[sw-issues] [Issue 107331] [CWS printerpullpages] Sh ow actual paper size near preview
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=107331 User hi changed the following: What|Old value |New value Status|RESOLVED |VERIFIED --- Additional comments from h...@openoffice.org Tue Nov 2 10:56:28 + 2010 --- Verified with vcl116 = ok - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@sw.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@sw.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[sw-issues] [Issue 107331] [CWS printerpullpages] Sh ow actual paper size near preview
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=107331 User pl changed the following: What|Old value |New value Assigned to|pl|hi --- Additional comments from p...@openoffice.org Tue Oct 26 16:17:23 + 2010 --- please verify in CWS vcl116 - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@sw.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@sw.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[sw-issues] [Issue 107331] [CWS printerpullpages] Sh ow actual paper size near preview
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=107331 User pl changed the following: What|Old value |New value Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |FIXED Target milestone|OOo 3.x |OOo 3.4 --- Additional comments from p...@openoffice.org Tue Oct 12 15:05:17 + 2010 --- Implemented regina's sample; left and above the print preview now the paper dimensions of the "assumed" paper (that which the printer driver tells us) are shown fixed in CWS vcl116 - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@sw.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@sw.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[sw-issues] [Issue 107331] [CWS printerpullpages] Sh ow actual paper size near preview
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=107331 User pl changed the following: What|Old value |New value Target milestone|OOo 3.3 |OOo 3.x --- Additional comments from p...@openoffice.org Thu May 6 14:41:15 + 2010 --- So there is no consensus after all. Ok. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@sw.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@sw.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[sw-issues] [Issue 107331] [CWS printerpullpages] Sh ow actual paper size near preview
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=107331 --- Additional comments from reg...@openoffice.org Thu May 6 13:47:44 + 2010 --- regina -->PL: The issue is not about "not available", but about the fact, that OOo actually assumes the size of the sheet of paper for its printing calculations, but the user does not know, what size is assumed. Therefore simple write it in the kind of Assumed size of sheet of paper (height x width) 210 mm x 297 mm = DIN A4 as my last comment of 25 February 2010 (UTC) in http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Printerpullpages/Idea_Collection Best for me would be a fixed place. It is no alert, but an information that should be always visible. If OOo assumes a size of the sheet of paper depending on the actual document part, the values should correspond to the document part shown in the preview, and change, when moving the preview to another part of the document. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@sw.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@sw.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[sw-issues] [Issue 107331] [CWS printerpullpages] Sh ow actual paper size near preview
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=107331 --- Additional comments from p...@openoffice.org Thu May 6 13:07:22 + 2010 --- We could still do something for 3.3. here; only we'd have to define what. From the discussion in the wiki link I think we agree on the "little yellow" alert kind of window. We'd just need the details fixed: - will this be a yellow window always or (preferably) painted the same way a tool tip would (making this matching the theme) ? In the latter case you would possibly get a border around the window (depending on the theme). - what would be the text ? I'd vote for "The paper format (<210mm x 297mm>) is not available. Paper (<275mm x 279mm>) will be used" where of course the things in <> will be replaced by actual values. - someone would have to paint the image if there was to be one, once normal and once in high contrast black mode. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@sw.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@sw.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[sw-issues] [Issue 107331] [CWS printerpullpages] Sh ow actual paper size near preview
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=107331 --- Additional comments from reg...@openoffice.org Thu Feb 25 21:41:18 + 2010 --- I have added a comment to http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Printerpullpages/Idea_Collection with a string proposal. "if there are more pressing concerns": yes, there are i105299, i105067 and i105434. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@sw.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@sw.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[sw-issues] [Issue 107331] [CWS printerpullpages] Sh ow actual paper size near preview
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=107331 --- Additional comments from p...@openoffice.org Tue Feb 16 08:23:02 + 2010 --- For coding I don't need a full spec, but I'd need some consensus how this should look like - at the moment I don't know that. Feature freeze is middle of march (I could be more precise if the wiki release pages would load), at which point this would have to have passed QA and be integrated. However this is a not a mission critical feature, so I have no problem with delaying this change to 3.4 if there are more pressing concerns. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@sw.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@sw.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[sw-issues] [Issue 107331] [CWS printerpullpages] Sh ow actual paper size near preview
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=107331 --- Additional comments from christophno...@openoffice.org Mon Feb 15 22:57:55 + 2010 --- christophnoack --> PL: Sorry, I wasn't aware of that you are waiting for a spec. When is the deadline for a rather complete spec for 3.3? I'm asking because some of the CC topics compete with printing at the moment... Thank you & bye! Christoph - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@sw.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@sw.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[sw-issues] [Issue 107331] [CWS printerpullpages] Sh ow actual paper size near preview
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=107331 --- Additional comments from p...@openoffice.org Fri Feb 12 13:21:18 + 2010 --- feature freeze for 3.3 draws close now. If there is no final spec soon, this will have to wait for a later release. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@sw.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@sw.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[sw-issues] [Issue 107331] [CWS printerpullpages] Sh ow actual paper size near preview
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=107331 --- Additional comments from p...@openoffice.org Tue Dec 8 09:37:39 + 2009 --- Printer drivers do pretty much as they wish, so if we don't request a specific paper size, they'll do whatever they see fit. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@sw.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@sw.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[sw-issues] [Issue 107331] [CWS printerpullpages] Sh ow actual paper size near preview
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=107331 --- Additional comments from christophno...@openoffice.org Mon Dec 7 22:09:11 + 2009 --- @Regina: As always I'm quite happy with your great explanations. But, I don't know whether the new proposals are better. I had a look at Gnome and they do have less space restrictions and a second tab (for special settings and thus more experienced users): they use a proposal similar to your first one. Besides that I like the idea (especially the re-usable message area approach), the main problem seems to be the weird behavior of the printer driver. Maybe we should have a look at the OOo-PrinterDriver-communication first. What do you think? @PL: Do you have any experience / knowledge how printer drivers pick settings based on document settings? - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@sw.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@sw.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[sw-issues] [Issue 107331] [CWS printerpullpages] Sh ow actual paper size near preview
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=107331 --- Additional comments from reg...@openoffice.org Sun Dec 6 22:49:56 + 2009 --- Both suggestions are suitable for the purpose and better than my suggestions. @christophnoack ->1) Yes "Fit to page" is a setting in my printer properties. I had not set it manually, but it was set without my knowing. I do not know, whether OOo sets it. ->2) I do not know, where the setting "letter" comes from. I had not set it manually. ->3) The point is, that the user sets a page size in Format > Page and do not use printer properties at all. The printer uses some paper sheet size automatically (I don't know from where) and the user does not know this size unless he looks into the printer properties. The problems occur for me when not using standard A4 in page size, but other formats like envelopes or user defined formats. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@sw.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@sw.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[sw-issues] [Issue 107331] [CWS printerpullpages] Sh ow actual paper size near preview
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=107331 --- Additional comments from christophno...@openoffice.org Sun Dec 6 19:47:57 + 2009 --- Hi all! I've added two more proposals on the already introduced wiki page. Again, the link for your convenience: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Printerpullpages/Idea_Collection - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@sw.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@sw.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[sw-issues] [Issue 107331] [CWS printerpullpages] Sh ow actual paper size near preview
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=107331 --- Additional comments from christophno...@openoffice.org Thu Dec 3 23:54:49 + 2009 --- Hi Regina, hi Philipp! My initial impressions: * I don't really get the point :-) * I had a look at the Adobe Acrobat and I think that it is a rather technical dialog and requires much space... * Showing the size does only help if people use the same settings throughout the whole document, otherwise they have to scan all pages manually. That doesn't help them. * The real sizes are not that helpful (e.g. when showing them besides the document page) if people are unable to judge the sizes. How many people do really know the size (+/- 2 cm) of DIN ISO A4? 5%? Less? :-) * How does it relate to the size settings in Draw/Impress? It seems that those settings already address some of the issues page vs. page setting. However, just to get the point... If the page size settings from the printer differ from the page settings of the document, then user wishes that the system prevents wrong printout. Some questions with regard to the problems: 1) Where do you set "Fit to Page"? Is that a printer setting? 2) Why does that happen? Why does your printer use "Letter"? 3) When does that happen? I'm sorry, I don't get the point why different settings are manually entered by the user. At least it seems so. I have some additional idea in mind how to solve that. But first I would like to better understand that - even on UX discuss if it seems better suited. But, thank you very much Regina for your ideas and mockups. It's so easy to ask / criticize, because you already provided so much material. Thanks! - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@sw.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@sw.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[sw-issues] [Issue 107331] [CWS printerpullpages] Sh ow actual paper size near preview
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=107331 --- Additional comments from reg...@openoffice.org Wed Dec 2 00:03:08 + 2009 --- Please see two proposals on http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Printerpullpages/Idea_Collection - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@sw.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@sw.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[sw-issues] [Issue 107331] [CWS printerpullpages] Sh ow actual paper size near preview
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=107331 User pl changed the following: What|Old value |New value Ever confirmed| |1 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW OS/Version|Windows XP|All Target milestone|not determined|OOo 3.3 --- Additional comments from p...@openoffice.org Tue Dec 1 17:06:24 + 2009 --- there is no question about the feasibility; just tell me where to put it. In the debug version the page format already comes up as a tooltip. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@sw.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@sw.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[sw-issues] [Issue 107331] [CWS printerpullpages] Sh ow actual paper size near preview
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=107331 User mru changed the following: What|Old value |New value Assigned to|writerneedsconfirm|pl Target milestone|--- |not determined --- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Tue Dec 1 15:39:05 + 2009 --- Reassigned to PL for evaluation of technical practicability. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@sw.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@sw.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[sw-issues] [Issue 107331] [CWS printerpullpages] Sh ow actual paper size near preview
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=107331 Issue #|107331 Summary|[CWS printerpullpages] Show actual paper size near pre |view Component|Word processor Version|DEV300m61 Platform|PC URL| OS/Version|Windows XP Status|UNCONFIRMED Status whiteboard| Keywords| Resolution| Issue type|ENHANCEMENT Priority|P3 Subcomponent|printing Assigned to|writerneedsconfirm Reported by|regina --- Additional comments from reg...@openoffice.org Mon Nov 30 18:39:22 + 2009 --- If the user prints objects, which have set unusual size in the page layout, the paper sheet size, which the printer uses (set by OOo?) might be very surprising. I'll list some examples from my printer HP Color LaserJet on WinXP. It is a typical small business printer, which has a tray for DinA4 and a single sheet feed. 1. Writer document with page A3 portrait. Printer uses A4 with additional setting "Fit to Page". The user can only notice, that he has used a wrong page size, if he notices in the preview, that the text lines are to long. 2. Writer document with page width=10,5cm height=7,4cm (=DinA7), landscape Printer uses "Letter", although my local is "Germany". The user cannot see in the preview, that it is "Letter", because the preview is to small to show the difference. 3. Writer document with page width=20cm height=10cm, landscape Printer uses "Umschlag Monarch" (Umschlag=envelope) with width 190mm, height 98mm The user expects, that a supported format is used, that is large enough to contain the whole page. The preview is to small to show that 1cm are missing. For a better solution have a look at the Acrobat Reader printing dialog: * It shows the actual page size as measure lines at the edges of the preview. * It shoes the paper sheet in gray in the preview and therein the document page in white. * It shows both paper sheet size and document page size as text beneath the preview. There is enough place above the preview to show at least the paper sheet size. (Paper sheet size is the more important information, because the user should know the page size of his document, but does not know, which paper sheet size is set.) Please add such information. Currently I _always_ have to enter the properties to make sure the paper size is set correctly. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@sw.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@sw.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
