[ui-issues] [Issue 12686] Tabbed Document Windows

2006-12-07 Thread mba
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changed  component to framework

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[ui-issues] [Issue 12686] Tabbed Document Windows

2006-11-16 Thread utomo99
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Nov 16 01:38:51 -0800 
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Horray
See Issue 54847 
It is targeted for 2.1 and Closed, Fixed

read also http://framework.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=devmsgNo=655
http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@framework.openoffice.org/msg00065.html

Look at http://go-oo.org/~raul/tab-1.png
http://go-oo.org/~raul/tab-2.png
http://go-oo.org/~raul/tab-3.png
http://go-oo.org/~raul/tab-4.png
http://go-oo.org/~raul/tab-5.png


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[ui-issues] [Issue 12686] Tabbed Document Windows

2006-11-16 Thread mba
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Nov 16 01:47:18 -0800 
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Sorry, but issue 54847 isn't the same as this. Please read the comments in issue
54847:

This task will be used to check in all sources related to the Google Summer Of 
Code project Tabbed Document Windows for OOo.

What you can do now is that you can grab the extension from last years GSOC and
install it into OOo to get the rudimentary tab functionality that now has been
committed to the master.

But Tabbed Documents is not just a technical problem (that currently is at least
partially solved by issue 54847), it has more implications:

- How can we make more than one tab visible at a time
- How does the already existing tab functionality in Calc and Impress fit into
the concept?
- How should a user interface look like that allows to have several task windows
each of them equipped with tabs?
- Should each window containing tabs have its own backing window?
etc. etc.

All these are important user interface problems that have to be solved before we
can implement the feature. Currently we are laying the technical ground for the
first point of my list (multiple tabs visible).


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[ui-issues] [Issue 12686] Tabbed Document Windows

2006-08-05 Thread cloph
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[ui-issues] [Issue 12686] Tabbed Document Windows

2006-08-03 Thread rsponsel
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[ui-issues] [Issue 12686] Tabbed Document Windows

2006-07-15 Thread aziem
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[ui-issues] [Issue 12686] Tabbed Document Windows

2006-07-15 Thread terrynorth
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Jul 15 18:50:59 -0700 
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I am voting for this issue.  It seems to be the same as:
http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=54847

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[ui-issues] [Issue 12686] Tabbed Document Windows

2006-07-05 Thread sweetc
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Jul  5 09:42:40 -0700 
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Hello All!

I hope those who may be working on this issue consider the following:

(1)  Option of choice of where to place the tab bar (Top, Bottom, Left side or 
Right side - Kinda like Opera does)
(2)  Option of having the tab bar recede while working on the document (or 
clicking on a blank area of the document) and then appearing when the mouse is 
moved near to it.
(3)  Ability to turn it on or off.
(4)  Ability to have the tab bar automatically place itself in the desired 
location according to the profile of the individual that signs on to the 
computer.

Thanks in advance to all who work on this project.

SC

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[ui-issues] [Issue 12686] Tabbed Document Windows

2006-07-04 Thread gercokees
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[ui-issues] [Issue 12686] Tabbed Document Windows

2006-07-04 Thread blackletter
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[ui-issues] [Issue 12686] Tabbed Document Windows

2006-07-04 Thread blackletter
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jul  4 09:06:19 -0700 
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See Issue 62933 for a different take on this issue.

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[ui-issues] [Issue 12686] Tabbed Document Windows

2006-07-03 Thread gercokees
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[ui-issues] [Issue 12686] Tabbed Document Windows

2006-04-26 Thread open_me
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Apr 26 07:02:04 -0700 
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If this implemented, can we have an *option* to turn this feature off, too? I
don't like to clutter my screen with rows of tool bars, tab bars, etc. 

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[ui-issues] [Issue 12686] Tabbed Document Windows

2006-03-09 Thread jondoe
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Mar  9 15:40:01 -0800 
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There have been a lot of great comments regarding this issue.  I have voted for
this comment, and I would like to add my own thoughts.

The evolution of tabbed interfaces has been a gradual and interesting one. 
Tabbed interfaces can help tremendously when dealing with a lot of information.
 However, it should be remembered that the first or even subsequent attempts
weren't always good.  So, this issue shouldn't be evaluated in the light of a
product from years ago, and points should be learned from successful interfaces.

Firefox has been used as an example, and I believe it is a good one.  Tabs are
optional.  If you would like to have several windows open, each with several
tabs, that is possible.  If you want one window open with several tabs, that is
possible.  If you want lots of windows open without any tabs, that is possible.
 Also, a tab bar only shows up in Firefox if multiple tabs are open.  It's not
an in-your-face feature.  If tabs are implemented in OOo (and I hope they are),
I would like the same flexibility because it is the reason why Firefox is able
to appeal to users regardless of their preference for tabbed browsing.  There
shouldn't even be a need to turn off tabs because they shouldn't be obvious if a
person doesn't want to use them.

The behavior of tabs in Firefox seems like an obvious enhancement for OOo
because as browsers are used to gather, organize, and create information, OOo is
also used to gather, create, and organize information.  The use of tabs in
Firefox can be looked to for inspiration, and additional enhancements could even
be made.  It should be possible to not only move tabs around within a window,
but also to move tabs from one window to another, to create windows from tabs,
or to create tabs from windows.  Being able to associate a group of files as a
group of tabs would also have some obvious benefits for anyone working on a
large project.

I see this type of functionality as being of enormous immediate benefit to those
without some type of virtual desktop functionality on their computers (mostly
Windows users-the majority of the market), but I would also appreciate some of
the more subtle benefits even when I am able to take advantage of virtual 
desktops.

A lot of enhancements to the user interface are submitted for user experience
evaluation.  I believe that the user experience has already been proven with
other programs that have tabbed interfaces.

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[ui-issues] [Issue 12686] Tabbed Document Windows

2006-01-25 Thread nbinont
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Jan 25 18:11:37 -0800 
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I agree that this is a great idea. But here's a couple thoughts:
1. Allow the user to turn off the tabs, if desired. Some people actually prefer
a non-tabbed experience (yes, I know, hard to understand, but they do)
2. It would be nice to allow the user to select where they want the tab bar to
appear (something like how the start menu/taskbar can be moved in windows, but
still inside openffice), then the user can decide where they like it.

3. Keep up the good work. your product rocks!

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[ui-issues] [Issue 12686] Tabbed Document Windows

2005-12-15 Thread annorax
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Dec 15 07:26:48 -0800 
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I too have been using OO for a while and love it. Tabbed documents would make
this program even more appealing. I often work with many documents and Excel
sheets and  tabs would greatly ease that.

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[ui-issues] [Issue 12686] Tabbed Document Windows

2005-11-28 Thread zanavashi
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Nov 28 16:57:48 -0800 
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Big hatip to Craig A. for bringing this issue to the fore.

I am a long-time OpenOffice user who is frequently working in anywhere from 4 -
10 different writer documents at a time and having so many windows open at once
is confusing and also time-consuming to my work flow.

As others have mentioned, the original reason I switched from IE to firefox was
to take advantage of the power of tabbed browsing and this has enhanced my web
usage beyond belief.

The possibility of having only one OpenOffice window running with multiple file
tabs and an option to place the tab bar at either the top/bottom or side of my
window would have the same impact on my OpenOffice experience.

I can't wait to see soem development in this area.

Cheers,
Z

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[ui-issues] [Issue 12686] Tabbed Document Windows

2005-08-03 Thread cloph
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[ui-issues] [Issue 12686] Tabbed Document Windows

2005-08-03 Thread cloph
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[ui-issues] [Issue 12686] Tabbed Document Windows

2005-07-13 Thread cloph
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[ui-issues] [Issue 12686] Tabbed Document Windows

2005-07-13 Thread cloph
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[ui-issues] [Issue 12686] Tabbed Document Windows

2005-07-13 Thread nigelenki
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Jul 13 15:39:56 -0700 
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Here's an idea.  Someone install koffice and try using koshell, the KOffice
Workspace.  That's really cool. . . .  Of course the koffice apps kind of suck
(though frame-based desktop publishing is awesome; of course they confused it
with word processing but eh).

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[ui-issues] [Issue 12686] Tabbed Document Windows

2005-03-10 Thread psut2003
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Mar 10 08:36:48 -0800 
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I thought this would be a good idea,  as we already have tabs in spread sheets
and sometimes it's nice to be able to work on more than one document at the same
time,  it also means less clutter in the taskbar I guess

Paul

PS Best of luck with openoffice 2.0

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[ui-issues] [Issue 12686] Tabbed Document Windows

2005-03-10 Thread gonzalez
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Mar 10 12:11:30 -0800 
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The main reason I would like to see tabbed documents in OOo is this:
tab documents would allow me to handle the information (opening, processing an
storage)  in an integrated and tidy structure, i.e. as thematic dossiers and not
only as isolated documents.
This is a new functionality whose usefulness goes farther than simple nice
experiences ( la M$), and even than the usefulnees we can have when browsing 
on
internet. If we think a little bit, we will see that it is precisely this way
-integrated handling of information through dossiers- that people try to do
their work in every office, school, etc. A couple of examples:  a dossier (a
group of related information in the form of several files) about a prospective
client; a dossier about a candidate for a vacancy; a dossier about an investment
project; a dossier about a research or rapport at the school or university; a
dossier with all the letters I have written to somebody; a dossier about... you
name it.
 Now, which program do you think, can incorporate -I would even say it requires-
this functionality in a natural way? M$, where you have all kind of niceties
but without order (a very pleasant mess)? Or Open Office, which at its very base
(and not like inM$ as only one more nicety) has the structure of templates,
styles and navigator and the integration between its different modules from
within each module? I think tabbed documents would be only a natural extension
in OOo, but a very useful one especially in terms of work productivity  (of
course, it would be, besides, pleasant). If M$ would offer sth. comparable, it
will have to change its approach (at least in relation to text treatment), and
not only stuff a computer with useless niceties (after a whole year working with
OOo I go sometimes back to look at Word. It feels like an elephant full bells
and beads).
 I left M$ because of this kind of functionalities  offered by OOo, because they
allowed me to increase my productivity and efficiency, not because it was
nicer (well, it was nicer for the quality of my work). 
Regards,
gonzalez

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[ui-issues] [Issue 12686] Tabbed Document Windows

2005-03-08 Thread lpret
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Mar  8 16:30:40 -0800 
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At some point there need to be features that make OOo stand out from the other
offerings.  What better way than to offer tabs?  Tabs make the experience unique
to OOo and create value for working in OOo vs. others.  This is a similar move
that had to be made in the browser world.  Firefox (and mozilla in general) has
several features that allow it to be a better browsing experience than IE can
offer and thus there are many users who choose Firefox, not simply not IE.  We
need people who choose this Office suite because it is unique, not because it is
simply another option.

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[ui-issues] [Issue 12686] Tabbed Document Windows

2005-03-05 Thread bcharlesr
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Mar  5 23:37:57 -0800 
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Here's my .02, I guess. I got interested in this issue after attempting to edit 
a large multi-file master 
document and grew really frustrated with multiple individual windows when Calc 
already contains tabs 
for multiple spreadsheets. My interest is to use the tabs similarly to Calc, 
wherein each separate tab is 
still a part of the same file, but logically separated from the rest of the 
document. It makes editing or 
writing books or other files with logical chapters easier without having to 
reference external 
documents or keep multiple windows open for cross referencing while editing the 
file.

I certainly would not want to return to the StarOffice 5.2 days. It was really 
quite horrid having to 
maintain the Star desktop _and_ the underlying UNIX or Windows desktop. I just 
want something similar 
to a feature already present in Calc and other spreadsheet programs to be 
present in my word-
processor.

Approximately how much of the Calc tab code would need to be changed/re-written 
in order to make it 
work in Writer?

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[ui-issues] [Issue 12686] Tabbed Document Windows

2005-03-04 Thread sajer
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Mar  4 13:11:03 -0800 
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Decided? People did not like StarOffice 5.2, but it really can't be compared to
tabs a'la Lotus, can it? StarOffice 5.2 combined everything, it was horror.

Look at the number of votes. People now know tabs from everywhere, especially
Firefox that is very popular because of its use of tabs.

Working with many documents in the task bar is confusing, where the hey is this
and that. With tabs everything is so easy!

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[ui-issues] [Issue 12686] Tabbed Document Windows

2005-03-04 Thread bobharvey
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Mar  4 13:24:50 -0800 
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Well, if the idea is up for discussion all over again, then I think
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=20701 will have to be decided -
the use of tabs within a document.  The stylist and Navigator have largely made
this second idea redundant, and I refer the house to
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=7833


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[ui-issues] [Issue 12686] Tabbed Document Windows

2005-03-04 Thread ziptx
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--- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Mar  4 15:35:54 -0800 
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In answer to bobharvey in duplicate issue 6371: 

[And would you have a spreadsheet tab next to a wp tab?  or not?]

The answer is YES!  I usually have 10-15 documents open.  Example: 5 different
MS Accesses instances, 4 or 5 text/Writer documents, 2 or 3 spreadsheet/Calc
documents.  I am using [cutting/pasting] information out of each of these
repositories to assemble new documents, story boards, business cases, or 
programs. This often includes 2 or 3 new story boards in simultaneous
production drawing from these same 10-15 different sources.  To have the ability
to simplify all my OO open documents [including the new Base] into tabs and show
one instance on the Windows Taskbar, would leave room on the Taskbar for the
other 5 or 10 programs that are being used to support the story.  This is 
not
to say that I wouldn't want to have 2 or 3 instances of OO open, each with their
own set of tabs.  I tend to do this with Firefox, opening 2 or 3 instances and
having each instance host tabs on a particular theme or story.

Here are some rough thoughts on where the tabs would naturally fit.

Window / TitleBar
File/Edit/View  ControlBar
1st  ToolBar
2nd  ToolBar
Add a 3rd  Toolbar known as a TabBar

This Tab Bar would have a tab or button of all the open 
documents listed
in the menu item of Window on the ControlBar.

Justification:

1)In FireFox, the tabs are *after/below* all the Tool/Control bars and
*before/above* the working space.  It would seem a natural fit to have a
TabBar below the two default tool bars of each OO Application. The trick 
would
be to get the ControlBar, ToolBars, and working space to change in relation to
the type of document that is clicked in the TabBar. Similar to when switching
between tabs in Firefox, the URL bar changes to the right web address. [Of
course switching to the correct ControlBar, ToolBars, and Workspace would be a
hair more complex than changing text in a URL bar =) ]

2)After spending time in FireFox, it would seem unnatural to have the tabs above
the ControlBar.

3)Having the tabs on the bottom of the instance also seems awkward. Document
changing functionality seems naturally grouped at the top.   Also, some
applications [like Calc and Draw] have tabs near the bottom for certain
functions already built into the application.   The eyes also draw to the title
bar on the top to see the which document is open, so tabs [which depict which
document your working on and have open]  would feel better near the top.

In regards to the referenced issues:

7833  -- is a completely unique concept not related to tabs.  Document tabs
provide *only* the function of aggregating open documents and providing quick
navigation between those documents.

6371  I have never used StarOffice, nor do I know how long ago 5.2 was in its
prime.  Using Firefox tabs creates a bit of a paradigm shift in your thinking. 
But as most users attest, once the mind grasps the the concept, it's near
impossible to turn back.   Now that  a small percentage of the population has a
grasp of this tab concept, these users will naturally want it to flow 
into the
rest of their workspace because of the organization and ease it provides.  I see
the concept growing and maturing just as having multiple windows did.

20701   is a completely unique concept from open document tabs and proposes
providing tabs that reflect sections in one document and NOT tabs for each open
document in OO.  If this feature comes to fruition, I see it as a feature of the
application itself. Example: Providing small tabs at the bottom of the Writer
application much the same as the tabs in Calc.

Since I am fairly new to contributing, I would be more than willing to help in a
usability study [as bobharvey  mentioned in issue 6371 ] or in other ways.   I
just need to be pointed in the right direction.

One last hair-brained idea:   A plugin could be made for Firefox to allow a
tab to open an instance of an OO application.  The same way FireFTP [a unique
 FTP Application] opens in a tab of FireFox.  I'll post this suggestion over on
Mozilla.



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