[sw-issues] [Issue 4914] normal view option neede d
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4914 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Mar 19 05:01:48 -0800 2006 --- I'd consider Normal-like mode a basic feature in a word processor. Sad to see that this, as well as some other badly needed features, are still not implemented. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[sw-issues] [Issue 4914] normal view option neede d
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4914 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Mar 13 15:04:06 -0800 2006 --- *** Issue 63048 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. *** - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[sw-issues] [Issue 4914] normal view option neede d
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4914 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Mar 13 15:37:35 -0800 2006 --- I'd like to chime in to ask for a normal view, it's very much needed. Incidently another reason web view isn't a good alternative is because it has a maximum page height (like 40 A4 pages) and breaks pages if a document crosses that threshold. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[sw-issues] [Issue 4914] normal view option neede d
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4914 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Feb 3 06:59:23 -0800 2006 --- Web Layout is useful, but since there is no option to view and edit the text body and your footnotes at the same time, it is rather useless if you have to use footnotes. So I concur with the request for having something similar to normal view. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[sw-issues] [Issue 4914] normal view option neede d
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4914 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Feb 3 07:35:51 -0800 2006 --- Although I am not sure about the collective whim I concur with rsearjeant that it would be good to know what the reasons against implementing this feature are. Regarding the roadmap I am lost as well, since the only one I can find under http://development.openoffice.org/releases/ is, ehm, rather outdated... - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[sw-issues] [Issue 4914] normal view option neede d
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4914 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Nov 13 10:27:04 -0800 2005 --- As the originator, I wanted to point out a mitigating feature in OO.o 2.0 . If you select WebLayout the page view is rather close to NormalView. What I don't know is what other things happen in WebLayout view that I wouldn't want to see. Neither view converts html tags... Anyone else know what WebLayout does? I haven't played w/ multi-column text yet. The only thing I found so far is that neither automatic nor manual page breaks are indicated on the screen. But at least this view does provide a continuous page (headers, footers, blank space not shown). - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[sw-issues] [Issue 4914] normal view option neede d
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4914 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Nov 13 17:03:45 -0800 2005 --- The problem with WebLayout is of course the lack of page breaks, but much more importantly, the lack of *page numbering* of any kind. This makes it pretty much useless for a copy editor, translator, etc. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[sw-issues] [Issue 4914] normal view option neede d
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4914 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Nov 13 18:00:31 -0800 2005 --- An addition problem, not solved by Web Layout, is that if the text is formatted in columns, then the text is shown in columns and there's no way to read it in single column format--which is much easier (you don't have to go back up to the top of the page when you get to the bottom of the first column). Of course one could change the actual layout of the file to single column, but that is unproductive in many cases. MS Word Normal layout shows the text in a single column regardless of the page layout, which makes it much easier to read and work on documents. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[sw-issues] [Issue 4914] normal view option neede d
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4914 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Oct 24 19:16:55 -0700 2005 --- I want to use OOo, I really do. And version 2.0 has nearly convinced me. But I start to lose hope when I find such basic functionality as this missing. Actually, my preferred solution is the Hide/show white space feature that has recently been implemented in MS Word. That way you get the best of both worlds by combining elements of the 'print' and 'normal' views. I really hope this issue is resolved soon, since it might just bug me enough to make me return to MS Word once again. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[sw-issues] [Issue 4914] normal view option neede d
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4914 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Oct 24 19:53:22 -0700 2005 --- In WordPerfect this is called Draft view. the better part of WP version compared to Word is that in WP pictures are shown in Draft/Normal mode. I find it terribly disconcerting to have the text broken apart due to the bottom of the page. I don't see why anyone would ever need to see the Page layout until the very end. A word processor should put the items exactly where you expect. dshumake - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[sw-issues] [Issue 4914] normal view option neede d
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4914 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Oct 10 04:09:24 -0700 2005 --- Hear, hear! I am new to OOo but immediately realized that a MS Word-like Normal option is definitely needed for document composing! (In fact, i notice this issue was brought up 2 years ago, and it is incomprehensible to me that it is still unresolved - ) Cheers - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[sw-issues] [Issue 4914] normal view option neede d
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4914 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Oct 10 05:35:34 -0700 2005 --- Antigenic: I've given up hope. I've returned to using MS Word. I'll keep an eye on Writer's progress, but unless there are major changes in direction, I doubt I'll participate any more with testing OOo. OOo Writer could so easily be every bit as good as (perhaps even better than) Word, but there just doesn't seem to be a strong enough will to achieve that. The OOo project direction is vague and apparently unfocussed. I've found it impossible to understand how priorities are set (who sets them, and how?) and the Issue List just seems to be a sort of /dev/null sink for community comments. The 2.0 release, though better in some detailed ways, simply isn't the significant leap forward claimed by the OOo propaganda. They are completely schizophrenic when it comes to MS Office: why can't implementing 'Normal View' be as important as implementing (or apeing) things like 'Styles and Formatting' or Word's Drawing toolbar (even down to its default location). Sorry for this rant. I'm sure the OOo apparatchiks will chide me for this, possibly even remove this comment, but I don't care any longer. The question is, do they really want to improve this thing? - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[sw-issues] [Issue 4914] normal view option neede d
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4914 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Oct 10 07:20:29 -0700 2005 --- I concur. And myself, being a translator (=text), I simply will not be using OOo without a view amenable to easy text scrolling, i.e. Normal view. I would add that, even more than do they want to improve OOo, the bottom line is *do they want people migrating over*? That cannot happen unless certain user-noted crucial features are included. (For example, another issue that has also apparently been shelved or ignored was saving MS Word files with password protection (although MS password-protected files can be opened). Well, too many potential users will never cross over because they absolutely need to save password-protected Word files for clients. Forget any other features.) For you, me and others on this issue list, the need for a convenient viewing method is essential enough to preclude switching over, and so that's another large group of lost users. You would think that would make it a high priority for developers...? - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[sw-issues] [Issue 4914] normal view option neede d
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4914 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Oct 8 06:16:38 -0700 2005 --- *** Issue 51471 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. *** - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[sw-issues] [Issue 4914] normal view option neede d
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4914 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Oct 8 06:18:27 -0700 2005 --- *** Issue 55608 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. *** - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[sw-issues] [Issue 4914] normal view option neede d
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4914 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Sep 16 16:42:28 -0700 2005 --- Aside from adding my voice to the request for this feature, I would like to agree and disagree with BobHarvey and RSeargeant. Word is not the only program to implement this feature; it is a standard component of wp/dtp. In WordPerfect, which I used from v. 4.2 to 8, I think it was called Default Mode -- not terribly descriptive, but no less so than MSWord's ubiquitous Normal this and Normal that. Quark and PageMaker and, now, Scribus, different beasts entirely, also provide a means of editing a continuous flow of text even if it stradles/jumps many pages and is linked through umpteen text boxes (I believe the feature is called something like Edit Story). The need is present and the examples numerous. Even Abiword has got it implemented - though they've chosen to imitate Word to the letter. We therefore most certainly do not have to ape Word. Simply provide a well-thought-out implementation of the functionality, give it a name that makes sense (something along the lines of Text-Flow Edit is my humble suggestion), and people for whom it matters will not look back. I work as a translator and can spend hours on end editing/proofreading in OOo... I would dearly, dearly love this feature to be implemented. BTW, this Normal view makes the application more responsive as it doesn't have to work so hard on displaying layout - that, at least, was my experience of it in WP. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[sw-issues] [Issue 4914] normal view option neede d
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4914 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Sep 13 09:25:58 -0700 2005 --- Me 30. Just switched, but it's tough to concentrate on long documents when your eyes have to switch between pages. I don't need anything but this to be a happy camper. For me, the key things to cut out are the page margins and page-gaps: everything else should be shown. Page breaks can be shown as a dotted line (as in Word). The rest of the content should be rendered normally. That would do as a minimal spec. yes! - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[sw-issues] [Issue 4914] normal view option neede d
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4914 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jul 26 13:19:08 -0700 2005 --- I've been trying to convert my wife to OOo for some time now. Her only complaint is the page layout view. As a novalist, she is distracted by the page borders and wants to see a continuous workspace to let her ideas flow. We would love to see this added to OOo soon. Thank you! - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[sw-issues] [Issue 4914] normal view option neede d
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4914 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jul 25 09:05:52 -0700 2005 --- This is a really important feature. My wife has asked me three times to install Word on our Linux box because she hates working in page mode. And so do I. When you need to concentrate on the content rather than the presentation, something like the normal view in Word is dramatically more effective. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[sw-issues] [Issue 4914] normal view option neede d
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4914 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Jul 6 01:10:00 -0700 2005 --- I don't feel this is an important thing to copy from word on an as-is basis. But there is a strong case for a 'Body text only' editing view which has a lot in common with the much-vaunted 'normal' view. The elimination of headers and footers and the grey space is a very good idea, and dealing with illustrations - I would not suppress them entirely, but replace them with an icon at their anchor place. I would also suggest that the display of formatting of headers etc. is simplified (limiting representation of space above, for example, limiting font size) to ensure the maximum amount of text can be fitted on the screen. We need product differentiation though. It would be interesting to offer a floating preview of the page view to accompany the body-text-only view. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[sw-issues] [Issue 4914] normal view option neede d
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4914 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Jul 6 04:51:25 -0700 2005 --- I'd like to reinforce my support for this issue. (I've used the maximum permissible 2 of my votes for it). I think I disagree with BobHarvery on the need to differentiate. My opinion is that 'normal view' should closely follow the Word model: we're already following (even mimicking) Word in so many other areas (e.g. 'Styles and Formatting') that differentiation for the sake of it seems a bit of a waste of time. This *is* a make/break issue for some folk, and a significant productivity and convenience issue for the rest of us, so what's the minimum acceptable spec. for this? For me, the key things to cut out are the page margins and page-gaps: everything else should be shown. Page breaks can be shown as a dotted line (as in Word). The rest of the content should be rendered normally. That would do as a minimal spec. Putting placeholders in place of diagrams or pictures would probably be a bad idea - people would be continually switching back to page layout view to see what the page would 'really' look like. Having the floating preview window is a nice idea, but I wonder about the runtime overhead of sync'ing this? Can a 'simple normal-view' which just cuts out the dead space be prototyped-up and put either into a separate download or put into the next build? Is this feature really so hard to do? What are the estimates from the developers? How do the priorities get fixed? - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[sw-issues] [Issue 4914] normal view option neede d
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4914 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jul 5 16:10:19 -0700 2005 --- This is THE make-or-break issue that might cause me to stop using OOo Writer. Page Layout view is fine for a one-page document such as a letter, or when I'm ready to print a multipage document; but 90% of the time I am working on a draft text, and the formatting just gets in the way. Specific issues: 1) I work with long documents and find it very distracting to have huge breaks between pages, which typically do not represent logical divisions of the text. 2) Some docs I work with have just a few lines of text per page--in page layout view, this means I can only see a few lines on the entire screen! Normal view would allow me to see multiple short pages on a single screen. 3) The page breaks and blank borders waste a significant amount of space on the screen. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
