[installation-issues] [Issue 52695] let user decide whether n ew installation updates older one
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=52695 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Mar 13 14:06:50 -0800 2006 --- Hello, in comment to the text of Marko from March 2nd: Yes, I think it's a good way that the standard behaviour of OOo's setup (at least under Windows) updates a previous installation after automatically deinstalling it. That's a lot more comfortable than older versions of Mozilla Co., where it was recommended to manually uninstall them before updating - not to mention a manual backup of plugins... So, fine! Additionally, I would greatly like to have a simple (?) thing: The information that the old version *is* updated during the installation process! I just have installed 2.0.2, replacing 2.0.1. There was some short message about searching related applications (verwandte Anwendungen in German), but nothing else meaning anything to me. During the Complete-Setup-option, I didn't get any hint that the old version would be replaced. Neither did I see the installation directory. If I wouldn't have been told before, I only could have guessed what would happen during installation of 2.0.2. I completely agree that many user don't want to bother with details and should be spared from the complicated details. But I would feel a little umcomfortable *not* knowing what the setup will do. Okay, there's the documentation, that's a good thing. Nevertheless: How many typical users will read them *before* double-clicking on the .exe-file? So, concluding: What I really would like to have is to be shown a small information text saying The previous version of OpenOffice.org will be updated. You don't need to say replaced - that indeed may cause concerns of losing something... ;-) What do you think? Bye Dirk - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[installation-issues] [Issue 52695] let user decide whether n ew installation updates older one
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=52695 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Mar 5 05:14:10 -0800 2006 --- Mr wong, I think you will find that this issue is more or less closed from the perspective of the documentation project, in that the setup guide already has the procedure included and is up for review. Please see http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=37513 for the finished copy. A good review is important. For the RFE, we of the doc project must leave it for the developers to resolve in a suitable manner. Thanks for your interest. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[installation-issues] [Issue 52695] let user decide whether n ew installation updates older one
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=52695 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Mar 4 22:18:35 -0800 2006 --- Hi all, I'm a new contributor and G.R Singleton suggested I help out with this issue. From my understanding the steps given here to allow newer releases to be installed without replacing the older release need to be added the setup guide. 1. I'll add the steps and any pictures needed to the setupguide source files. 2. Attach the files to this issue for everyone to review. 3. Then revise it with the recommendations. If any of this sounds wrong please point me in the right direction. Chris Hoang - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[installation-issues] [Issue 52695] let user decide whether n ew installation updates older one
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=52695 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Mar 3 00:27:21 -0800 2006 --- Hi Jean, Roderick, I have tested the solution discribed by Roderick and it works fine for me on WinXP and Win200 too. We should change the setupguide like Roderick suggested. @Jean: I dont have any problems if someone wants to install RC/Snapshots at the same time and machine :-) But I had a problem with the suggested change of the setup-procedure. Thats why I think the described way with setup /a ist the best solution because no change of the setup in needed and the 'secure' way for the default installation an the possibility to install RC/Snapshots by testers and developers exist in peace side by side :-) BTW: If someone is interessted in, I will write a short guide how to use virtual machines for testing/QA. Regards Marko - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[installation-issues] [Issue 52695] let user decide whether n ew installation updates older one
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=52695 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Mar 2 00:04:15 -0800 2006 --- Hello @all, we had some comments to this on the German users an dev lists. Most of them said that the current way (old version is deleted automatic by setup) is the biggest goal of the new setup! You ask why? A 'nomal' (WIN-)user (means no developer or tester) wants a small an easy way for setup and espect, that an older version on the system will updated (or in this case will be deleted). Every question more in the setup will get the user more confusing. What will happen? The user gets the question 'Existing older version found, will You delete it or not?' (or something like that). User think: 'Dont know what to do, perhaps it is better to keep the old version on the disc...' ... and the problems increase higher an higher: * Most Windows user open docs in the explorer (and so with the as default registered version means last OOo-Version - RC or Snapshot). If a problem occures they will ask You: Why can a do not use my stable version? Why dont my stable version starts klicking OOo-Files in the explorer if I have deinstalled the newer Version (RC/Snapshot). * With default settings the user profile is the same for the stable an the dev/RC (in case of minor releases). User will ask You 'Why effect every change in the testing version to the userprofile of my stable version?' ... an do one!!! Thats why it is a bad idea to change the current way of setup. If the user is able to keep the old version, he must be able to keep all settings of the old version too or he must be able to switch between the versions. And You have to decribe every step for the user in order to prevent faults and errors. Last but not least, I test snapshots on different OS but not on my productiv machine. At present You dont need an other machine for this because You could do this with virtal machines in vmwareplayer/server, quemu an so on. So You have a strict border between the different versions, in my mind the best way to test and compare between different versions. Marko Moeller - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[installation-issues] [Issue 52695] let user decide whether n ew installation updates older one
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=52695 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Mar 2 07:31:42 -0800 2006 --- Marko, if we put the choice somewhere under Custom Installation, most users will never see it, and anyone using custom install should not have a problem with it. Using a virtual machine, as you have suggested, is far too technical a solution, and not one that I would ever contemplate. Why should I have to change my computer's configuration just to use OOo the way I want to use it? - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[installation-issues] [Issue 52695] let user decide whether n ew installation updates older one
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=52695 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Mar 2 07:42:59 -0800 2006 --- I am not arguing about how the RELEASE should behave but rather how to accomodate users, such as jeanweber, who want to run development releases at the same time as the stable version. I have tried using the method I put in this issue and it does work but only in part. The part that doesn't work is how to prevent menu updating when a user first invokes soffice from the parallel repository. In windows, this does not seem possible to me. Is there a way? - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[installation-issues] [Issue 52695] let user decide whether n ew installation updates older one
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=52695 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Mar 2 08:20:49 -0800 2006 --- After thinking and trying again I think I have a partial answer to the problem. executing setup.exe /a is supposed to install without user interface stuff. When I try under XP Pro the user interface is updated which is not expected. Has there been a change to setup.exe? - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[installation-issues] [Issue 52695] let user decide whether n ew installation updates older one
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=52695 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Mar 2 10:32:55 -0800 2006 --- For the record, the problem is not setup.exe at all. It was how I was completing the procedure. The following should be enough to get any user working with multiple releases without changing anything with the build or release cycle. 1.Open WINDOWS START MENU - RUN ... 2.Enter the path and file to the setup OR browse to the location 3.Add at the end (to the right of the setup.exe command) a space and /a (including the quotes) Note: When you install the OpenOffice.org with the option “/a” there is NO system integration. (no start menu entries and no file association) 4.click OK 5.The setup program starts 6.5.select the location where you want to install the testing release of OpenOffice.org. For example d:\OOo202rc4. 7.Complete setup procedures. 8.Go to the directory where you have installed the test release of OpenOffice.org. For example d:\OOo202rc4 9.In the program directory, do the following: a)open the bootstrap.ini with a text editor, and change the line UserInstallation=$SYSUSERCONFIG/OpenOffice.org2 to UserInstallation=$SYSUSERCONFIG/OOo202rc4. This way, multiple builds, with different GUI languages, can run at the same time. 10. While in this directory, locate the modules you wish to test, say swriter.exe, and create a shortcut. Copy this to your desktop and rename it to anything you like that distinguishes it from the stable version. Thanks to Andre Schnabel [EMAIL PROTECTED] for his help in correcting me. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[installation-issues] [Issue 52695] let user decide whether n ew installation updates older one
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=52695 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Mar 1 04:25:44 -0800 2006 --- I think the easiest way for this problem to be solved is to place Yoshi's instructions on the devel release webpage until such time as the code is in place. This will help to eliminate the confusion that results when our users try testing. Here are the instructions: If you want to make more than one version coexist absolutely, it will should test the following way. You can test a new version without uninstalling the version of the usage. 1. Extract new version (ex. OOo202rc4) by setup /a (This means Network installaion) You should make the extract place for example d:\OOo202rc4. 2. By the default, user configulation files are made at C:\Document and Settings\username\Application Data\OpenOffice.org2 (Windows XP/2000) But,by just as it is, user configulation has conflicted by two versions. To prevent confliction, modify in d:\OOo202rc4\program\bootstrap.ini from UserInstallation=$SYSUSERCONFIG/OpenOffice.org2 -- default to UserInstallation=$SYSUSERCONFIG/OOo202rc4 3. Run d:\OOo202rc4\program\soffice.exe User configulations of 2.0.2rc4 are made at C:\Document and Settings\username\Application Data\OpenOffice.org2 (Windows XP/2000) Caution: 1.This way is the outside of the guarantee. It should use in self-responsibility . 2. Documents aren't related to the version extracted by setup /a, and it isn't registered to the Start menu. because setup /a is a only extraction, not modifying registries. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[installation-issues] [Issue 52695] let user decide whether n ew installation updates older one
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=52695 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Mar 1 05:42:41 -0800 2006 --- Added myself to cc list - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[installation-issues] [Issue 52695] let user decide whether n ew installation updates older one
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=52695 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Mar 1 08:01:29 -0800 2006 --- I am glad to see this issue, because I think it is essential for people to be able to have *both* the stable version and the RC installed at the same time if they wish. Here is why: I often need to compare the two versions when I'm doing user assistance or writing documentation. I need to check things in the old version to duplicate the user's problem and then check it in the new version to see if it works there for me. At home, I can install the two versions on different machines, but I don't carry two laptops with me when I travel. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[installation-issues] [Issue 52695] let user decide whether n ew installation updates older one
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=52695 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Mar 1 10:11:06 -0800 2006 --- I have tried using Yoshi's instructions and am having problems. First install as a network install which places the working code in the target directory. Modify bootstrap.ini per directions in the target. So far so good. However, when executing target\program\soffice.exe the menus end up being pointed to the new installation but the user files are in the correct place. So the question is how to fix the start menu to have both? - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[installation-issues] [Issue 52695] let user decide whether n ew installation updates older one
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=52695 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Feb 28 18:16:22 -0800 2006 --- *** Issue 62360 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. *** - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[installation-issues] [Issue 52695] let user decide whether n ew installation updates older one
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=52695 User of changed the following: What|Old value |New value Assigned to|of|requirements --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Aug 2 02:38:34 -0700 2005 --- reassigned - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
