Re: [Alsa-user] Vivanco 6C PCI and Midi?
Hi Lorenz. I'm sorry at giving you false hopes in being able to load soundfonts on your card. I thought that all soundcards with a wavetable Synth were capable of it. Regarding the Ensoniq card. I have one of these too on another machine, and it uses the es1371 driver, but again has no wavetable synth. It does work ok with Alsa though. Something I cannot understand is why you are getting such terrible latency problems. Using jackd (jack-audio-connection-kit) and Qjackctl, even with a latency of 42.7 msec on an FC2 install, I cannot detect any latency when playing my Evolution MK225C usb keyboard. The only problems I have with severe latency is with Wine. Using VSTi's with Savihost, and Wine I get latency problems like playing a pipe organ. I see from the Vivanco site (which is incredibly slow) that the card isn't expensive. so an alternative is to buy a Creative card that uses an EMU driver if you want to use soundfonts, or first. Install jackd, and Qjackctl (the GUI frontend to jackd with a midi connections panel) . then install ZynAddSubFx (synth). Then you can try your keyboard using ZynAddSubFx, and play with the latency problems in Qjackctl's setup. With FC2 in Qjackctl's setup I have Frames/Period set to 1024, and Periods/Buffer to 2. This gives me a latency of 42.7 msec, not fantastic, but hardly noticeable. If you don't have realtime capabilities in the kernel, make sure you uncheck the Realtime box in Qjackctl, otherwise the jack daemon won't start. You still havn't said which distro, or kernel you are using, but if you are using a 2.4 kernel the Server path in Qjackctl needs to be jackstart. If you are using a 2.6 kernel the Server path needs to be jackd . All the best, and I hope to hear you making some music soon. Nigel. Hi, I have a Ensoniq Card here. It uses snd-ens1371, but as far I know, it doesn't have a onboard synth, too... My USB keyboard hasn't any noticeable latency, but I still have ~250 ms with qsynth. Maybe because I'm running a PIII 800... My dist is Gentoo, my kernel 2.6.14-ck6. I bought this Vivanco-card, because the hompage tells me about a onboard wavetable synth. So I don't trust descriptions any more. Would be very very nice, if somebody simply told me the name/a link of a card, wich plays midi without a software synth. Thanks so far, Lorenz P.S.: sorry for my bad english, i hope you can understand it... ;) --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid3432bid#0486dat1642 ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] Vivanco 6C PCI and Midi?
On Sat, 2006-01-21 at 10:31 +0100, Lorenz Hopfmüller wrote: I bought this Vivanco-card, because the hompage tells me about a onboard wavetable synth. So I don't trust descriptions any more. The description was correct, but just because a card has a feature, you can't assume that ALSA supports it, because most vendors don't give us the needed specs. Lee --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] Vivanco 6C PCI and Midi?
On Sat, 2006-01-21 at 10:31 +0100, Lorenz Hopfmüller wrote: Would be very very nice, if somebody simply told me the name/a link of a card, wich plays midi without a software synth. The only such cards are the ones supported by the snd-emu10k1 driver. Lee --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] Vivanco 6C PCI and Midi?
On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 04:37:06 -0500 Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2006-01-21 at 10:31 +0100, Lorenz Hopfmüller wrote: Would be very very nice, if somebody simply told me the name/a link of a card, wich plays midi without a software synth. The only such cards are the ones supported by the snd-emu10k1 driver. Lee So this card would work: http://cgi.ebay.de/Soundblaster-live-voll-funktionsfaehig_W0QQitemZ8751628794QQcategoryZ107202QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem ? The description is german, but its a soundblaster live with a emu10k1-chip. Sorry if I'm annoying you, but I haven't enough money to buy a wrong card again... Thanks, Lorenz --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid3432bid#0486dat1642 ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] snd_cmipci + optical input
On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 08:35:54PM -0500, Lee Revell wrote: On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 21:52 +0100, Patrick Plattes wrote: Hello, i'm new to the list and i have (maybe a stupid) problem. I'm using a terratec 5.1 soundcard and everything works fine until now :). But since i try to use the optical input i see an issue. I don't know how to record the input. I can hear the sound on the lodspeaker, but i'm not able to record it with audacity or any other tools. I don't know if it depends on the alsa version. I use a nearly default debian system with: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.4 (Mon May 17 14:31:44 2004 UTC). Compiled on Oct 2 2005 for kernel 2.6.8-11-amd64-generic. 1.0.4 is WAY too old to be able to debug. Try a recent release (at least 1.0.10). Now i have installed a new kernel and a new alsa version: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.11rc2. Compiled on Jan 21 2006 for kernel 2.6.15. I'm using the gnome-alsamixer to configure the sound device. Thanks, Patrick ps. i you need any additional information please ask :) --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
[Alsa-user] High pitched noise from M-Audio USB Transit
I have a M Audio Transit USB souncard, and have found a high pitched noise comes out of my speakers when starting jackd. This noise is not apparent when simply playing through the device using alsaplayer. Has anyone else got this? Has anyone else not got this with their Transit? Cheers, Chris --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
[Alsa-user] Two sound sources and one sound card
Title: Message Whilst I'm reasonably comfortable with Linux, sound continues to mystify me. I have managed to get all the applications that I want to use working with Sound on my FC4 AMD64 machine, the main ones being: xine rosegarden kaffeine (for its DVB capabilities) Skype That's all fine except when I try and do more than one thing at once. My specific issue is having Skype running all the time, so that it can pop up if someone calls or when I want to use it, and from time to time I use kaffeine. If I start kaffeine but don't play anything with it, it doesn't use the sound device and all is well. But the moment I play a file, or watch DVB, the sound device is used, and then Skype can't get it when it wants to use it. I run skype as: asrtsdsp -m skpe (following many web trawls as this was the only way I could find to get it to work with sound). I haven't done any special sound config for kaffeine, it just works. So I need some way of allowing multiple applications to use sound at the same time, rather than one blocking the other out. (After I've used kaffeine, it isn't sufficient to just stop playing something with sound,I have to kill the application before skype is able to get the sound device). Can anyone give me some guidance? Thanks Tim *** The Royal Bank of Scotland plc. Registered in Scotland No 90312. Registered Office: 36 St Andrew Square, Edinburgh EH2 2YB. Authorized and regulated by the Financial Services Authority This e-mail message is confidential and for use by the addressee only. If the message is received by anyone other than the addressee, please return the message to the sender by replying to it and then delete the message from your computer. Internet e-mails are not necessarily secure. The Royal Bank of Scotland plc does not accept responsibility for changes made to this message after it was sent. Whilst all reasonable care has been taken to avoid the transmission of viruses, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that the onward transmission, opening or use of this message and any attachments will not adversely affect its systems or data. No responsibility is accepted by The Royal Bank of Scotland plc in this regard and the recipient should carry out such virus and other checks as it considers appropriate. Visit our websites at: http://www.rbos.com http://www.rbsmarkets.com
Re: [Alsa-user] Two sound sources and one sound card
I successfully run Skype as aoss skype . Skype is an OSS application, so one needs a special layer to make it possible to run it in a non-blocking manner. There is a relatively new application to make OSS applications non-blocking: http://fort.xdas.com/~kor/oss2jack/ - I haven't tried it myself, it might help you. On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 16:08:11 - HEDGER, Tim, FM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whilst I'm reasonably comfortable with Linux, sound continues to mystify me. I have managed to get all the applications that I want to use working with Sound on my FC4 AMD64 machine, the main ones being: * xine * rosegarden * kaffeine (for its DVB capabilities) * Skype That's all fine except when I try and do more than one thing at once. My specific issue is having Skype running all the time, so that it can pop up if someone calls or when I want to use it, and from time to time I use kaffeine. If I start kaffeine but don't play anything with it, it doesn't use the sound device and all is well. But the moment I play a file, or watch DVB, the sound device is used, and then Skype can't get it when it wants to use it. I run skype as: asrtsdsp -m skpe (following many web trawls as this was the only way I could find to get it to work with sound). I haven't done any special sound config for kaffeine, it just works. So I need some way of allowing multiple applications to use sound at the same time, rather than one blocking the other out. (After I've used kaffeine, it isn't sufficient to just stop playing something with sound, I have to kill the application before skype is able to get the sound device). Can anyone give me some guidance? Thanks Tim *** The Royal Bank of Scotland plc. Registered in Scotland No 90312. Registered Office: 36 St Andrew Square, Edinburgh EH2 2YB. Authorized and regulated by the Financial Services Authority This e-mail message is confidential and for use by the addressee only. If the message is received by anyone other than the addressee, please return the message to the sender by replying to it and then delete the message from your computer. Internet e-mails are not necessarily secure. The Royal Bank of Scotland plc does not accept responsibility for changes made to this message after it was sent. Whilst all reasonable care has been taken to avoid the transmission of viruses, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that the onward transmission, opening or use of this message and any attachments will not adversely affect its systems or data. No responsibility is accepted by The Royal Bank of Scotland plc in this regard and the recipient should carry out such virus and other checks as it considers appropriate. Visit our websites at: http://www.rbos.com http://www.rbsmarkets.com --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] Two sound sources and one sound card
On Saturday 21 January 2006 11:08, HEDGER, Tim, FM wrote: Whilst I'm reasonably comfortable with Linux, sound continues to mystify me. I have managed to get all the applications that I want to use working with Sound on my FC4 AMD64 machine, the main ones being: * xine * rosegarden * kaffeine (for its DVB capabilities) * Skype That's all fine except when I try and do more than one thing at once. My specific issue is having Skype running all the time, so that it can pop up if someone calls or when I want to use it, and from time to time I use kaffeine. If I start kaffeine but don't play anything with it, it doesn't use the sound device and all is well. But the moment I play a file, or watch DVB, the sound device is used, and then Skype can't get it when it wants to use it. I run skype as: asrtsdsp -m skpe (following many web trawls as this was the only way I could find to get it to work with sound). I haven't done any special sound config for kaffeine, it just works. So I need some way of allowing multiple applications to use sound at the same time, rather than one blocking the other out. (After I've used kaffeine, it isn't sufficient to just stop playing something with sound, I have to kill the application before skype is able to get the sound device). Can anyone give me some guidance? I solved that problem here by investing in an SB Audigy2 Value card, and configuring it to be the default device, relegating the motherboards NForce2 audio to snd-card-1 status. Then I use skype by actually launching skype_dsp_hijacker --2nd, which redirects all accesses to the second sound channel, rather nice since skype gives no facilities to switch its transmission channel away from /dev/mixer which is a link to /dev/mixer0. skype_dsp_hijacker hands it /dev/mixer1, and skype system sounds are then isolated from each other and can run concurrently. Now all the system related stuffs then come thru snd-card-0 and skype gets snd-card-1 all to itself. And skype_dsp_hijacker serves as the skype launcher in your X screen icon's properties. This gets rather verbose in my modprobe.conf (yeah, I'm still running FC2, but with bleeding edge kernels), so the best way to show how thats all initialized is by a snip from my modprobe.conf: - # sound stuff, subject to heavy mods in future # For Alsa # 1st, make the SB Live or SB Audigy 2 the default alias snd-card-0 snd-emu10k1 # 2nd, and then skype can use /dev/dsp1 alias snd-card-1 snd-intel8x0 # For Alsa's Oss emulation I think alias snd-slot-0 snd-card-0 alias snd-slot-1 snd-card-1 # Alsa's Oss emulation # supposedly for emu10k1/SBLive Value/Audigy 2 Value stuff alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss # supposedly for nforce2's ac97 emulation # But somethings fubar here yet. alias sound-service-1-0 snd-mixer-oss alias sound-service-1-1 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-1-3 snd-pcm-oss alias sound-service-1-8 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-1-12 snd-pcm-oss # But, whats this? alias char-major-116-* snd alias char-major-14-* sound install synth0 /bin/true # end of sound Hopefully, that will help clarify things. And I'm not saying its correct, but it is working. FWIW, I do get, from logwatchs daily mailing, messsages like this: - ModProbe Begin Errors running install command: sound_slot_2 : 10 Time(s) -- ModProbe End - As I don't have a sound_slot_2 defined, the src of these messages has puzzled me for years because before the second card was installed, the message complained about sound_slot_1, I just checked back in my logs to confirm that. -- Cheers, Gene People having trouble with vz bouncing email to me should add the word 'online' between the 'verizon', and the dot which bypasses vz's stupid bounce rules. I do use spamassassin too. :-) Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2005 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] HDA Intel alsamixer controls strange.
On Sat, 21 Jan 2006, Lee Revell wrote: On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 23:30 -0800, Bill Unruh wrote: The question of course is NOT why aumix has a volume control which works but why the alsa mixer (which surely is part of alsa) has no volume control, and as a result I could not turn up the output volume using alsamixer. Surely the complete absense of a volume control is a bug. Not necessarily, lots of hardware does not have a volume control these days. Maybe aumix calls PCM volume, who knows. You would have to look at the source. OOps. I just looked more closely at what happens to one of the mixers when I changed the other. The Volume on the aumix is the Front on the alsamixer. So they do correspond to each other and alsamixer does have all of the controls of the aumix. Sorry for the noise on the line. Lets return to regular programming. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
[Alsa-user] Getting Alsa to work
Hello everyone, I recently got a Linux box running with a RME hdsp card (thanks to Fernando's help at PlanetCCRMA), so I'm almost ready to leave the world of Windows. I can't seem to get the Alsaplayer to work, with or without Jack. Does anyone know why I'm getting these error messages? I'm running FC4 with the newest low latency PlanetCCRMA kernel. Any help is much appreciated! Richie [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# alsaplayer ALSA lib conf.c:1592:(snd_config_load1) _toplevel_:51:23:No such file or directo ry ALSA lib conf.c:2837:(snd_config_hook_load) /etc/alsa/cards/aliases.conf may be old or corrupted: consider to remove or fix it ALSA lib conf.c:2700:(snd_config_hooks_call) function snd_config_hook_load retur ned error: No such file or directory ALSA lib pcm.c:1969:(snd_pcm_open_conf) Invalid type for PCM default definition (id: default, value: cards.pcm.default) snd_pcm_open: Invalid argument (default) Failed to initialize plugin! Failed to register plugin: /usr/lib/alsaplayer/output/libalsa_out.so Failed to load output plugin alsa. Trying defaults. ALSA lib conf.c:1592:(snd_config_load1) _toplevel_:51:23:No such file or directo ry ALSA lib conf.c:2837:(snd_config_hook_load) /etc/alsa/cards/aliases.conf may be old or corrupted: consider to remove or fix it ALSA lib conf.c:2700:(snd_config_hooks_call) function snd_config_hook_load retur ned error: No such file or directory ALSA lib pcm.c:1969:(snd_pcm_open_conf) Invalid type for PCM default definition (id: default, value: cards.pcm.default) snd_pcm_open: Invalid argument (default) Failed to initialize plugin! /usr/lib/alsaplayer/output/libalsa_out.so failed to load jack: server not running? /usr/lib/alsaplayer/output/libjack_out.so failed to load
