[sw-issues] [Issue 5004] Printing Size wrong (A4->L etter)

2005-09-23 Thread ringerc
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Sep 23 23:30:34 -0700 
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I work in DTP, so I know where you're coming from. On the other hand, I'm also
aware that much of the time, a 5% size change won't affect users in the
slightest. It's not something that should be done silently, though, I agree.

My real issue with all this is that it shouldn't be OO.o's problem. Really, the
*printer* needs to be given the option of policy settings on this, such as "crop
and print", "scale and print", "prompt", "reject job", etc.

This issue will crop up most in OO.o though, due to how common the
misconfiguration of Word is.

As such, maybe it's worth considering - as an RFE - a few options in prefs for
printing Letter (or A4, in Letter locales).

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[sw-issues] [Issue 5004] Printing Size wrong (A4->L etter)

2005-09-23 Thread udippel
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Sep 23 09:10:06 -0700 
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In my opinion, "reassigned as RFE "Ignoring document printer settings as
optional application setting"" would have been the right thing to do.

I know that we can't change dumbness; and especially on WORD somehow everyone
seems to craft 'Letter', even in countries where you can hardly buy that format.
I don't remember which other apps I had in mind 3 years ago, but my own, 2 sen,
personal preference is still to prevent auto-rescaling. ft writes correctly: "We
cannot just alter the document format." Right. And when you auto-scale, this is
what you do; though ft perceives this just the other way round.
I maintain that I'd like to have a knob to let the printer print what is on the
softcopy from the upper left corner of the document 1:1. If the printout extends
too far to the right, bad luck. If the last 3 cm remain forcibly empty, another
one bad luck. A document set up with fixed margins, font size, for me and in
here needs to come out with exactly these margins and this font; even though it
prints beyond the paper. I couldn't care less. We prescribe precise margins and
fonts; but after that auto-rescale I have too many people jumping at me that
'the printer doesn't print properly, my margins and even font size changed'.
True. I have to bash myself. Could I take a ruler and ask these dim-wits how
they want to fit their layout on 21 cm of width, *they* blush.

This is why I very much like the printer to print 1:1.

Uwe


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[sw-issues] [Issue 5004] Printing Size wrong (A4->L etter)

2005-09-22 Thread ringerc
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Sep 22 06:46:33 -0700 
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udippel, please check out issue #28248 and issue #34064 . OO.o 2 now honours
LC_PAPER (hooray!).

This bug is really different. My understanding is that it's about the fact that
the if document setup is set to Letter, and you try to print on A4, OO.o
generates a Letter job rather than scaling to fit A4.

This is especially painful because many MS Word users with inkjets and dumb
local lasers create US Letter jobs beause they don't know any better. OO.o users
with sensible printers find that they can't print them without reformatting the
page.

I still maintain that the right answer here is to proportinally scale Letter
jobs to fit on A4, and vice versa.

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