Re: [Alsa-user] a7v8x-x motherboard 5.1 possible?

2006-09-28 Thread Clemens Ladisch
Al Banks wrote:
 [...]  Still, no sound from center, sub, and both speakers.

Try speaker-test.


HTH
Clemens

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Re: [Alsa-user] alsa-player ?

2006-09-28 Thread Dominique Michel
Please, stop to respond to me directly when I post on the list if it is no
reason to do that, otherwise I will just filter you out.

Le Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:40:11 +0300,
Sergei Steshenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :

 On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 23:53:03 +0200
 Dominique Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Le Wed, 27 Sep 2006 12:28:10 +0300,
  Sergei Steshenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
  
   On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 11:15:52 +0200
   Dominique Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
What append with the alsaplayer? It is a really nice little player with
some unique feature such its speed control.

Gentoo have removed it from portage because, according to gentoo's
devs, it is no maintained upstream. If I look on alsaplayer email list,
a debian's dev send a few patch to correct some security bugs. Those
patches work very well and they have not even been incorporated in the
cvs or in a bugs correction release.

It will be really sad if such a player will disappear. I don't care of
the look of a program so long at it do the work. And it is the only one
that have a speed control. I done an alsaplayer-mixer for fvwm with the
capability to change the pitch by a value of a comma around the normal
speed, and by halve notes after.

I don't understand why this project is dead. The old gtk1 release with
the debian patches compile just fine even on gcc-4.1.1. The cvs version
fail to compile in my box (gentoo), but it seam to be a gtk2 problem,
not an internal API problem. The fix in the case of the gtk1 release is
to incorporate the debian patches. In the case of the cvs version and
its gtk2 interface, some programmers have to look in the code.

So, it is 2 problems. 

1) It is no maintainer for the gtk1 release. It is very
sad because it is not a full time job at all.

2) More work is needed for the gtk2 release. I personally don't care
about it if it is no new features with it beside the look but, and it
is a big but, I think at on the long run, a gtk2 interface is a must
have in order to archive the succes of this program.

Dominique

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   Some security flaws were recently discovered in alsaplayer; since
   nobody maintains it, nobody is going to fix the flaws, I guess.
   
   I think that's the reason why it has been removed.
   
   --Sergei.
   
  Once again, I will not discuss about gentoo policy. I have an ebuild that
  incorporate the debian fixes. You can catch it from this overlay:
  http://proaudio.tuxfamily.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
  
  For what I know, the debian patches fix those security flaws. The problem
  is at you can catch those fixes in the email list, but they have not even
  been incorporated in the tarball or in the cvs on the website.
  
  If you read the last emails in the email list, when someone ask for help or
  is willing to help to fix things, it doesn't even get an answer. And that
  from around one year ago.
  
  It is not so at no one is willing to fix this player. As example:
  http://lists.tartarus.org/pipermail/alsaplayer-devel/2006-May/001891.html
  The 28 May 2006, Hubert Chan from Debian send a few fixes from him and other
  peoples. They don't even been incorporated in the cvs or in the tarball. And
  Hubert don't even get an answer.
  
  Is it not possible to incorporate the alsaplayer in another project with a
  website where the people(s) in charge will at least incorporate the fixes
  that other peoples are making, as the debian fixes? 
  
  It is 3 things they are unique with the alsaplayer on linux: Its ability to
  control the speed, its ability to control the speed forward and backward,
  and its ability to control this function from a terminal, keybindings or a
  custom menu. As example, with my fvwm menu, I can change the speed by one
  or 2 commas and that is really a great feature when I am playing guitar at
  the same time. It take much more less time to do that as to re-tune the
  guitar.
  
  As it is the only player on linux that have this function: my choice is
  simple. The day it will not be possible to use a player that have this on
  linux, I will just search for another OS that have such a player, because I
  will not run wine just to be able to run an audio player that is doing what
  I want! 
  
  Another possibility will be to incorporate those functions in another
  player. I don't care. 

Re: [Alsa-user] Audigy2 ZS PCMCIA - no mic?

2006-09-28 Thread Marcin Lewandowski
James Courtier-Dutton napisał(a):
 On 21/09/06, Marcin Lewandowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 I have Audigy2 ZS PCMCIA card. I use emu10k1 driver from gentoo
 alsa-driver-1.0.13_rc2. I can play sound but I have problems with
 capture. I turned all things in mixer to 100% level and I can't record
 anything. In Windows it works ok. How get mic/linein working?

 Thanks in advance,

 -- Marcin Lewandowski

 
 Please see the sound card matrix:
 http://alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php?vendor=vendor-Creative_Labs#matrix 
 
 
 It is a known problem.

OK, I don't know why I haven't noticed that when I was looking at that 
page before I've bought the card.

It doesn't matter. How I can help to develop that? I program from time 
to time in C but in general I'm quite busy and I'm not experienced 
enough to program the driver.

-- 
Marcin Lewandowski

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[Alsa-user] can't seem to get ac3 passthrough working with ymfpci

2006-09-28 Thread Brian J. Murrell
I've been trying and trying and I just can't seem to get DD/DTS/AC3 to
work.  My receiver receives PCM just fine so at least I know the
physical bits are working.

I have tried both mplayer and ac3dec to drive the card into decoding AC3
but no luck.  I believe I have the mixer settings correct.  In fact I
think I have everything unmuted and at somewhere in the 2/3 volume
range.  I have IEC958 Loop disabled/muted and Direct Recording Source
set to IEC958.

When I use say mplayer to play a raw ac3 file (which it can downmix and
play analog through the liba52 codec) with:

# mplayer -v -ao alsa -afm hwac3 
/video/Bjorn_Lynne-A-Lifetime-Of-Moments_\(5-1_surround\).ac3

mplayer tells me:

Trying to force audio codec driver family hwac3...
Opening audio decoder: [hwac3] AC3/DTS pass-through S/PDIF
dec_audio: Allocating 8192 bytes for input buffer.
dec_audio: Allocating 16384 + 65536 = 81920 bytes for output buffer.
No accelerated IMDCT transform found
hwac3: switched to AC3, 448000 bps, 48000 Hz
AUDIO: 48000 Hz, 2 ch, ac3, 448.0 kbit/29.17% (ratio: 56000-192000)
Selected audio codec: [hwac3] afm: hwac3 (AC3 through S/PDIF)
==
Building audio filter chain for 48000Hz/2ch/ac3 - 0Hz/0ch/??...
[libaf] Adding filter dummy 
[dummy] Was reinitialized: 48000Hz/2ch/ac3
[dummy] Was reinitialized: 48000Hz/2ch/ac3
alsa-init: requested format: 48000 Hz, 2 channels, 100
alsa-init: using ALSA 1.0.11
alsa-spdif-init: playing AC3, 2 channels
alsa-init: using device iec958:{CARD 0 AES0 0x02 AES1 0x82 AES2 0x00 AES3 0x02}
alsa-init: pcm opend in blocking mode
alsa-init: chunksize set to 1024
alsa-init: fragcount=16
alsa-init: got buffersize=65536
alsa-init: got period size 1024
alsa: 48000 Hz/2 channels/4 bpf/65536 bytes buffer/Signed 16 bit Little Endian
AO: [alsa] 48000Hz 2ch ac3 (1 bytes per sample)
AO: Description: ALSA-0.9.x-1.x audio output
AO: Author: Alex Beregszaszi, Zsolt Barat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AO: Comment: under developement
Building audio filter chain for 48000Hz/2ch/ac3 - 48000Hz/2ch/ac3...
[dummy] Was reinitialized: 48000Hz/2ch/ac3
[dummy] Was reinitialized: 48000Hz/2ch/ac3
Video: no video
Freeing 0 unused video chunks.
Starting playback...

But still the receiver does not kick into DD to decode.

ac3dec shows/does:

# ac3dec -C /video/Bjorn_Lynne-A-Lifetime-Of-Moments_\(5-1_surround\).ac3 
Using PCM device 'plug:iec958:{AES0 0x2 AES1 0x82 AES2 0x0 AES3 0x2}'
AC3 Stream 48.0 KHz 448 kbps

But again, no DD decoding.

Any ideas?

b.

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Re: [Alsa-user] can't seem to get ac3 passthrough working with ymfpci

2006-09-28 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2006-09-28 at 14:51 -0400, Brian J. Murrell wrote:
 I've been trying and trying and I just can't seem to get DD/DTS/AC3 to
 work.  My receiver receives PCM just fine so at least I know the
 physical bits are working.
 
 I have tried both mplayer and ac3dec to drive the card into decoding AC3
 but no luck.  I believe I have the mixer settings correct.  In fact I
 think I have everything unmuted and at somewhere in the 2/3 volume
 range.  I have IEC958 Loop disabled/muted and Direct Recording Source
 set to IEC958.
 

What hardware?  I think AC3 passthrough cannot work on Nvidia HDA
chipsets doe to proprietary undocumented hardware implementation.

Can you try the latest ALSA release?

Lee



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Re: [Alsa-user] can't seem to get ac3 passthrough working with ymfpci

2006-09-28 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Thu, 2006-28-09 at 15:05 -0400, Lee Revell wrote:
 On Thu, 2006-09-28 at 14:51 -0400, Brian J. Murrell wrote:
  I've been trying and trying and I just can't seem to get DD/DTS/AC3 to
  work.  My receiver receives PCM just fine so at least I know the
  physical bits are working.
  
  I have tried both mplayer and ac3dec to drive the card into decoding AC3
  but no luck.  I believe I have the mixer settings correct.  In fact I
  think I have everything unmuted and at somewhere in the 2/3 volume
  range.  I have IEC958 Loop disabled/muted and Direct Recording Source
  set to IEC958.
  
 
 What hardware?

Ahhh.  Sorry.  It's a Hoontech XG (IIRC).

00:13.0 Multimedia audio controller: Yamaha Corporation YMF-754 [DS-1E Audio 
Controller]

 I think AC3 passthrough cannot work on Nvidia HDA
 chipsets doe to proprietary undocumented hardware implementation.

Not surprising from Nvidia.

 Can you try the latest ALSA release?

What is the latest?  I am using

Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.10.

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Re: [Alsa-user] alsa-player ?

2006-09-28 Thread Nigel Henry

 Thanks for the link, but I am not asking for some advanced sound effect,
 but for an audio player with a speed control feature, feature that I can
 incorporate in my menu.

 As I said before, it is not so at no one is willing to improve the
 alsaplayer, but at no one is incorporating the fixes send on the
 devel-email list in the code. So my question is the same:

 If we will keep this player that have such an unique feature on linux, we
 need a new site for this player, or to incorporate this feature in another
 player. I think at the first solution is easier.

 Dominique

Hi Dominique. It is a shame that Alsaplayer isn't being maintained. We are 
losing too many apps because, either the authors have lost interest, have 
moved onto other projects, or are just trying to live some sort of life apart 
from computers.

Myself, I use Mhwaveedit, which does have a speed control. 
https://gna.org/projects/mhwaveedit/

It's basically an editor, but works well as a player for both .ogg's, 
and .mp3's. It's a tarball install and needs libsamplerate-devel, and 
libsndfile-devel to be installed for it to build. For MP3 usage you need to 
have lame installed. You can also record on it as well, which can be usefull.

It may be worth giving it a try.

Nigel.

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Re: [Alsa-user] alsa-player ?

2006-09-28 Thread Dominique Michel
Le Thu, 28 Sep 2006 21:47:07 +0200,
Nigel Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :

 
  Thanks for the link, but I am not asking for some advanced sound effect,
  but for an audio player with a speed control feature, feature that I can
  incorporate in my menu.
 
  As I said before, it is not so at no one is willing to improve the
  alsaplayer, but at no one is incorporating the fixes send on the
  devel-email list in the code. So my question is the same:
 
  If we will keep this player that have such an unique feature on linux, we
  need a new site for this player, or to incorporate this feature in another
  player. I think at the first solution is easier.
 
  Dominique
 
 Hi Dominique. It is a shame that Alsaplayer isn't being maintained. We are 
 losing too many apps because, either the authors have lost interest, have 
 moved onto other projects, or are just trying to live some sort of life apart 
 from computers.
 
Myself, I can do a website for the alsaplayer if it is no other solution,
but I cannot support an email list for it. I can have one more email just for
it, but it will not be as an email list. It would be better to put it on
sourceforge or another repository so at it will be open to other peoples.

Another problem is at I am not a programmer. I can apply the debian patches and
do a tarball. Even do a tarball with the cvs that have a gtk2 interface (that
doesn't compile on my system), but again. it will be better to have a real
depository with cvs or svn capability, so at developers can register and submit
their patches directly.

 Myself, I use Mhwaveedit, which does have a speed control. 
 https://gna.org/projects/mhwaveedit/
 
 It's basically an editor, but works well as a player for both .ogg's, 
 and .mp3's. It's a tarball install and needs libsamplerate-devel, and 
 libsndfile-devel to be installed for it to build. For MP3 usage you need to 
 have lame installed. You can also record on it as well, which can be usefull.
 
 It may be worth giving it a try.
 
 Nigel.
 
Mhwaveedit is a cool editor. But as player the alsaplayer is better, and it
have an API that is very easy to incorporate in a menu. The alsaplayer have
also a better speed control as mwaveedit. The smallest change I can have with
waveedit is 2 %. With the alsaplayer, I can have one comma (around 1%, and I
have not try less), that is ~ 4 commas in the first half note. And I assure you
at it does a difference when you are playing guitar or another instrument at the
same time.

If you want to see how my speed control menu is looking:
http://home.citycable.ch/monde-meilleur/linux/scrennshoot-grand.png
And I have a volume control in db, I can load playlists, jump, seek, etc.

man alsaplayer give you the options, and they are not so hard to incorporate in
a wm as fvwm.

Dominique

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Re: [Alsa-user] can't seem to get ac3 passthrough working with ymfpci

2006-09-28 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2006-09-28 at 15:17 -0400, Brian J. Murrell wrote:
 What is the latest?  I am using
 
 Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.10. 

1.0.12 is the latest stable release, 1.0.13-rc? the latest development
release.

So you use the ymfpci driver?

Clemens, don't you have this hardware?  Should it work?

Lee


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Re: [Alsa-user] alsa-player ?

2006-09-28 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 00:26:57 +0200
Dominique Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Le Thu, 28 Sep 2006 21:47:07 +0200,
 Nigel Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
 
  
   Thanks for the link, but I am not asking for some advanced sound effect,
   but for an audio player with a speed control feature, feature that I can
   incorporate in my menu.
  
   As I said before, it is not so at no one is willing to improve the
   alsaplayer, but at no one is incorporating the fixes send on the
   devel-email list in the code. So my question is the same:
  
   If we will keep this player that have such an unique feature on linux, we
   need a new site for this player, or to incorporate this feature in another
   player. I think at the first solution is easier.
  
   Dominique
  
  Hi Dominique. It is a shame that Alsaplayer isn't being maintained. We are 
  losing too many apps because, either the authors have lost interest, have 
  moved onto other projects, or are just trying to live some sort of life 
  apart 
  from computers.
  
 Myself, I can do a website for the alsaplayer if it is no other solution,
 but I cannot support an email list for it. I can have one more email just for
 it, but it will not be as an email list. It would be better to put it on
 sourceforge or another repository so at it will be open to other peoples.
 
 Another problem is at I am not a programmer. I can apply the debian patches 
 and
 do a tarball. Even do a tarball with the cvs that have a gtk2 interface (that
 doesn't compile on my system), but again. it will be better to have a real
 depository with cvs or svn capability, so at developers can register and 
 submit
 their patches directly.
 
  Myself, I use Mhwaveedit, which does have a speed control. 
  https://gna.org/projects/mhwaveedit/
  
  It's basically an editor, but works well as a player for both .ogg's, 
  and .mp3's. It's a tarball install and needs libsamplerate-devel, and 
  libsndfile-devel to be installed for it to build. For MP3 usage you need to 
  have lame installed. You can also record on it as well, which can be 
  usefull.
  
  It may be worth giving it a try.
  
  Nigel.
  
 Mhwaveedit is a cool editor. But as player the alsaplayer is better, and it
 have an API that is very easy to incorporate in a menu. The alsaplayer have
 also a better speed control as mwaveedit. The smallest change I can have with
 waveedit is 2 %. With the alsaplayer, I can have one comma (around 1%, and I
 have not try less), that is ~ 4 commas in the first half note. And I assure 
 you
 at it does a difference when you are playing guitar or another instrument at 
 the
 same time.
 
 If you want to see how my speed control menu is looking:
 http://home.citycable.ch/monde-meilleur/linux/scrennshoot-grand.png
 And I have a volume control in db, I can load playlists, jump, seek, etc.
 
 man alsaplayer give you the options, and they are not so hard to incorporate 
 in
 a wm as fvwm.
 
 Dominique
 
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I myself used to use alsaplayer a lot, but, to be honest, it pretty
often segfaulted.

So, it's not only security, though both might be related to buffer
overflows.

To me support of alsaplayer seems like too much unpleasant work to an
unrelated person.

By the way, isn't pitch control and speed control in this context the
same ?

You can't play faster than the input stream, because you do not yet know
what's in the stream.

And if you play slower, you need ever growing input buffer.

Because I thought speed control and pitch control were the same in this
context I gave the link to http://sculptor.sourceforge.net/sculptor.shtml .

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