[sc-issues] [Issue 85825] Multidimensional Spreadshe ets and OLAP Functionality

2008-08-12 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Aug 12 20:55:43 + 
2008 ---
This is a quote from the MS-forums and it highlights another use case for the
proposed functionality. The post might better explain what I tried to accomplish
with multidimensional spreadsheets (although the concept of multidimensionality
goes far beyond this simple case):
[I have corrected some misspellings]

 Why not a HEADER FORMULA.
 When I bring data through queries, I typically end up adding calculated
 columns on the excel side. Each column has the same formula, I just copy
 the formula up to the last record. At every refresh, the number of records
 may change and I could need to copy further down. When I am tired to repeat
 the process, I copy the formula for more rows than enough and typically,
 I end up having unnecessary calculated rows. Usually, I keep a copy of
 the formula over the header line. In this case, since we can treat the data
 as a table, we could prevent this copy process by defining the calculated
 columns from the top line, the HEADER FORMULA. The calculated rows would
 adjust automatically the same way the filters does.

 Jean

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[sc-issues] [Issue 85825] Multidimensional Spreadshe ets and OLAP Functionality

2008-02-06 Thread oc
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User oc changed the following:

What|Old value |New value

 Assigned to|spreadsheet   |requirements

Priority|P2|P3

Target milestone|---   |OOo Later





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Feb  6 15:07:25 + 
2008 ---
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[sc-issues] [Issue 85825] Multidimensional Spreadshe ets and OLAP Functionality

2008-02-03 Thread discoleo
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 Issue #|85825
 Summary|Multidimensional Spreadsheets and OLAP Functionality
   Component|Spreadsheet
 Version|1.0.0
Platform|All
 URL|http://www.olapreport.com/origins.htm
  OS/Version|All
  Status|UNCONFIRMED
   Status whiteboard|
Keywords|
  Resolution|
  Issue type|FEATURE
Priority|P2
Subcomponent|code
 Assigned to|spreadsheet
 Reported by|discoleo





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Feb  3 17:09:40 + 
2008 ---
This issue is part of a more comprehensive issue describing *major design flaws*
of existing spreadsheets.

I have posted already major design flaws part (1.)(issue 79924),  part (2.)
(issue 80139) and a subissue of part (4.) (issue 83767).

This is the Part (3.) of Major Spreadsheet Design Flaws continuing the design
flaws in the Spreadsheet Structure. The implementation of this issue will also
depend significantly on the Part (4.) issue in this series and on splitting the
spreadsheet into 2 components (as described briefly in this issue and further on
in a future post).


SUMMARY
===

With the recent acquisition of MySQL by SUN Microsystems and the various
developments in the IT world, a new appraisal of *multidimensional software* has
become necessary.


TOC


 - INTRO: Multidimensional Spreadsheets
   -- Problem
 - SOLUTION
   -- Concept
 - UTILITY
 - LESSONS


A. INTRO

So, what are Multidimensional Spreadsheets? I will begin with a small
description of the problem.

A.1. PROBLEM
Lets say, a business takes account of its sales using a spreadsheet. Monthly
data is analysed and used for various calculations. Now, a new month has
started, and the data begins to be entered in the spreadsheet. The problem is,
the user has to copy all the formulas from the previous month to the new month
(and correct/adapt eventual copy-errors), then correct the formulas yielding
yearly data/analysis (like yearly sales, ...) to use the data from the new 
month.

This process is cumbersome and error prone.


B. SOLUTION
===

The solution would be to make the spreadsheet automatically aware of this new
data and:
  i.) apply all formulas correctly on this new data, while
 ii.) correcting any global formulas to take account of this data.

This is already possible using so called multidimensional spreadsheets. A good
account on the history of multidimensional software can be found at:
http://www.olapreport.com/origins.htm.

B.1. CONCEPT
What is the concept of multidimensional software?

The data is split into multiple dimensions. Basically, in this simple scenario,
we have 2 dimensions: one describing the revenues, and the other the time
(basically the months). When we add data for a new month, basically we extend
the time dimension with one month. All formulas applying to monthly data, will
apply to this new month as well. The global formulas will similarly consider the
values for the new month.


C. UTILITY
==

So, what is the utility of this software. There are many use cases. Please note,
that this is a feature most useful in high-end and professional settings. It is
likely that casual spreadsheet users (like most home users) won't benefit from
this feature. This is why I advocate splitting the spreadsheet application into
2 separate entities:
 I.) a general canvas/table/grid-formatting program (this is what most home
users do most of the time – only minor spreadsheet functionality needed –
current spreadsheets fail miserably at this point), and
II.) a professional multidimensional spreadsheet module.
(I will deal with this splitting requisite in a future issue – for a glimpse of
this requirement, you could read further details on the wiki page:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/User_Experience/Grand_Concept#Calc
but please note that this is work in progress and not ready yet for further
discussions).

The utility resides in corporate environments where complex spreadsheets are in
use. Adding new dimensions to a spreadsheet is a rather cumbersome process, and
one very error prone and hard to debug. Most users will simply copy some old
formula columns to their new destination, and will try to correct the resulting
formulas, but this generates a lot of hard to detect errors. Also, this process
becomes significantly more complex with more than 2 dimensions. In our simple
example, we had only 2 dimension (revenues vs time). But complex spreadsheets
may contain a lot more dimensions: items sold, sales revenues, time, world
region, OR to give another example from life sciences: study centre, time,
visit-number, various physiologic parameters, and outcome data.

Therefore, a multidimensional model would make life so 

[sc-issues] [Issue 85825] Multidimensional Spreadshe ets and OLAP Functionality

2008-02-03 Thread discoleo
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Feb  3 19:28:28 + 
2008 ---
In my first post, I forgot to add useful links to existing aplications. A good
way to start is to Google for multidimensional spreadsheets.

See e.g.:
OLAP Report: http://www.olapreport.com/origins.htm
Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_spreadsheets#Multi-Dimensional_spreadsheets
QUANTRIX: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantrix_Modeler
   including
   http://www.cfo.com/article.cfm/5347966/2/c_5350503?f=home_featured
ANALYTICA: http://www.lumina.com/ana/whatisanalytica.htm

One of the most useful features of multidimensional spreadsheets, is the
separation of formulas from the actual spreadsheet's data. This was probably not
as clear in my first post.

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