[sw-issues] [Issue 89646] Applying Paragraph styles doesn't always override language

2011-02-17 Thread matthias007
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--- Additional comments from matthias...@openoffice.org Thu Feb 17 19:30:21 
+ 2011 ---
Created an attachment (id=75866)
test text from Manfred with problem solved


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[sw-issues] [Issue 89646] Applying Paragraph styles doesn't always override language

2011-02-17 Thread matthias007
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--- Additional comments from matthias...@openoffice.org Thu Feb 17 19:28:50 
+ 2011 ---
another interesting thing is that Manfred J. Krause
of the us...@de.libreoffice.org list 16.02.2011 23:26 
was able storing a "Dokumentvorlage" Artikel_3.ott 
by first removing all text.

In a second run he started with an empty document based
on another "Standard-Dokumentvorlage". He did load all
formats from "Artikel_3.ott" and saved this as "Artikel_3_new.odt".

Then he got the whole Text from the initial "Artikel_3.odt" and
copied this to "Artikel_3_new.odt" and changed many things.

I understand that his text now works much better than mine.
But I still do not know what went wrong and how to do better.
I have written 6 texts now with together more than 1200 pages.
It would be very hard for me changing them all.  

I feel it should be clearer whats happening here.

When there is a menu point called "change language for the whole text"
this really should work. This unfortunately is not the case and its
not at all easy to understand why. 

I really would prefer having the behaviour more easy to understand.

I will attach Manfreds file for you to see. I am not able to see
a difference in the text itself.
 

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[sw-issues] [Issue 89646] Applying Paragraph styles doesn't always override language

2011-02-17 Thread matthias007
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--- Additional comments from matthias...@openoffice.org Thu Feb 17 19:08:45 
+ 2011 ---
Created an attachment (id=75864)
Test text showing problem switching language


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[sw-issues] [Issue 89646] Applying Paragraph styles doesn't always override language

2011-02-17 Thread matthias007
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--- Additional comments from matthias...@openoffice.org Thu Feb 17 19:07:03 
+ 2011 ---
I am not sure if this problem really is fixed completely well.
I now use Writer 3.3.0 OOO330m20. 
I have several texts showing the following behaviour:

1. I am able to switch language of every paragraph to english or german. No
problem using "Extras Sprache für den Absatz".
2. I am not able to switch language of the complete text using "Extras Sprache
für den gesamten Text". Its just doing nothing.

I will give an example text showing this. 

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[sw-issues] [Issue 89646] Applying Paragraph styles doesn't always override language

2010-05-14 Thread mba
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--- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Fri May 14 10:58:09 + 
2010 ---
closing duplicate

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[sw-issues] [Issue 89646] Applying Paragraph styles doesn't always override language

2010-05-14 Thread mba
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  Status|NEW   |RESOLVED

  Resolution|  |DUPLICATE





--- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Fri May 14 10:57:47 + 
2010 ---
Meanwhile we have implemented something that allows to clear the language
attribute. So for me we can set this as "duplicate" to issue 106019.

I reiterate that the "language" attribute is different to all other text
attributes as it makes sense to change the formatting of a given text, but it
does not make sense to change its language attribute (except for setting it
correctly in the first place).


*** This issue has been marked as a duplicate of 106019 ***

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[sw-issues] [Issue 89646] Applying Paragraph styles doesn't always override language

2010-05-10 Thread es
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[sw-issues] [Issue 89646] Applying Paragraph styles doesn't always override language

2009-10-27 Thread mba
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Target milestone|OOo 3.2   |OOo 3.3





--- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Tue Oct 27 13:34:08 + 
2009 ---
Obiously not fixed in 3.2

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[sw-issues] [Issue 89646] Applying Paragraph styles doesn't always override language

2009-04-16 Thread mba
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--- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Thu Apr 16 15:38:00 + 
2009 ---
Let me give the answer that Andreas didn't add:

Resetting the formatting of a text does not touch its language attribute by
intent. The language of a text is not a "formatting" as e.g. its font weight,
it's something that depends on the actual text. So if I have a French sentence
with "bold" formatting and "hard" language attribute set, removing the "hard
formatting" should indeed remove the "bold" attribute, but there is no sense in
setting the language attribute to the default value (e.g. English) also, as the
text is still in French.

For the perfectionists amongst us we perhaps should add a "set to document
default language" function, though I don't see any real practical reason for 
that.
IMHO language attributes should never have been added to any styles, they are a
kind of meta data, not a formatting attribute. 

I know that people use it to have language dependent styles but this is just a
hack because we don't have conditional styles like that and so people use that
trick as a workaround. It doesn't make it right.

So currently I can't give a hint how we will solve that, we're not finished yet.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 89646] Applying Paragraph styles doesn't always override language

2009-02-02 Thread mba
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--- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Mon Feb  2 13:17:33 + 
2009 ---
Taking over

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[sw-issues] [Issue 89646] Applying Paragraph styles doesn't always override language

2008-11-26 Thread ama
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Nov 26 17:17:36 + 
2008 ---
A "hard" language character attribute is not removed by "Format/Default
formatting". This has been changed. I'll guess we had a reason for this change
and I will try to find the answer...
Stay tuned!

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[sw-issues] [Issue 89646] Applying Paragraph styles doesn't always override language

2008-11-13 Thread jbfaure
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[sw-issues] [Issue 89646] Applying Paragraph styles doesn't always override language

2008-06-26 Thread es
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jun 26 15:59:45 + 
2008 ---
*** Issue 91092 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***

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[sw-issues] [Issue 89646] Applying Paragraph styles doesn't always override language

2008-06-26 Thread es
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 Assigned to|mru   |ama

  Ever confirmed|  |1

  Status|UNCONFIRMED   |NEW

Target milestone|---   |OOo 3.1





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jun 26 10:33:21 + 
2008 ---
@AMA: reproduced with the attached document. Cannot reproduce from scratch.

Resetting the formatting using "Format - Default Formatting" AND "Clear
formatting" (in the Style listbox), resets all attributes to "Default" but the
language remains "hard formatted" to an other language than the default.

To make it short: after "Format - Default Formatting" AND "Clear formatting",
Ctrl+A - The language status in the status bar should show "English (UK)" but it
shows "Multiple languages"

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[sw-issues] [Issue 89646] Applying Paragraph styles doesn't always override language

2008-05-31 Thread msandersen
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat May 31 14:22:44 + 
2008 ---
In the test document, which has a mixture of character and paragraph styles:
Select All and apply Default Formatting.
The selection still shows as Multiple Languages. Applying another Paragraph
Style like Text Body, or even a Character Style, which has the desired Language
set, still does not set the Language of the selection. Only using
Tools->Language->for Selection->English[UK] (or whichever language), or
selecting it from the bottom menu, overrides it.

If instead of using Default Formatting you apply a desired Paragraph style,
other styles are not reset, even when they are the default character style with
only manual override (as in the first paragraph). Selecting Default does not
reset all the styles to the Default style, nor the Paragraph style. Applying
character styles to the selection is inconsistent in what they change, they
don't set all the character attributes to the new style. None of it changes the
Language. 
Selecting a group with a style applied which has a specific language, then
applying another character style with a different language, the selection
retains the original language.


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[sw-issues] [Issue 89646] Applying Paragraph styles doesn't always override language

2008-05-31 Thread msandersen
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat May 31 13:55:20 + 
2008 ---
Created an attachment (id=54113)
Test Lorem ipsum document with multiple languages and styles.


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[sw-issues] [Issue 89646] Applying Paragraph styles doesn't always override language

2008-05-29 Thread mru
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu May 29 09:39:30 + 
2008 ---
CLosed.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 89646] Applying Paragraph styles doesn't always override language

2008-05-29 Thread mru
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  Resolution|  |WORKSFORME





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu May 29 09:39:07 + 
2008 ---
Works for me.
Feel free to reopen issue when a sample document to reproduce the problem could
provided.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 89646] Applying Paragraph styles doesn't always override language

2008-05-20 Thread msandersen
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue May 20 13:18:05 + 
2008 ---
Interesting. Maybe I should request that to be in the Styles palette, as a Reset
button.
Nonetheless, this does not work as described in OOo3 beta.
Language for the Default paragraph style is already UK English.
What I tried:
1. Select part of a paragraph which has Paragraph and Craracter styles I want to
change.
2. As a test, I set the Language of this selection to US English, and a few
other character characteristics like font size and style to make it obvious.
3. I select the whole paragraph and select Format->Default formatting
4. Font, typeface, and size is changed to the Default. However, language and
nothing under Indent and spacing is changed. They remain as they were, ie the
leading (linespacing), paragraph spacing before and after, etc, as well as
language, is unchanged. The whole paragraph reads as Multiple Languages.
5. Keeping the paragraph selected, I set Character style to Default and
Paragraph style to Text Body. The Paragraph Style override works, but the
character style does not. The language remains Multiple Languages, until I
either choose Tools->Language->For Paragraph->UK English (UK), or choose the
language from the bottom menu.

This is not expected behaviour.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 89646] Applying Paragraph styles doesn't always override language

2008-05-20 Thread mru
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue May 20 07:50:14 + 
2008 ---
Direct attributes applied via Format.Character dialog won't be overridden by the
settings in styles.
You should try this: In the "Default" paragraph style, set the Language to
"English UK". Then select the whole text in the document and apply menu command
"Format.Default formatting" - this should now remove all direct formating.
does tis help?

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[sw-issues] [Issue 89646] Applying Paragraph styles doesn't always override language

2008-05-19 Thread msandersen
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 Issue #|89646
 Summary|Applying Paragraph styles doesn't always override lang
|uage
   Component|Word processor
 Version|OOo 3.0 Beta
Platform|All
 URL|
  OS/Version|All
  Status|UNCONFIRMED
   Status whiteboard|
Keywords|
  Resolution|
  Issue type|DEFECT
Priority|P3
Subcomponent|formatting
 Assigned to|mru
 Reported by|msandersen





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon May 19 14:43:08 + 
2008 ---
In reformatting documents set in US English, I set Paragraph styles to UK
English, but setting Font styles to Default and applying new Paragraph styles
doesn't always override Language, often it is listed at the bottom as "Multiple
Languages", ie both US and UK English, or not changed at all.
I expect applying Default styles to remove existing styles, else for there to be
a Remove Styles button, so for instance highlighting the whole text and removing
Font Styles so nothing overrides Paragraph styles.
Selecting a new Paragraph Style I naturally expect ALL of its characteristics to
be applied. This is not always the case. Certainly, there are functions of
Writer I don't know about, but this seems the logical way for it to work.
I do know that I can highlight the Multiple Language paragraphs and apply it via
the bottom menu, but this is impractical to always check and reapply language
separately when the Paragraph style should have set everything.

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