[sw-issues] [Issue 108787] Paragraph menu should say 'typeface' where it currently says 'font'

2010-02-03 Thread mru
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What|Old value |New value

  Status|REOPENED  |RESOLVED

  Resolution|  |WONTFIX





--- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Wed Feb  3 08:09:48 + 
2010 ---
You did never name even ONE reasong or argument WHY to change this here.
As I said, we are building a Word Processor, not a DTP. Font is more logic to
the majority of users than typeface.

I did not want to excuse it with Microsoft. But: by time, Font became an
industry standard not only defined by MS but also by early StarWriter, AmiPro,
wordPerfect, Symphony and so on...

Also, get out of the way is not a way of comminicating friendly with people
giving you software for free.

We have defined this wording here for our product and it won't be changed at
all. And of course this is not DEFECT.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 108787] Paragraph menu should say 'typeface' where it currently says 'font'

2010-02-03 Thread mru
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  Status|RESOLVED  |CLOSED





--- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Wed Feb  3 08:10:30 + 
2010 ---
Closing duplicate.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 108787] Paragraph menu should say 'typeface' where it currently says 'font'

2010-02-03 Thread larsnooden
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What|Old value |New value

  Status|CLOSED|REOPENED

  Resolution|WONTFIX   |





--- Additional comments from larsnoo...@openoffice.org Wed Feb  3 08:30:00 
+ 2010 ---
@mru : blocking for the sake of blocking is 'not very friendly' for those
debugging the software as was the initial offhand dismissal of the defect.  

Copying others mistakes is not necessary.  The term 'font' as it is used in the
menu is incorrect confusing.  I know of no obligation to copy or perpetuate
incorrect menus.  




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[sw-issues] [Issue 108787] Paragraph menu should say 'typeface' where it currently says 'font'

2010-02-03 Thread larsnooden
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--- Additional comments from larsnoo...@openoffice.org Wed Feb  3 08:56:48 
+ 2010 ---
mru, I'm glad you brought up AmiPro and WordPerfect and that the misuse of the
term 'font' now comes from more correct use back then.  While I have used
WordPerfect and even helped teach it a *very* long time ago, I never actually
like the interface.  AmiPro was quite nice from what I remember.  Older WP's
like WordStar and Electric Pen didn't even mention 'font'

I mention 'font' there, because back then it really was *font*.  You could do
some modifications like bold, underline or strikethrough, but you were stuck
with the font on the daisywheel or selectric ball until it was physically
changed.  Some of the early laser printers had similar limitations, and actual
*fonts* had to be loaded sometimes through physical cartridges.  

However, it's been ages and ages since those problems and most users even if
they were around then have long since forgotten.  Typefaces have been available
as a separate choice for a very long time and regardless of long or short
history, it is a list of typefaces that the menu in OOo is presenting the user. 
 


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[sw-issues] [Issue 108787] Paragraph menu should say 'typeface' where it currently says 'font'

2010-02-02 Thread mru
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  Status|REOPENED  |RESOLVED

  Resolution|  |INVALID





--- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Tue Feb  2 13:22:50 + 
2010 ---
Yes, it is right, that the entry is Font - but why do you think that this is
incorrect???
When you put mouse on Font entry of the context menu, all available Fonts will
be listed, not the typefaces... and that is correct.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 108787] Paragraph menu should say 'typeface' where it currently says 'font'

2010-02-02 Thread mru
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  Status|RESOLVED  |CLOSED





--- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Tue Feb  2 13:23:28 + 
2010 ---
Closed, the entry is and works correctly.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 108787] Paragraph menu should say 'typeface' where it currently says 'font'

2010-02-02 Thread larsnooden
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  Status|CLOSED|REOPENED

  Resolution|INVALID   |





--- Additional comments from larsnoo...@openoffice.org Tue Feb  2 13:30:20 
+ 2010 ---
mru: please leave this issue alone, since it is not a FreeBSD issue.

The label 'font' very clearly goes to a list of typefaces on the several
versions of OOO on several operating systems, at least for the English-US
versions.  

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[sw-issues] [Issue 108787] Paragraph menu should say 'typeface' where it currently says 'font'

2010-02-02 Thread mru
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--- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Tue Feb  2 14:26:45 + 
2010 ---
I do not know where you got you OOo build from, but I have checked now with
different Systems (Mac OSX, WinXP, Linux, Solaris) with en-US builds of OOo
3.1.1 and 3.2rc4 and all show the second entry of the context menu Font
heading to a list of available fonts, not any type face.
Please attach a screenshot showing your problem.
Are you sure, that you are using OOo downloaded from this site (or its mirrors)?

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[sw-issues] [Issue 108787] Paragraph menu should say 'typeface' where it currently says 'font'

2010-02-02 Thread larsnooden
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--- Additional comments from larsnoo...@openoffice.org Tue Feb  2 15:04:31 
+ 2010 ---
Created an attachment (id=67533)
Typefaces in menu


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[sw-issues] [Issue 108787] Paragraph menu should say 'typeface' where it currently says 'font'

2010-02-02 Thread larsnooden
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--- Additional comments from larsnoo...@openoffice.org Tue Feb  2 15:06:47 
+ 2010 ---
OOo was downloaded from this page:
http://download.openoffice.org/all_rc.html#untested-full

See attached for screen shot showing list of typefaces under the label 'Font'.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 108787] Paragraph menu should say 'typeface' where it currently says 'font'

2010-02-02 Thread mru
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--- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Tue Feb  2 15:37:12 + 
2010 ---
Ehm, yes... os where is the problem? On your screen shot I can see exactly what
I described. The Font entry heading to the fonts. The typefaces (and others)
can be found under Style entry... Loke to be seen in Format.Character.Font
dialog tab.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 108787] Paragraph menu should say 'typeface' where it currently says 'font'

2010-02-02 Thread larsnooden
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--- Additional comments from larsnoo...@openoffice.org Tue Feb  2 16:00:33 
+ 2010 ---
Yes, the context of style could be made more clear, too, but that's for a
different bug.  

Take a look at the menu.  You get it by using the right button (if you have not
made a left-handed mouse) while hovering over a paragraph in Writer.  

The menu you get has what's shown in the screen shot, a list of types
mislabelled as 'Font' : 

+ default formatting
 - - - - -
+ font [which shows typefaces]
+ size
+ style
+ alignment
+ line spacing
 - - - - -
character...
paragraph...
page...
Numbering/Bullets...
Case/Characters...
 - - - - -
Edit paragraph style


Please change the English label to 'Typeface' from 'Font' in that second item on
the list.  

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[sw-issues] [Issue 108787] Paragraph menu should say 'typeface' where it currently says 'font'

2010-02-02 Thread mru
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What|Old value |New value

  Status|REOPENED  |RESOLVED

  Resolution|  |WONTFIX





--- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Tue Feb  2 16:33:59 + 
2010 ---
I know which menu you are talking about... but I do not see any reason to change
the string Font to Typeface. You may be somehow right when talking about
tape and printing profession. But in word processors users are more used to the
vocable Font when selecting a special font.
Thus both most used word processors in the world use the word Font here. And
it won't be changed at all.
Remember: it is word processing, not DTP.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 108787] Paragraph menu should say 'typeface' where it currently says 'font'

2010-02-02 Thread mru
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  Status|RESOLVED  |CLOSED





--- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Tue Feb  2 16:35:34 + 
2010 ---
Closed, the word is correct in Word processors thus it won't be changed at all.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 108787] Paragraph menu should say 'typeface' where it currently says 'font'

2010-02-02 Thread larsnooden
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What|Old value |New value

  Status|CLOSED|REOPENED

  Resolution|WONTFIX   |





--- Additional comments from larsnoo...@openoffice.org Tue Feb  2 16:39:52 
+ 2010 ---
@mru : please get out of the way.  The excuse Microsoft does it this way
doesn't cut it.

Either 'type' or 'typeface' is fine.  

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[sw-issues] [Issue 108787] Paragraph menu should say 'typeface' where it currently says 'font'

2010-02-01 Thread mru
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What|Old value |New value

  Status|NEW   |RESOLVED

  OS/Version|other |FreeBSD

  Resolution|  |INVALID





--- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Mon Feb  1 09:45:20 + 
2010 ---
This problem is not available in the official build of OOo. Please refer to the
distributor of the OpenBSD build of OOo.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 108787] Paragraph menu should say 'typeface' where it currently says 'font'

2010-02-01 Thread mru
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  Status|RESOLVED  |CLOSED





--- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Mon Feb  1 09:45:48 + 
2010 ---
Closed.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 108787] Paragraph menu should say 'typeface' where it currently says 'font'

2010-02-01 Thread larsnooden
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What|Old value |New value

  Status|CLOSED|REOPENED

  OS/Version|FreeBSD   |Mac OS X

  Resolution|INVALID   |

 Version|OOo 3.1   |OOo 3.2 RC4





--- Additional comments from larsnoo...@openoffice.org Mon Feb  1 19:16:37 
+ 2010 ---
mru, the OS was *not* FreeBSD, but OpenBSD.  The error, if you have OOo on your
system can be verified.   IF you need a different OS, then I can point out that
the problem still exists on Mac OS X 10.5 with OpenOffice.org 3.1.1 OOO310m19
(Build:9420)

Again, the steps take 2 seconds to verify:

1.  open writer
2.  right click on a paragraph

There will be second from the top, the label 'font' which should read 'typeface'
instead

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[sw-issues] [Issue 108787] Paragraph menu should say 'typeface' where it currently says 'font'

2010-01-30 Thread larsnooden
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 Issue #|108787
 Summary|Paragraph menu should say 'typeface' where it currentl
|y says 'font'
   Component|Word processor
 Version|OOo 3.1
Platform|Other
 URL|
  OS/Version|other
  Status|NEW
   Status whiteboard|
Keywords|
  Resolution|
  Issue type|DEFECT
Priority|P3
Subcomponent|ui
 Assigned to|writerneedsconfirm
 Reported by|larsnooden





--- Additional comments from larsnoo...@openoffice.org Sat Jan 30 13:27:33 
+ 2010 ---
In Writer, for OOo 3.1.0 build 9399, on OpenBSD 4.6, one can 'right-click' with
the mouse on a paragraph and see an editing menu.  At second from the top of the
menu is the label 'Font' which brings up a list of typefaces.  For both clarity
and to avoid confusion, this submenu of typefaces would be much better off with
the label 'typefaces' rather than 'fonts'

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