[sw-issues] [Issue 74767] After inserting a document with a picture and picture-anchor To page t wice in a new document the second picture is o n the wrong page
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=74767 User mru changed the following: What|Old value |New value Assigned to|mru |os Ever confirmed| |1 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW Target milestone|--- |OOo Later --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Feb 23 08:47:02 + 2007 --- MRU-OS: I agree with baumux. It is really not expected by the useer (and of course not intuitive) that if you have e.g. a 30 page document, insert another document at its end and all page anchored graphics from the inserted doc will be on page one of the target document. The objects should get an offset, so that they will be shared from the point of insertion. Maybe this is somehow related to issue 19131. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[sw-issues] [Issue 74767] After inserting a document with a picture and picture-anchor To page t wice in a new document the second picture is o n the wrong page
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=74767 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Feb 23 08:49:34 + 2007 --- simple question: how do you identify THIS PAGE? :-) I will take this as a No to my question if you can think of a real world use case where the current behaviour is useful. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[sw-issues] [Issue 74767] After inserting a document with a picture and picture-anchor To page t wice in a new document the second picture is o n the wrong page
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=74767 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Feb 23 09:12:22 + 2007 --- @mux2005: I asked a question to get an idea how you would identify this page. For possible use cases please read http://de.openoffice.org/servlets/BrowseList?list=devby=threadfrom=1675882 @mru/os: please be aware that this change is more complex and will bring unexpected side effects, as long as we do no rework of the functionality. E.g.: what happens if the user inserts a document at the beginning and there are existing objects anchored to a page? Should these objects also get an offset? If yes - why should this objects get an offset if a file is inserted but not if regular text is inserted? - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[sw-issues] [Issue 74767] After inserting a document with a picture and picture-anchor To page t wice in a new document the second picture is o n the wrong page
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=74767 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Feb 23 09:36:33 + 2007 --- This is getting way too technical. Let's focus on the way end users see this. OOo is a WYSIWIG word processor. When people use WYSIWIG word processors they focus on what they see. Human intuition is based on what we see. So when an end user sees 2 documents that look exactly the same he expects them to behave the same way. Where an image is anchored is not part of what you see. It's a technical detail most end users probably do not even understand completely (especially if they come from MS Word where things work differently). So I'm saying that when you have document A where everything is anchored to paragraph and document B where everything is anchored to page, and both documents look the same, then end users will expect the same behaviour when they insert them into document C. And the behaviour they expect is the behaviour that corresponds to the real world, i.e. taking a printout of one document and inserting the stack of paper into the other stack of paper at the proper position. The most important aspect of this is that the relative order of things (text, pictures,...) needs to stay the same when inserting. When I see a picture after a paragraph of text in the original document, I expect to see the picture after the paragraph of text in the merged document. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[sw-issues] [Issue 74767] After inserting a document with a picture and picture-anchor To page t wice in a new document the second picture is o n the wrong page
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=74767 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Feb 23 09:50:35 + 2007 --- @andreschnabel: The thread you linked to does not talk about use cases for inserting a document into another and having graphics jump around, just about use cases for page-anchored stuff. In fact, the postings in this thread support my position. They prove that people do use anchor to page, and none of the people who posted use anchor-to-page to achieve the effect that when they insert a document into another, the stuff gets inserted on a certain page. They all use it for a different purpose, usually to ease layouting for a single document. When concatenating documents or inserting one document into another all of those people will certainly want the intuitive behaviour. Take the guy for example who uses anchor to page for layouting of title pages. When he wants to join 2 documents created that way into one document (e.g. to send it as a single job to an online printing service), he'll definitely not want his 2 title pages overlaid on the first page. Besides, de-dev is not the proper place to find end users. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[sw-issues] [Issue 74767] After inserting a document with a picture and picture-anchor To page t wice in a new document the second picture is o n the wrong page
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=74767 User os changed the following: What|Old value |New value Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |WONTFIX --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Feb 23 11:54:37 + 2007 --- In OOo 2.0 the positioning of objects (pictures, frames etc) has been extended to enable positioning of to-paragraph and to-character-anchored objects to be located everywhere on the page. Using this feature makes the desired behave as I expect mode while inserting one document into another almost perfectly possible. This will never happen for to-page-anchored objects. The reason is that both documents are not necessarily aligned to pages. -mux2005: your point in (especially if they come from MS Word where things work differently). is invalid in this case. Word doesn't have to-page-anchored objects. Using to-page-anchored objects is _the_ typical way of StarOffice/OOo users to layout documents because in earlier versions there was no alternative way. That said, I change the resolution to wontfix - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[sw-issues] [Issue 74767] After inserting a document with a picture and picture-anchor To page t wice in a new document the second picture is o n the wrong page
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=74767 User os changed the following: What|Old value |New value Status|RESOLVED |CLOSED --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Feb 23 11:54:56 + 2007 --- . - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[sw-issues] [Issue 74767] After inserting a document with a picture and picture-anchor To page t wice in a new document the second picture is o n the wrong page
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=74767 Issue #|74767 Summary|After inserting a document with a picture and picture- |anchor To page twice in a new document the second pi |cture is on the wrong page Component|Word processor Version|OOo 2.1 Platform|All URL|http://a new document the second picture is on the wro |ng pa OS/Version|All Status|UNCONFIRMED Status whiteboard| Keywords| Resolution| Issue type|DEFECT Priority|P3 Subcomponent|open-import Assigned to|mru Reported by|baumux --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Feb 22 11:00:41 + 2007 --- 1.) Open a new Text Document: File -- New -- Text Dokument 2.) Insert the attached Document example.odt: Insert -- File -- ... example.odt 3.) Insert the attached Document again: Insert -- File -- ... example.odt After inserting the second Document the second picture isn't at the right page. It is laid over the first picture. I think in my example the second picture should be on the third page. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[sw-issues] [Issue 74767] After inserting a document with a picture and picture-anchor To page t wice in a new document the second picture is o n the wrong page
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=74767 User baumux changed the following: What|Old value |New value Attachment data| |Created an attachment (id= | |43264) Document with a pic | |ture and picture-anchor T | |o page --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Feb 22 11:03:13 + 2007 --- Created an attachment (id=43264) Document with a picture and picture-anchor To page - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[sw-issues] [Issue 74767] After inserting a document with a picture and picture-anchor To page t wice in a new document the second picture is o n the wrong page
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=74767 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Feb 22 11:13:52 + 2007 --- Sorry the second picture should be on the second page not on the third page - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[sw-issues] [Issue 74767] After inserting a document with a picture and picture-anchor To page t wice in a new document the second picture is o n the wrong page
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=74767 User andreschnabel changed the following: What|Old value |New value Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED Resolution| |INVALID --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Feb 22 11:18:16 + 2007 --- anchor to page actually achors to a page number and tells the picture / frame to stay exactly at this page number. So anchor to page 2 - insert a page before - picture will stay at page 2 (and not move to page 3) The same with your example: as the picture is anchored to page 1, it will always be inserted to page one. This is expected behaviour. If you like to move the picture, if content is inserted - use anchor to paragraph instead. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[sw-issues] [Issue 74767] After inserting a document with a picture and picture-anchor To page t wice in a new document the second picture is o n the wrong page
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=74767 User andreschnabel changed the following: What|Old value |New value Status|RESOLVED |CLOSED --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Feb 22 11:18:37 + 2007 --- closed - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[sw-issues] [Issue 74767] After inserting a document with a picture and picture-anchor To page t wice in a new document the second picture is o n the wrong page
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=74767 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Feb 22 18:32:27 + 2007 --- You say this is expected behaviour. It's expected behaviour for the OOo developers based on their knowledge of the current implementation. But the same goes for a lot of defects. By that reasoning even a crash bug can be closed invalid once the reason has been identified in the code, because then it's expected behaviour :-) The current Insert/File behaviour is definitely NOT expected behaviour for users, not even for developers using the UNO API. The user interface doesn't say anchor to page 1. And that would be nonsensical for the user. The user doesn't want to anchor something to page N. The user wants to anchor to THIS PAGE. And when a user chooses Insert/File to insert document X on page 3 of document Y, he expects the things on page 1 of document X to appear on page 3 of document Y. He doesn't expect some things to appear on page 3 and some things on page 1. The current behaviour is not only unexpected it's also not useful, not for the user doing insertion via GUI and not for the programmer using insertDocumentFromURL(), because the current behaviour means that if the file being inserted contains things anchored to page, the end result will be broken and needs to be fixed. Honestly, can you think of any real world use case, where the current Insert/File behaviour is what you want? I can give you a lot of use cases where the current behaviour is NOT what is wanted. Certainly the most common reason for using Insert/File is to join several documents that have been created independently (e.g. chapters of a book written by different authors) into a large document. The current behaviour of Insert/File makes a complete mess out of this use case. Want another use case? We want to implement our own form letter functionality. Of course our users expect to be able to create one big form letter document. The current behaviour of insertDocumentFromURL() means that the form letter join-document will be broken if the form letter contains anything anchored to page. And implementing fixup code is going to be difficult, because after the insertion, how do you tell which objects are new and have to be fixed up? Really, insertDocumentFromURL() should be doing the fixup. That it doesn't do so is clearly a defect. Suggesting anchor to paragraph as a workaround is also not a cure-all. There's no way to enforce this. Users WILL create stuff anchored to page and they WILL complain when this breaks their form letters. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[sw-issues] [Issue 74767] After inserting a document with a picture and picture-anchor To page t wice in a new document the second picture is o n the wrong page
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=74767 User baumux changed the following: What|Old value |New value URL|http://a new document the | |second picture is on the w| |rong pa | Status|CLOSED|UNCONFIRMED Resolution|INVALID | --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Feb 23 06:59:05 + 2007 --- reopening - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[sw-issues] [Issue 74767] After inserting a document with a picture and picture-anchor To page t wice in a new document the second picture is o n the wrong page
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=74767 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Feb 23 07:55:45 + 2007 --- simple question: how do you identify THIS PAGE? - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
