[l10n-issues] [Issue 85411] ZWSP is no longer consider ed as a word separation character for spellche cking

2008-08-11 Thread mru
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What|Old value |New value

  Status|RESOLVED  |VERIFIED

Target milestone|OOo 3.1   |OOo 3.0





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Aug 11 12:47:54 + 
2008 ---
OK, I have talked with ER about this and he reassured me that the fix is not
risky at all; that only the use of the ZWSP is affected.
Also the fact, that Javier already tested builds based on that code limits the
necessary resources of QA for this.

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[l10n-issues] [Issue 85411] ZWSP is no longer consider ed as a word separation character for spellche cking

2008-08-11 Thread javiersola
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Aug 11 17:02:53 + 
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Thanks!

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[l10n-issues] [Issue 85411] ZWSP is no longer consider ed as a word separation character for spellche cking

2008-08-09 Thread er
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Aug  9 12:55:07 + 
2008 ---
I do not accept the decision to not include the fix of this issue. As
Javier already stated, not including the fix will render OOo3.0
completely useless for a language spoken in a country that was the first
in the world to _mandate_ use of OOo in school and education.

 - changes and fixes in the break iterator lead to various regressions
 in the past

True. But this one affects ZWSP only. I just reviewed the changes on the
branch. Languages not using ZWSP will not see any difference, and
languages using ZWSP now will be usable.

 - currently low QA resources due to vacation

The QA left to be done would be to start the automated tests, and to
verify for some arbitrary sample language that the break iterator's
treatment of whitespace is not broken.

 - the issue was untouched for a very long time; also it was three
 weeks in DEV with state fixed and reached the QA right in the phase of
 release time

Status FIXED in DEV was because Javier actually tested builds including
fixes because no one at Sun is able to read or write Khmer. And while
doing so the fix was recoded because it turned out that changes to the
ICU were not necessary. Unfortunately when the issue was reassigned to
QA the CWS was not set rfQA, so that may have caused some unnecessary
delay of about a week or so.

 - the CWS was build on a milestone, where linguistic was broken for many
 languages, so a re-synch would also be necessary

Well, too bad, but not a real problem. I resynced to m28, new install
sets are ready. wntmsci12.pro is still building but should also be ready
soon. Just pick it up later.


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[l10n-issues] [Issue 85411] ZWSP is no longer consider ed as a word separation character for spellche cking

2008-08-08 Thread mru
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What|Old value |New value

  CC|'er,khirano,mh'   |'er,khirano,mh,mru'

OtherIssuesDependingOnTh|8 |
  is|  |

Target milestone|OOo 3.0   |OOo 3.1





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Aug  8 11:07:50 + 
2008 ---
We will take this fix into OO 3.1 branch. 
The affected area needs a lot of QA resources for accurate testing. These
resources can currently not be granted this short time before a major OOo 
release. 

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[l10n-issues] [Issue 85411] ZWSP is no longer consider ed as a word separation character for spellche cking

2008-08-08 Thread javiersola
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Aug  8 11:53:17 + 
2008 ---
This issue breaks completelly OpenOffice for three countries, making it 
useless. 

It is accepted as a showstopper for 3.0, and the training materials for Ministry
of Education in Cambodia are being developed based on OpenOffice 3.0 (OpenOffice
is mandatory in all schools).

The changes made include simple changes in files in the
i18npool/source/breakiterator/data directory, and also changes in ICU. 

We just finished building, and checked that the changes in the files in
i18npool/source/breakiterator/data are sufficient, and that it is not necessary
to add to the patch to ICU (no changes in ICU are necessary). Changing ICU 
would be a more complete solution, but changing the files in
i18npool/source/breakiterator/data is sufficient to solve the main problem.



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[l10n-issues] [Issue 85411] ZWSP is no longer consider ed as a word separation character for spellche cking

2008-08-08 Thread er
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Aug  8 13:30:39 + 
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@mru:
 We will take this fix into OO 3.1 branch. 

Who decided that?

 The affected area needs a lot of QA resources for accurate testing.

What gives you this impression?

Note that the effective changes in CWS i18n44 are not the patch that is
attached to this issue, changes to the ICU were backed out again.

The change in CWS i18n44 only excludes the ZWSP character from the list
of control characters in breakiterator data files, and adds ZWSP to the
handling of whitespace for the breakiterators. Languages not using ZWSP
as a word delimiter are not even affected.

I strongly urge you to reconsider and retarget this issue and CWS i18n44
to OOo3.0 again, I'm re-adding the dependency to issue 8 now.

Thanks
  Eike


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[l10n-issues] [Issue 85411] ZWSP is no longer consider ed as a word separation character for spellche cking

2008-08-08 Thread er
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OtherIssuesDependingOnTh|  |8
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[l10n-issues] [Issue 85411] ZWSP is no longer consider ed as a word separation character for spellche cking

2008-08-08 Thread mru
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  CC|'er,khirano,mh,mru'   |'er,khirano,mh,mru,thorste
|  |nziehm,ul'





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Aug  8 14:00:10 + 
2008 ---
@er:
MRU, UL and TZ (aka thorstenziehm in Issuetracker) decided this
The following facts were decisive for us:
- changes and fixes in the break iterator lead to various regressions in the 
past
- currently low QA resources due to vacation
- the issue was reported on Version 2.3.1, so why not stopper in 2.4.x
- the issue was untouched for a very long time; also it was three weeks in DEV
with state fixed and reached the QA right in the phase of release time
- the CWS was build on a milestone, where linguistic was broken for many
languages, so a re-synch would also be necessary

These reasons made us decide to reject it as a stopper.

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[l10n-issues] [Issue 85411] ZWSP is no longer consider ed as a word separation character for spellche cking

2008-08-08 Thread javiersola
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Aug  9 03:36:10 + 
2008 ---
The change from ICU 2.6 to 3.6 introduced several issues that made 2.3 and 2.4
unusable for Khmer, so they were not used. The spellchecker was developed 
recently, which is what has led to detecting the problem, then it has been
tracked back to earlier versions. We reallised that it worked in 2.1, but not in
later version.

It was not clear until the last minute which version of ICU was going to be used
in OpenOffice 3.0. We started working on ICU 4.0 and then had to change to ICU
3.6, and then ended up finding out that the issue was in on OOo code itself,
copied form ICU.

The changes spams one single Unicode character, ZWSP (ZERO WIDTH SPACE), which
is taken out of the control and format groups for word-separation (for word
selection and spellchecing), making it a normal character that can be used for
word separation (what it is supposed to be). Format characters are not used for
word separation. This is done already for line-breaking (in a different way),
but not for word-separation, which affects spellchecking.

The change cannot affect anything that does not use the ZWSP character, which is
used only in Khmer (Cambodian), Lao, and Myanmar text. None of these languages
can be treated correctly without this issue being fixed.

Cambodia is the only country in the world that has mandated the use of
OpenOffice in all its education system... and implemented it. It is still using
OpeOffice 2.1. Not being able to use OpenOffice 3.0 - when we have told them
that the problems had been fixed (based on acceptance of the showstopper) -
would really send the wrong message to the MOST friendly government in the world
to OpenOffice.



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[l10n-issues] [Issue 85411] ZWSP is no longer consider ed as a word separation character for spellche cking

2008-07-24 Thread khong
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  Status|NEW   |RESOLVED

  Resolution|  |FIXED





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jul 24 16:26:23 + 
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Fixed in cws i18n44.

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[l10n-issues] [Issue 85411] ZWSP is no longer consider ed as a word separation character for spellche cking

2008-07-24 Thread khong
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 Assigned to|khong |sba





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jul 24 16:40:54 + 
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ready for QA.

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[l10n-issues] [Issue 85411] ZWSP is no longer consider ed as a word separation character for spellche cking

2008-07-22 Thread javiersola
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jul 22 13:08:28 + 
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Karl,

I think I found the problem.

Testing of the second build showed no change whatsoever. 

What I was changing were the text files that have all the descriptions of the
Unicode characters. I thought that this was the only place were this information
was present, and that this changes would be taken into account at compilation 
time.

But I was wrong. The compilation process does NOT use those text files by
default, so no changes were taking place in the code. 

It is necessary to run some applications (in the source of ICU) that
automatically generate three files: 

source/common/uchar_props_data.c
source/common/ubidi_props_data.c
source/common/ucase_props_data.c

I did that and got the new source that should solve the problem (I hope).

I am attaching a new patch (ChangeZWSPtoSpacingCharForICU36_v3.diff) in which
changes for these three files have been automatically generated from the data.

The original .txt files are also changed in the patch, but they do not affect
the result, only show which are the changes that have been take into the .c 
files



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[l10n-issues] [Issue 85411] ZWSP is no longer consider ed as a word separation character for spellche cking

2008-07-22 Thread javiersola
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 Attachment is patch|  |Created an attachment (id=
|  |55291)
Patch for ICU 3.6 t
|  |o add ZWSP as a word bound
|  |ary






--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jul 22 13:16:38 + 
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Created an attachment (id=55291)
Patch for ICU 3.6 to add ZWSP as a word boundary


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[l10n-issues] [Issue 85411] ZWSP is no longer consider ed as a word separation character for spellche cking

2008-07-14 Thread khirano
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[l10n-issues] [Issue 85411] ZWSP is no longer consider ed as a word separation character for spellche cking

2008-07-14 Thread mh
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  CC|'er,khirano'  |'er,khirano,mh'

OtherIssuesDependingOnTh|  |8
  is|  |

Target milestone|---   |OOo 3.0





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jul 14 08:09:11 + 
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accepted for 3.0 release.

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[l10n-issues] [Issue 85411] ZWSP is no longer consider ed as a word separation character for spellche cking

2008-07-14 Thread er
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 Assigned to|er|khong





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jul 14 09:24:42 + 
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Karl, could you please take over and create a CWS for this patch only, targeted
to OOo3.0
Thanks
  Eike


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[l10n-issues] [Issue 85411] ZWSP is no longer consider ed as a word separation character for spellche cking

2008-07-13 Thread javiersola
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Jul 13 12:48:39 + 
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I am attaching the patch for 3.6. I had done it already, but them I thought that
it was 4.0 that would go in. I am attaching it.

Thanks. I will now write to the release list.

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[l10n-issues] [Issue 85411] ZWSP is no longer consider ed as a word separation character for spellche cking

2008-07-13 Thread javiersola
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 Attachment is patch|  |Created an attachment (id=
|  |55092)
Patch to change ZWS
|  |P to be a spacng character
|  |






--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Jul 13 12:50:12 + 
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Created an attachment (id=55092)
Patch to change ZWSP to be a spacng character


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[l10n-issues] [Issue 85411] ZWSP is no longer consider ed as a word separation character for spellche cking

2008-07-11 Thread er
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What|Old value |New value

 Assigned to|sba   |er

   Component|Word processor|l10n

  Ever confirmed|  |1

  Status|UNCONFIRMED   |NEW

  QA contact|[EMAIL PROTECTED] |[EMAIL PROTECTED]





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Jul 11 15:16:56 + 
2008 ---
Javier, as mentioned in a mail, please attach a patch for ICU 3.6 as that is
what we'll continue to use for OOo3.0; we'd need to declare this issue as a show
stopper then. We may need a different patch for ICU 4.0 later when we switch to
ICU 4.0 for OOo3.1, if there isn't an ICU 4.1 by then that would fix the ZWSP.

Thanks
  Eike


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