[sw-issues] [Issue 93749] word-wise: can not extend text selection, by word, using left or right a rrow key

2008-11-17 Thread grahamperrin
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What|Old value |New value

  CC|'apieroni,bh,rollom,sba'  |'apieroni,bh,pl,rollom,sba
|  |'

 Version|OOO300m9  |OOo 3.0





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Nov 17 16:03:35 + 
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My issue 96184 (mentioned in comments) was a duplicate of broader issue 92224 
— sorry. 

Reading some of the tickets, I *suspect* that this issue 93749 is also a 
duplicate of 92224.

As 92224 is assigned to pl, so I am adding pl to the list of CCs for this issue 
93749.


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[sw-issues] [Issue 93749] word-wise: can not extend text selection, by word, using left or right a rrow key

2008-11-17 Thread es
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  Status|UNCONFIRMED   |RESOLVED

  Resolution|  |DUPLICATE





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Nov 17 16:09:27 + 
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As discussed with PL: yes, duplicate.

*** This issue has been marked as a duplicate of 92224 ***

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[sw-issues] [Issue 93749] word-wise: can not extend text selection, by word, using left or right a rrow key

2008-11-17 Thread es
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  Status|RESOLVED  |CLOSED





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Nov 17 16:09:42 + 
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Closed

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[sw-issues] [Issue 93749] word-wise: can not extend text selection, by word, using left or right a rrow key

2008-11-13 Thread grahamperrin
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Nov 13 14:37:43 + 
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See also Issue 96184 where (on Mac OS X) 
alt-shift-left 
alt-shift-right 
alt-shift-up
alt-shift-down 
_MUST NOT_ manipulate tables. 

Issue 96184 is the most likely explanation for this Issue 93749. 

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[sw-issues] [Issue 93749] word-wise: can not extend text selection, by word, using left or right a rrow key

2008-11-13 Thread sba
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  CC|'apieroni,bh,rollom'  |'apieroni,bh,rollom,sba'

 Assigned to|sba   |es





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Nov 13 19:50:51 + 
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SBA-ES: Please proceed, thx.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 93749] word-wise: can not extend text selection, by word, using left or right a rrow key

2008-11-02 Thread grahamperrin
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Target milestone|---   |OOo 3.1

 Version|OOO300m7  |OOO300m9





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Nov  3 04:54:47 + 
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I'll vote for this issue (assuming it's possible to vote for one's own report)…

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[sw-issues] [Issue 93749] word-wise: can not extend text selection, by word, using left or right a rrow key

2008-10-03 Thread rollom
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Oct  3 07:59:02 + 
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Grahamperrin,

Please, do you have an issue # for the 
'missing alt key assignment' issue?

It is issue 4756.

I expressed my view there long time ago, that only supporting the alt key (above
all on Windows machines) would give keyboard layout compatibility with Word, and
that I am convinced that only the widest keyboard compatibility possible will
avoid this not feeling quite right of our users which you mentioned, too. As
we know, most of our users switch to OOo from Word. So supporting compatible
keyboard layout is crucial for them to feel at home when using OOo and finally
for the success off OOo.

I'll be back here soon to answer your Mac question. Sitting at a PC right now...

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[sw-issues] [Issue 93749] word-wise: can not extend text selection, by word, using left or right a rrow key; a keyboard layouts issue?

2008-10-02 Thread grahamperrin
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  CC|'bh,rollom'   |'apieroni,bh,rollom'





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Oct  3 03:57:01 + 
2008 ---
 Without SHIFT:
 
 OPTION-LEFT, OPTION-RIGHT work correctly, moving the cursor
 position word-wise.
 COMMAND-LEFT, COMMAND-RIGHT also work correctly, moving the
 cursor from one end of a line to another.

Extending these behaviours (defocusing slightly from the original subject of 
this bug): 

In Apple TextEdit.app 1.5 (244), working with a single sentence paragraph that 
wraps to three lines within the window, double-click (select) a 
mid-sentence word within the second line then:

* command-shift-left then right

— effectively extends the selection … first, to the far left of that one line; 
then from the far left to the far right of that one (mid) line 
— without extending to upper or lower lines within that one-sentence paragraph.

Comparing with TextWrangler 2.3 (262), Microsoft Word 2008 and Safari 3.1.2 
(5525.20.1), all three differ from the behaviour of TextEdit. I 
sometimes prefer Apple's TextEdit as a comparator but in this new example, the 
behaviours of TextWrangler, Word and (probably most 
significantly) WebKit-based Safari do *feel* more intuitive, more consistent 
with the original subject of this bug. Here now in Safari: 

* command-shift-left then right

— effectively extends the selection … first, _from the mid-point_ to the far 
left of that one line

— then, _from the mid-point_ (NOT from the far left) to the far right of that 
one (mid) line.

= Summary =

1) I concur with apieroni. 

2) If there arises doubt about behaviour of 

* command-shift left then right

or 

* command-shift right then left

I should tend towards the examples set by Safari, TextWrangler and Word.

= Priority =

Issues such as this are not as obvious as crashes, but I realise now (after 
some years of using OpenOffice.org) that these things do nebulously 
make OOo 'not feel quite right' to seasoned users of key combinations. Before 
now, I have never pinned down that feeling. It's good now to 
pin down the inconsistencies. 

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[sw-issues] [Issue 93749] word-wise: can not extend text selection, by word, using left or right a rrow key

2008-10-02 Thread grahamperrin
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What|Old value |New value

 Summary|word-wise: can not extend |word-wise: can not extend 
|text selection, by word, u|text selection, by word, u
|sing left or right arrow k|sing left or right arrow k
|ey; a keyboard layouts iss|ey
|ue?   |





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Oct  3 04:16:45 + 
2008 ---
 Do you mean the Mac control panel and there language settings

I do mean Apple Mac OS X System Preferences.

I have no recollection of changing keyboard settings within OOo. (It's possible 
that I did so, many years ago 
whilst using earlier major versions, but I doubt it.)

 The key assignment in the OOo keyboard settings … you cannot
 assign the alt key at all there... Might be that the famous
 missing alt key assignment issue which is also there on PCs
 plays a trick on us here 

Please, do you have an issue # for the 
'missing alt key assignment' issue?

 Shift-Ctrl-Left/Right mistakenly … Shift-Alt-Left/Right

Hmm, I find now (in TextWrangler and Apple Safari compositions) that (a) 
shift-control-left and shift-alt-left 
have identical behaviours, (b) shift-control-right and shift-alt-right have 
_identical_ behaviours. 

If we are to debate 
shift-control 
behaviours, my instinct is that we should take observations to a separate 
(probably new) ticket. 

 sorry

Thank you :) but the duplication did not bother me. IMHO the different 
expressions in the summary lines will 
sometimes increase the likelihood of people finding their way to a particular 
issue. Particularly in multi-lingual 
environments.

Thanks/regards to all
Graham



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[sw-issues] [Issue 93749] word-wise: can not extend text selection, by word, using left or right a rrow key; a keyboard layouts issue?

2008-09-29 Thread apieroni
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Sep 29 12:17:37 + 
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The issue here is that on Mac OS:

SHIFT-OPTION-LEFT and SHIFT-OPTION-RIGHT should extend or reduce a selection.
This is not true in OOO300m7 Build 9354. The key combos do nothing.

On the other hand, COMMAND-SHIFT-LEFT and COMMAND-SHIFT-RIGHT *DO* extend/reduce
a selection word by word. These key combos should extend/reduce a select to the
end or beginning of a line.

Without SHIFT:

OPTION-LEFT, OPTION-RIGHT work correctly, moving the cursor position word-wise.
COMMAND-LEFT, COMMAND-RIGHT also work correctly, moving the cursor from one end
of a line to another.

This should be rectified for consistency within OOO and to conform with the
global MacOS key-command layout.

Adam

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[sw-issues] [Issue 93749] word-wise: can not extend text selection, by word, using left or right a rrow key; a keyboard layouts issue?

2008-09-29 Thread mru
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Sep 29 13:37:03 + 
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[sw-issues] [Issue 93749] word-wise: can not extend text selection, by word, using left or right a rrow key; a keyboard layouts issue?

2008-09-28 Thread grahamperrin
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What|Old value |New value

  CC|''|'mru,rollom'

 Assigned to|mru   |sba

 Summary|can not extend text select|word-wise: can not extend 
|ion, by word, using left o|text selection, by word, u
|r right arrow key |sing left or right arrow k
|  |ey; a keyboard layouts iss
|  |ue?

 Version|OOO300m5  |OOO300m7





--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Sep 28 09:17:50 + 
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Issue 94335 reported by rollom appears to be a duplicate of this issue 93749 
and as 94335 was assigned to sba so I'm 
assigning 93749, too, to sba. 

@mru:

 * At System Preferences… | International | Language 
   what does your list comprise?

 * At System Preferences… | International | Input Menu
   which language is set when for you things work as expected?

@rollom:

 * At System Preferences… | International | Language 
   what does your list comprise?

 * At System Preferences… | International | Input Menu
   which language is set when, for you, application behaviour is improper?

@myself: 

British English
English
Francais
Greek
Hebrew
Arabic

Input menu options comprise British and U.Ss. British is selected

— and for me the symptoms persist in m7 (release candidate 2) of OOo 3. 

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[sw-issues] [Issue 93749] word-wise: can not extend text selection, by word, using left or right a rrow key; a keyboard layouts issue?

2008-09-28 Thread grahamperrin
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Sep 28 09:30:53 + 
2008 ---
Possibly irrelevant, but if keyboard layouts are a concern then the tail end of 
this comment may be of interest: 

I find that some of my preference files are mishandled whenever I restart Mac 
OS X. 

Most noticeable and frustrating with 
~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.AddressBook.plist
— preferences for sort order, LDAP, template etc. are lost every time.

Noticeable but less frequent with 
~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.dock.plist
— preferences for Spaces are lost occasionally.

Very recently, following a hardware repair (25th September change of main board 
in my first generation MacBook 
Pro 17) noticeable with:

~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.security.plist
— references to all keychains are lost every time

~/com.apple.systempreferences.plist
— preferences for Character Palette, Keyboard Viewer and British are lost at 
least once. 

^^ that last line, keyboard input-related ^^

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[sw-issues] [Issue 93749] word-wise: can not extend text selection, by word, using left or right a rrow key; a keyboard layouts issue?

2008-09-28 Thread grahamperrin
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Sep 28 09:36:40 + 
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= See also =

Issue 34355, assigned to bh

 cursor position after deselecting text by pressing arrow keys

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[sw-issues] [Issue 93749] word-wise: can not extend text selection, by word, using left or right a rrow key; a keyboard layouts issue?

2008-09-28 Thread rollom
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Sep 28 11:07:43 + 
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@grahamperrin: What setting do you mean exactly, I do not find these settings
(using a German installation here, so this is a bit tricky to find...). Do you
mean the Mac control panel and there language settings, or OOo settings? Could
you give me the exact way to get to the settings?

BTW: The key assignment in the OOo keyboard settings says Apple-left/right is
used to jump wordwise. This is obviously wrong, as alt-left/right is used and
Apple-left/right is used to jump to the beginning/end of the line. (But you
cannot assign the alt key at all there... Might be that the famous missing alt
key assignment issue which is also there on PCs plays a trick on us here - why
not finally fix that one?). 

My report 49335 is a duplicate of this one here (sorry). I'm just going to mark
it as such. To repeat what I said there in addition to the report here:
Shift-Ctrl-Left/Right mistakenly has the function of Shift-Alt-Left/Right on my
Mac. I'm using a Macbook Pro 2.16 GHz here.

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[sw-issues] [Issue 93749] word-wise: can not extend text selection, by word, using left or right a rrow key; a keyboard layouts issue?

2008-09-28 Thread rollom
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Sep 28 11:11:53 + 
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Sorry, I meant issue 94335 of course. I cannot mark it as a duplicate on my own
there. Is this because I am not an admin? Can anyone else do this for me please?
Tnx.

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