800 2006 --- Yes, where is the OOo installer for Linux? I even have to use OpenOffice.org, allthough I have a StarOffice 8 license... because StarOffice's own installer didnt work on Ubuntu, a huge debian based distrubution, so I had to go through the conversion of RPM files to debian files, and install them from the command line. That didnt even work for the StarOffice RPM's... WTH? Is this really how you want to spread OOo/StarOffice, dear developers and planners? Going away from a GUI installer to this pre-1980 command line circus? Even on StarOffice? I know that the majority of the audience is on the Windows platform, but since you did have an installer, this switch to a RPM circus is really like saying "Goodbye casual users, we are now targeting system administrators and nerds". A competent and robust installer for Linux is simply mandatory, none of your excuses will do the casual user any good, and the number of casual Linux users is growing. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[installation-issues] [Issue 44102] Where are the install fil es? RPMs are useless
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=44102 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Oct 26 09:24:12 -0700 2005 --- "The package tar.gz work with any Linux. TAR.GZ is compatible with ALL, include Debian and RH!" Just RPM and DEB is horrible! - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[installation-issues] [Issue 44102] Where are the install fil es? RPMs are useless
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=44102 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Oct 26 08:26:12 -0700 2005 --- I use Conectiva Linux (with native suport a RPM) but why remove a old package .tar.gz?? This package (tar.gz) "working" with ANY Linux and is easier than ANY users! Why RPM? Why DEB? TAR.GZ is compatible with ALL, include Debian and RH! - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[installation-issues] [Issue 44102] Where are the install fil es? RPMs are useless
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=44102 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Oct 26 08:21:25 -0700 2005 --- I use Conectiva Linux (with native suport a RPM) but why remove a old package .tar.gz?? This package (tar.gz) "working" with ANY Linux and is easier than ANY users! Why RPM? Why DEB? TAR.GZ is compatible with ALL, include Debian and RH! - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[installation-issues] [Issue 44102] Where are the install fil es? RPMs are useless
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=44102 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Oct 26 07:42:48 -0700 2005 --- The old installation method is more usefull than RPMs and work in any linux flavors. Why RPMs ? - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[installation-issues] [Issue 44102] Where are the install fil es? RPMs are useless
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=44102 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Oct 26 05:54:47 -0700 2005 --- I know it's a decision of the project to use the native installers for OOo 2.0 in all operating systems, but a lot of users are requesting it. Some users don't have rpm or rpm2tgz and they don't want to install it in their computers, although you can argument rpm is part of the linux standard base. Wouldn't be hard to find people to QA it and it would make a lot of users happy. rpm2tgz is not an easy workaround to everyone because some users refuse to use it, they prefer don't to install OOo. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[installation-issues] [Issue 44102] Where are the install fil es? RPMs are useless
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=44102 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Oct 19 13:51:37 -0700 2005 --- GNU/Linux is about standards. RPM is NOT a standard. Using RPMS might be justified if you were using them for anything other than a glorified tar. Wores yet, a tar that has to be told to ignore all it's error checking to get the OO installed. Sure most distros have an "rpm" mode, but since they are not the native installer they know nothing of the few dependencies that your RPMs are looking for. Folks change distros every few years, OO 2.0 is such a great product I need to deploy it much quicker than that. I can not wait for every laptop to be upgraded to the newest distro to get OO. I need it as soon as it is released, all over. Why is wrapping a few tar files in a shell script so hard? It is portable, it is standards compliant, it is easy to modify for special needs. RPMs are none of that. Simple scripts work for XFree, Xorg, Nvidia and many other universal binaries. Why this insistence on such a bizarre thing as RPMs? Where is the benefit? - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[installation-issues] [Issue 44102] Where are the install fil es? RPMs are useless
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=44102 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Oct 18 19:29:15 -0700 2005 --- *** Issue 56124 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. *** - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[installation-issues] [Issue 44102] Where are the install fil es? RPMs are useless
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=44102 User cloph changed the following: What|Old value |New value Keywords| |oooqa --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Oct 18 14:00:08 -0700 2005 --- jojoax: No piece of software is perfect - neither is alien. It is a known bug of alien <= 8.50 to not convert all rpms correctly. OOo-folks provided a patch that was integrated in 8.51. So use alien 8.51 or newer and it should work. Yes, I really write that debian ships packages with bugs. Even when they are marked as "stable". And that alien fails is not a OOo-Problem. It is an alien problem. For everything else, this simple one-liner will extract all the files from the rpms. Just move the tree to a location of your liking. for i in *.rpm ; do rpm2cpio $i |cpio -id ; done To all: And better inform yourself before writting such lame flames. There *is* a binary version of rpm in tar.gz. You don't need to bootstrap rpm, You don't even need to install rpm. You don't have to actually use rpm. ftp://ftp.rpm.org/pub/rpm/dist/rpm-4.1.x/rpm-4.1.i386.tar.gz And what is that "my systems are running since 5 to 10 years argument"? You should have gathered enough experience in those years to repackage software bundled as RPM. Either bypass rpm's dependancies (OOo has no external dependancies expect basically glibc, sh and other basic stuff without you box wouldn't run anyway) or convert it to another format. OOo's rpms are relocatable. Enough people have had prolems with the old installer. Enough to never bring it back. Furthermore: Virtually every distro out there has OOo in its repository. SuSE, RedHat, Mandriva, Debian, Ubuntu, Gentoo, ... If you fail to install the ones from OOo - just use the ones from your distro. I suggest closing wontfix. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[installation-issues] [Issue 44102] Where are the install fil es? RPMs are useless
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=44102 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Oct 18 01:17:57 -0700 2005 --- This is discrimination made by OpenSource ! Converting the RPMs does not work. iE. alien -d produces junk, there are execute permissions missing in the produced packages. So this ISSUE is P1 - critical ! - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[installation-issues] [Issue 44102] Where are the install fil es? RPMs are useless
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=44102 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Oct 17 13:54:33 -0700 2005 --- *** Issue 56124 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. *** - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]