[l10n-issues] [Issue 106992] Date format error (Englis h - Canada)

2010-04-14 Thread rehardy
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--- Additional comments from reha...@openoffice.org Wed Apr 14 16:51:38 
+ 2010 ---
Thanks for fixing this. This now works for me too as of Dev DEV300 build m76.


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[l10n-issues] [Issue 106992] Date format error (Englis h - Canada)

2010-04-14 Thread hoserjoe
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--- Additional comments from hoser...@openoffice.org Wed Apr 14 21:16:06 
+ 2010 ---
Thanks to everyone who was involved in fixing this annoying smart bug :-)
Calendar dates are probably the most annoying of all smart features and a great
deal could still be done to make them a pleasure to use.  For example, having a
hot key to insert today's date (Ctrl-D).  Or even pick/insert from a pop-up
calendar.  Dates are REALLY important in business, so it would be nice if OO
would focus on them a little more. But this little fix will be helpful.

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[l10n-issues] [Issue 106992] Date format error (Englis h - Canada)

2010-03-15 Thread sba
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What|Old value |New value

  Status|RESOLVED  |VERIFIED





--- Additional comments from s...@openoffice.org Mon Mar 15 12:58:44 + 
2010 ---
Verified in CWS locales33. In new Writer and Calc documents I get default date
format -MM-DD when locale is set to English (Canada).

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[l10n-issues] [Issue 106992] Date format error (Englis h - Canada)

2010-03-15 Thread roger6106
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  CC|'es'  |'es,roger6106'





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[l10n-issues] [Issue 106992] Date format error (Englis h - Canada)

2010-03-14 Thread rehardy
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--- Additional comments from reha...@openoffice.org Sun Mar 14 18:46:30 
+ 2010 ---
This still isn't fixed. I just tested OOo-dev 3.3.0 m75 build 9488. 
Calc is still broken when using a Canadian English locale.
Please re-open and fix this to prevent data entry errors.


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[l10n-issues] [Issue 106992] Date format error (Englis h - Canada)

2010-03-14 Thread hoserjoe
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What|Old value |New value

  Status|RESOLVED  |VERIFIED





--- Additional comments from hoser...@openoffice.org Sun Mar 14 19:32:24 
+ 2010 ---
I agree with rehardy, but he/she/it explains the concerns better than I do.  
Thanks!

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[l10n-issues] [Issue 106992] Date format error (Englis h - Canada)

2010-03-14 Thread es
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User es changed the following:

What|Old value |New value

  Status|VERIFIED  |REOPENED

  Resolution|FIXED |





--- Additional comments from e...@openoffice.org Sun Mar 14 21:07:18 + 
2010 ---
@rehardy/hoserjoe: please learn to use
http://tools.services.openoffice.org/EIS2/ to know when you can see a fix in a
master.
Yes the issue is (probably) fixed but in a CWS which is still in QA examination.
Not nominated and not integrated. So, no, you cannot see the fix yet.

Furthermore VERIFIED means Yes it is fixed, so please don't use this to say
no, it's not fixed and let the owner (sba) of the fixed issue verify it 
himself.

Thank you!

@SBA: re-setting to FIXED.

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[l10n-issues] [Issue 106992] Date format error (Englis h - Canada)

2010-03-14 Thread es
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User es changed the following:

What|Old value |New value

  Status|REOPENED  |RESOLVED

  Resolution|  |FIXED





--- Additional comments from e...@openoffice.org Sun Mar 14 21:08:13 + 
2010 ---
Fixed

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[l10n-issues] [Issue 106992] Date format error (Englis h - Canada)

2010-03-14 Thread hoserjoe
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--- Additional comments from hoser...@openoffice.org Sun Mar 14 21:47:28 
+ 2010 ---
I guess you're asking us simple users to verify that an issue exists, or that
it's fixed.  We only know that it doesn't appear to be fixed, and the rest of
the stick-handling of the issue is way over our heads.  So, to me, it looks like
it's still not fixed and that it should be verified as not fixed.  But if you
can assure me that it's fixed even though it's not fixed, I guess I'll have to
trust someone on this.  But it's asking a bit much of a simple user.

Perhaps you can answer me this: How will we know that has really and truly been
fixed?

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[l10n-issues] [Issue 106992] Date format error (Englis h - Canada)

2010-03-14 Thread rehardy
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--- Additional comments from reha...@openoffice.org Sun Mar 14 22:43:14 
+ 2010 ---
@es Thanks for the clarification. I'm new to this and while the process seems
unduely complicated, OOo is huge and I can see some logic to it.

@hoserjoe Regular users will know this is fixed when we see it fixed in a DEV300
master build (or a subsequently released stable version.)

From what I understand we will only see that after it gets approved by QA,
nominated and finally integrated. That information isn't shown in the bug
system, but is in EIS2. It seems the fix will show up in one of the DEV300
master builds some time (a few days?) after the Integration Date has passed
and/or an entry appears in the Milestone Integrated field shows up in the EIS2
system.
Those fields/dates are visible on the EIS2 tool using URL provided by erack or
manually by selecting Master DEV300 and TaskID i106992.


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[l10n-issues] [Issue 106992] Date format error (Englis h - Canada)

2010-03-10 Thread rehardy
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--- Additional comments from reha...@openoffice.org Wed Mar 10 17:53:10 
+ 2010 ---
I've tested both OOo-dev 3.3.0 m73 and 3.3.0 m74 Build 9487 on Win 7 Pro. One of
which, as best as I can tell, should have included the fix for this issue.
Both versions show still display the problem which was present in 3.2.0.

I was not able to download the language packs for English UK for OOo-dev as they
don't seem to be available yet.

I installed OOo 3.3.0 m74 in parallel with OOo 3.2.0. Launching a new calc,
under Languages I had a GUI setting of English USA and all three of Locale
Setting, Currency and Default Language for Documents Western were set to English
Canada.

Typing an ISO 8601 compliant date ex. 2010-9-8 into a new document results in a
completely ambiguous 08/09/10 being displayed in the cell and an ambiguous
08/09/2010 being display in the entry field. Manually changing date format to
ISO 8601 fixes cell display to 2010-09-08 but not the entry field which remains
08/09/2010. As before changing the locale language to French Canada results in
the correct ISO 8601 date format being displayed in both the cell and the entry
field, but causes other issues.


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[l10n-issues] [Issue 106992] Date format error (Englis h - Canada)

2010-03-05 Thread er
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User er changed the following:

What|Old value |New value

 Assigned to|erack |sba





--- Additional comments from e...@openoffice.org Sat Mar  6 00:13:10 + 
2010 ---
Reassigning to QA for verification.

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[l10n-issues] [Issue 106992] Date format error (Englis h - Canada)

2010-02-23 Thread erack
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--- Additional comments from er...@openoffice.org Tue Feb 23 08:46:08 + 
2010 ---
@hoserjoe: probably the smallest minority's language supported ever ;-)
http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=shs


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[l10n-issues] [Issue 106992] Date format error (Englis h - Canada)

2010-02-21 Thread erack
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User erack changed the following:

What|Old value |New value

  Status|NEW   |RESOLVED

  Resolution|  |FIXED





--- Additional comments from er...@openoffice.org Mon Feb 22 00:37:37 + 
2010 ---
Default date and date-time formats for Canadian English, French and Shuswap are
now -MM-DD

In cws locales33:

changeset ea22ecdd80c0
http://hg.services.openoffice.org/cws/locales33/changeset/ea22ecdd80c0
M i18npool/source/localedata/data/en_CA.xml
M i18npool/source/localedata/data/fr_CA.xml
M i18npool/source/localedata/data/shs_CA.xml

You can observe the progress and possible integration date of CWS locales33 at
http://eis.services.openoffice.org/EIS2/cws.ShowCWS?Path=DEV300%2Flocales33


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[l10n-issues] [Issue 106992] Date format error (Englis h - Canada)

2010-02-21 Thread hoserjoe
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--- Additional comments from hoser...@openoffice.org Mon Feb 22 07:55:10 
+ 2010 ---
@erack Mon Feb 22: Default date and date-time formats for Canadian English,
French and Shuswap are now -MM-DD

I think this is good news . . . but (holding my breath) . . . what's Shuswap?


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[l10n-issues] [Issue 106992] Date format error (Englis h - Canada)

2010-02-08 Thread rehardy
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--- Additional comments from reha...@openoffice.org Tue Feb  9 00:49:16 
+ 2010 ---
Not using an ambiguous date format is VERY VERY important. Please considered
raising the priority of this bug and getting it fixed it ASAP. This is probably
a source of frustration for a lot of Canadian users. It took me a long time to
find this.

It shouldn't be hard to copy the correct short date format from the
French(Canada) locale.

Canadians by statue should use CSA Z234.5:1989 date format for short dates which
is equivalent to ISO 8601, where short dates are store/entered as -MM-DD ex
2010-02-26. Using ISO standards ensure there is no confusion between months and
days, nor year 2000 type issues.

Unfortunately there is a bug in OOO310m19 Build 9420 (English - Canada) locale
data (I'm using the Windows build on Windows 7 Pro at the moment) which
incorrectly uses a confusing US like date format. Making changes to the defaults
or the Windows locale settings has no effect on this bug.

This bug is visible in calc when you start a new spreadsheet, enter a date using
ISO 8601 ex 2008-02-26 and then look at the formula/data entry window after you
hit enter. If you have set Options-Language Settings-Language of Local
setting to English (Canada) it will incorrectly display 26/02/2008. If you
change that same setting to French (Canada) and leave everything else in the
Lanuages set at Default or English (Canada) the date format is correctly
displayed as 2008-02-26.

This issue can lead to data entry errors and should be fixed ASAP.

A temporary work around is to set Options-Language Settings-Language of Local
setting to French(Canada) but it is unclear what other undesirable side
effects this will have. 


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[l10n-issues] [Issue 106992] Date format error (Englis h - Canada)

2010-02-08 Thread hoserjoe
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--- Additional comments from hoser...@openoffice.org Tue Feb  9 01:41:38 
+ 2010 ---
The downside of relying on the French(Canada) workaround is that currency
values will start displaying like 4,95$.  It works, but it's hard on the
brain.  BTW, I hope that everyone commenting on this issue VOTES for the issue.
 So far, only 2 people (one of them is me) have voted for the issue.  This may
explain why the issue remains a low priority with OO.

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[l10n-issues] [Issue 106992] Date format error (Englis h - Canada)

2010-02-08 Thread rehardy
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--- Additional comments from reha...@openoffice.org Tue Feb  9 01:48:21 
+ 2010 ---
In my install of OO, in Calc when using the French(Canada) workaround you can
select Options-Language Settings-Language of Default Current = CAD $
English(Canada) while set on French(Canada) for Locale Setting.
I don't see the currency issue when configured that way.

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[l10n-issues] [Issue 106992] Date format error (Englis h - Canada)

2009-11-24 Thread hoserjoe
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--- Additional comments from hoser...@openoffice.org Tue Nov 24 20:46:32 
+ 2009 ---
FWIW, in the Windows OS it's easy to reset the default to the correct setting. 
In Windows, the change stays as set, and it works in every context.  But it's
not so easy in OO. It must be set for each document, for example. Calc doesn't
even present an Insert/Date option, which is a serious omission.  The ideal
would be as requested in Issue 30216, but this interim quick-fix might be a
small improvement.  Even better would be if OO could simply read the the user's
date  format from the parent Windows setting.

In all these date matters, the separator (/ or . or -) is irrelevant. It's a
simple formatting option.  What matters is that the ISO date-number sequence
removes all ambiguity from the date presented.  That is, there is no doubt what
2009-11-10 means, but 09/11/10 can be read 3 different ways.  Therefore the
default setting in OO is most important to us, the everyday OO users.

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[l10n-issues] [Issue 106992] Date format error (Englis h - Canada)

2009-11-23 Thread er
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User er changed the following:

What|Old value |New value

 Assigned to|er|erack

   Component|framework |l10n

  QA contact|iss...@framework  |iss...@l10n

Target milestone|OOo Later |OOo 3.3





--- Additional comments from e...@openoffice.org Mon Nov 23 12:43:39 + 
2009 ---
According to the reference given in #desc6 TBITS 36 of the Treasury
Board of Canada
http://www.tbs-sct.gc.ca/pol/doc-eng.aspx?id=17284section=text#sec4.1
and http://unicode.org/repos/cldr-tmp/trunk/diff/summary/en_CA.html (see
also http://unicode.org/cldr/apps/survey?_=en_CAx=gregorian#Approved )
the default date format should be -MM-DD.

http://unicode.org/cldr/apps/survey?_=en_CAforum=enxpath=1 mentions as
reference National Standard of Canada, CAN/CSA-Z234.4-89: All-Numeric
Dates and Times. (Reaffirmed 2000-05-25).

Reassigning to spare time account.

Notes:
- The ISO 8601 -MM-DD format is available in all locales.
- At least in Windows up to Windows 2003 the default date format for
  en-CA is still DD/MM/.


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[l10n-issues] [Issue 106992] Date format error (Englis h - Canada)

2009-11-23 Thread er
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User er changed the following:

What|Old value |New value

Subcomponent|ui|localedata





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