[sc-issues] [Issue 32340] ODFF: EmptyCell return for functions, like LOOKUP()

2008-10-17 Thread oc
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  Status|VERIFIED  |CLOSED





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Oct 17 13:05:19 + 
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closed because fix available in builds OOO300_m9 and DEV300_m33

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[sc-issues] [Issue 32340] ODFF: EmptyCell return for functions, like LOOKUP()

2008-03-10 Thread er
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Mar 10 17:09:41 + 
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Ron,

The difference you observed comparing OOo and Excel is described in
http://sc.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=featuresmsgNo=263

Excel in itself is completely inconsistent in how it handles empty cells and
empty string formula results, see also issue 65221.

  Eike


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[sc-issues] [Issue 32340] ODFF: EmptyCell return for functions, like LOOKUP()

2008-03-01 Thread ronleach
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Mar  1 17:09:43 + 
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Though I cannot test the new version, I ran the 'test case' through OOo 2.3, and
through MS Excel 97.  For anyone who hasn't tried it yet, the test case
exercises a number of direct, indirect, and built-in function accesses against
several types of cell content, most especially an 'empty cell'.  The sheet
checks the resulting values against what it 'expects' to see, displaying 'ok'
where the result value is as expected, and 'ERR' if (presumably) the result is
not what is expected by the designers.

As would be anticipated, OOo 2.3 displayed 'ERR' in several cells.  Far from
this being a problem, it underlines the 'correctness' of the test cases, because
they can be seen to be exercising the cell content and reference methods that
are giving problems in the current releases.  And judging from the 'expected'
behaviour, I personally am delighted that the problem I reported in 82725 likely
has been fixed, well done, everyone.

Unexpected, though, were a few 'ERR' displays when running the test case through
MS Excel, (XL 97 in this test).  The cell displays from the Excel 97 run are in
the attachment - these show which specific reference methods give rise to 'ERR'.
 Since 'ERR' (presumably, as mentioned above) indicates a cell result that
differs from the result that the OOo designers expect, 'ERR' displays imply that
the new behaviour of OOo will differ from the behaviour of Excel.  (XL 97, at
least, and I have asked a colleague to check against XL 2003.)

[My test procedure:
1. Open the test case i32340_variable_result.ods in OOo 2.3
2. Save as MS Excel 97/2000/XP with .xls extention
3. Open in Excel 97, view the cells, notice some display 'ERR'
4. Capture the results by converting all cells to their actual displayed value
(select sheet, copy, paste special, values skipping blanks)
5. Save resulting data-only sheet as
i32340_variable_result_testcases_XL97_results.xls
6. Open saved sheet in OOo 2.3 to resave in .ods format
7. Save as i32340_variable_result_testcases_XL97_results.ods to attach to this
report]

I think this finding raises 2 completely different questions.

(1)  Is the test case 'correct' in the sense that it embodies the
logically/mathematically correct behaviour that we wanted OOo to exhibit?
Presumably it is, but before we address any apparent interoperability problems
let's be sure we are dealing with a genuine issue.

(2)  If we do have the intended behaviour in OOo, how, in general, do we solve
any resulting problems of interoperability with MS Office?
I've two suggestions here, though I would guess that tracking MS Office
functionality has created issues before, and perhaps there's already a preferred
approach.  I would suggest:

a. Confirm the existence of an interoperability issue, first.  Create a specific
interoperability test case (let's call it a behaviour case) and confirm it
against Excel (97, 2000, 2003, 2007, separate cases if necessary).  Run these
behaviour cases against the existing OOo releases, and against the new
developments that are believed to address the interoperating problems.  Record
the results so that we know what the confirmed problems are, if any.

b. Consider the feasibility of an MS Office compatibility mode (a little like MS
did for the Intel Pentium bug) which could be switched on or off.

I hope the report makes sense and is useful.  Can I close by again saying thanks
to everyone who has worked on this issue?  As already said, the problem I was
hitting seems to be addressed.

regards, Ron


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[sc-issues] [Issue 32340] ODFF: EmptyCell return for functions, like LOOKUP()

2008-03-01 Thread ronleach
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Created an attachment (id=51836)
MS Excel 97 test case results


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[sc-issues] [Issue 32340] ODFF: EmptyCell return for functions, like LOOKUP()

2008-03-01 Thread ronleach
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Mar  1 18:35:15 + 
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As mentioned earlier, I thought that a spreadsheet with the Excel empty cell
behaviour would be useful to help us all check specifically for interoperability
issues.

I attach an OOo calc sheet with the observed behaviour of Excel embodied in the
'expectation' cells. The sheet is just the 32340 test case altered to 'expect'
the Excel behaviour I've observed.  Cells in this sheet will display 'ok' if the
OOo version behaves like Excel does, or will display 'ERR' if OOo behaviour
differs from Excel.

It is possible that MS Excel behaviour differs in different versions.  This
attachment is based on the behaviour in Excel 97.  Hopefully we can at least use
it as a starting point.  I have a colleague with a later Excel version, and I
will check whether the behaviour differs in the later version.

I'm particularly keen to focus on solving any residual interoperating problems
because I'd like to switch to OOo in our technical work.  Since our customers,
and our existing models, use Excel, interoperability problems in any commonly
encountered constructions means that we cannot easily migrate, let alone
interest our clients in doing so.  But that's just a bit of background.

Thanks for reading the note, and I hope the attachment is helpful.

regards, Ron


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[sc-issues] [Issue 32340] ODFF: EmptyCell return for functions, like LOOKUP()

2008-03-01 Thread ronleach
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Mar  1 18:37:10 + 
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Created an attachment (id=51838)
MS Excel empty cell behaviour (XL 97)


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[sc-issues] [Issue 32340] ODFF: EmptyCell return for functions, like LOOKUP()

2008-02-27 Thread er
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Feb 27 10:51:04 + 
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@oc: in the test case specification please use the more complete test cases of
the second attachment
http://www.openoffice.org/nonav/issues/showattachment.cgi/51608/i32340_variable_result_2.ods

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[sc-issues] [Issue 32340] ODFF: EmptyCell return for functions, like LOOKUP()

2008-02-27 Thread oc
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Feb 27 11:26:35 + 
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@er: I've used the second document and have added a check in cell B36 to make it
easier for the automatic tests which will be written in short. But (ashes on my
head, as it is said in Germany) I've renamed the document back to the first one
to shorten the name and have forgotten to attach the enhanced and renamed
version. Thanks for the hint.

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[sc-issues] [Issue 32340] ODFF: EmptyCell return for functions, like LOOKUP()

2008-02-27 Thread oc
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Feb 27 11:27:43 + 
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Created an attachment (id=51750)
Testdocuments for Test Case Specification


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[sc-issues] [Issue 32340] ODFF: EmptyCell return for functions, like LOOKUP()

2008-02-25 Thread oc
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Created an attachment (id=51714)
TestCaseSpecification


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[sc-issues] [Issue 32340] ODFF: EmptyCell return for functions, like LOOKUP()

2008-02-25 Thread oc
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User oc changed the following:

What|Old value |New value

  Status|RESOLVED  |VERIFIED





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Verified in internal build cws_odff

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[sc-issues] [Issue 32340] ODFF: EmptyCell return for functions, like LOOKUP()

2008-02-20 Thread er
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Feb 20 16:44:31 + 
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Additional changes for inherited emptiness:

sc/inc/token.hxx  1.13.60.18
sc/source/core/tool/interpr1.cxx  1.51.38.20
sc/source/core/tool/interpr4.cxx  1.51.56.21
sc/source/core/tool/interpr5.cxx  1.27.34.10
sc/source/core/tool/token.cxx  1.29.30.22


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[sc-issues] [Issue 32340] ODFF: EmptyCell return for functions, like LOOKUP()

2008-02-20 Thread er
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Feb 20 17:28:17 + 
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Created an attachment (id=51608)
more complete test cases


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[sc-issues] [Issue 32340] ODFF: EmptyCell return for functions, like LOOKUP()

2008-02-20 Thread er
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 Assigned to|er|oc





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Reassigning to QA for verification.

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[sc-issues] [Issue 32340] ODFF: EmptyCell return for functions, like LOOKUP()

2008-02-01 Thread er
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What|Old value |New value

  Status|STARTED   |RESOLVED

  Resolution|  |FIXED





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Feb  1 17:17:29 + 
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In cws odff:

sc/inc/Attic/formularesult.hxx  1.1.2.1
sc/inc/Attic/formularesult.hxx  1.1.2.2
sc/inc/Attic/formularesult.hxx  1.1.2.3
sc/inc/Attic/formularesult.hxx  1.1.2.4
sc/inc/Attic/formularesult.hxx  1.1.2.5
sc/inc/cell.hxx  1.25.64.3
sc/inc/cell.hxx  1.25.64.4
sc/inc/cell.hxx  1.25.64.5
sc/inc/cell.hxx  1.25.64.6
sc/inc/cell.hxx  1.25.64.7
sc/inc/document.hxx  1.106.4.1
sc/inc/recursionhelper.hxx  1.4.498.1
sc/inc/scmatrix.hxx  1.8.90.2
sc/inc/scmatrix.hxx  1.8.90.3
sc/inc/tokenarray.hxx  1.10.30.4
sc/inc/tokenarray.hxx  1.10.30.5
sc/inc/token.hxx  1.13.60.11
sc/inc/token.hxx  1.13.60.12
sc/inc/token.hxx  1.13.60.13
sc/inc/token.hxx  1.13.60.7
sc/inc/token.hxx  1.13.60.8
sc/source/core/data/cell2.cxx  1.30.90.2
sc/source/core/data/cell2.cxx  1.30.90.3
sc/source/core/data/cell2.cxx  1.30.90.4
sc/source/core/data/cell2.cxx  1.30.90.5
sc/source/core/data/cell2.cxx  1.30.90.6
sc/source/core/data/cell.cxx  1.39.60.4
sc/source/core/data/cell.cxx  1.39.60.6
sc/source/core/data/cell.cxx  1.39.60.7
sc/source/core/data/cell.cxx  1.39.60.8
sc/source/core/data/cell.cxx  1.39.60.9
sc/source/core/data/column.cxx  1.25.36.1
sc/source/core/data/dociter.cxx  1.19.158.2
sc/source/core/data/documen4.cxx  1.18.158.3
sc/source/core/data/documen4.cxx  1.18.158.4
sc/source/core/data/document.cxx  1.81.4.1
sc/source/core/inc/interpre.hxx  1.31.38.7
sc/source/core/inc/interpre.hxx  1.31.38.8
sc/source/core/inc/interpre.hxx  1.31.38.9
sc/source/core/tool/cellform.cxx  1.5.318.1
sc/source/core/tool/compiler.cxx  1.70.56.17
sc/source/core/tool/compiler.cxx  1.70.56.18
sc/source/core/tool/interpr1.cxx  1.51.38.12
sc/source/core/tool/interpr1.cxx  1.51.38.13
sc/source/core/tool/interpr1.cxx  1.51.38.14
sc/source/core/tool/interpr2.cxx  1.33.56.10
sc/source/core/tool/interpr2.cxx  1.33.56.7
sc/source/core/tool/interpr2.cxx  1.33.56.8
sc/source/core/tool/interpr2.cxx  1.33.56.9
sc/source/core/tool/interpr3.cxx  1.20.30.3
sc/source/core/tool/interpr3.cxx  1.20.30.4
sc/source/core/tool/interpr4.cxx  1.51.56.12
sc/source/core/tool/interpr4.cxx  1.51.56.13
sc/source/core/tool/interpr4.cxx  1.51.56.14
sc/source/core/tool/interpr4.cxx  1.51.56.15
sc/source/core/tool/interpr4.cxx  1.51.56.16
sc/source/core/tool/interpr4.cxx  1.51.56.17
sc/source/core/tool/interpr5.cxx  1.27.34.4
sc/source/core/tool/interpr5.cxx  1.27.34.5
sc/source/core/tool/interpr5.cxx  1.27.34.6
sc/source/core/tool/rangenam.cxx  1.24.158.5
sc/source/core/tool/token.cxx  1.29.30.13
sc/source/core/tool/token.cxx  1.29.30.14
sc/source/core/tool/token.cxx  1.29.30.16
sc/source/core/tool/token.cxx  1.29.30.17
sc/source/core/tool/token.cxx  1.29.30.18
sc/source/filter/excel/excform.cxx  1.48.60.3
sc/source/filter/excel/tokstack.cxx  1.12.90.2
sc/source/filter/excel/xeformula.cxx  1.20.8.4
sc/source/ui/view/viewfunc.cxx  1.39.4.1


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[sc-issues] [Issue 32340] ODFF: EmptyCell return for functions, like LOOKUP()

2008-02-01 Thread er
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Created an attachment (id=51312)
testcases for emptiness


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[sc-issues] [Issue 32340] ODFF: EmptyCell return for functions, like LOOKUP()

2007-12-12 Thread pagalmes
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[sc-issues] [Issue 32340] ODFF: EmptyCell return for functions, like LOOKUP()

2007-11-14 Thread er
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What|Old value |New value

 Summary|EmptyCell return for funct|ODFF: EmptyCell return for
|ions, like LOOKUP()   | functions, like LOOKUP()

Target milestone|OOo Later |OOo 3.0





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ODFF relevant.

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